>> Dana: WELCOME BACK VERY
POWERFUL SCENE IN A TEXAS COURT
ROOM.
A MAN HIS BROTHER WAS SHOT TO
DEATH BY DALLAS POLICE OFFICER
FOR GIVING HIS BROTHER'S KILLER
HER.
>> IF YOU TRULY ARE SORRY, I
KNOW I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF.
I FORGIVE YOU.
AND...
I KNOW IF YOU GO TO GOD AND ASK
HIM, HE WILL FORGIVE YOU.
AND I DON'T THINK, AGAIN, I'M
SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, NOT EVEN
FOR MY FAMILY.
BUT I LOVE YOU JUST LIKE ANYONE
ELSE.
AND I'M NOT GOING AS I HOPE YOU
ROT AND DIE, JUST LIKE MY
BROTHER DID.
I PERSONALLY WANT THE BEST FOR
YOU.
AND I WASN'T GOING TO HAVE HER
SAY THIS IN FRONT OF MY FAMILY
OR ANYONE, BUT I DON'T EVEN WANT
YOU TO GO TO JAIL.
I WANT THE BEST FOR YOU.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT BOTHAM WOULD WANT ON THE
BEST WOULD BE TO GIVE YOUR LIFE
TO CHRIST.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING
ELSE.
I THINK GIVING YOUR LIFE TO
CHRIST WOULD BE THE BEST THING
THAT BOTHAM WOULD WANT YOU TO
DO.
AGAIN, I LOVE YOU AS A PERSON.
AND I DON'T WISH ANYTHING BAD ON
YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE
BUT CAN I GIVE HER A HUG,
PLEASE?
>> YES.
>> Dana: THE JUDGE ALSO
HUGGING THE FORMER OFFICER,
AMBER GUYGER, GIVING HER A BIBLE
AFTER SENTENCING HER TO TEN
YEARS BEHIND BARS FOR KILLING A
NEIGHBOR, AN UNARMED BLACK MAN,
AND HIS OWN APARTMENT.
SHE SAID SHE MISTOOK IT FOR HER
APARTMENT AND THOUGHT SHE WAS AN
INTRUDER.
THAT'S BRING IN OUR FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR, THEOLOGIAN AND
ETHICIST.
YOU COULD HELP US THINK ABOUT
THIS.
THE AMOUNT OF POISE AND DIGNITY
FROM THE 18-YEAR-OLD YOUNG MAN
WAS REALLY INCREDIBLE.
>> THE POISE AND DIGNITY CAME
FORTH FROM A HEART THAT HAD
ALREADY GIVEN UP A JUST CAUSE
THAT HE HAD AGAINST THIS POLICE
OFFICER.
LET ME SAY, A JUST CAUSE.
WE MAKE ALL SORTS OF EXCUSES AND
OUR PERSONAL LIVES WHY WE WON'T
FORGIVE SOMEBODY.
IT USUALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE
FACT THAT THE OTHER PERSON DID
SOMETHING WRONG, OBJECTIVELY
WRONG.
BUT FORGIVENESS IS SAYING EVEN
THOUGH I HAVE A JUST CAUSE
AGAINST YOU, I'M GOING TO GIVE
IT UP.
BECAUSE GOD IS THE ONLY ONE
WHO'S PERFECT.
DANA, AS I WAS WALKING INTO THE
STUDIO, A GENTLEMAN IN THE
PARKING LOT -- I'M HERE IN
PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA,
VISITING FAMILY AND A GENTLEMAN
SAID WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
ON TV NOW AND I SAID I'M GOING
TO TALK ABOUT THE STORY OF THIS
GUY WHO FORGAVE THE KILLER OF
HIS BROTHER AND HE SAID THAT'S
WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IN THIS VERY
TENSE POINT IN OUR COUNTRY.
HE SAID DIDN'T JESUS SAY
SOMETHING ABOUT THAT?
THE BIBLE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT
IF YOU DON'T FORGIVE, GOD WON'T
FORGIVE YOU.
JUDGE NOT LEST YOU BE JUDGED.
>> Dana: I REMEMBER HEARING
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONE
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONP
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONI
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONO
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONG
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONV
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONN
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONS
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONI
PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONS
SOMETHING THAT YOU DO FOR
YOURSELF AS WELL.
SO THAT YOU CAN MOVE ON.
HE LOST HIS BROTHER WHO HE LOVED
VERY MUCH.
TALK TO ME ABOUT THE BRAVERY OF
THIS YOUNG MAN WHO SAYS HE WAS
NEVER PLANNING TO SAY THIS IN
FRONT OF HIS FAMILY BUT THAT HE
CHOSE TO SPEAK AND WHEN YOU LIVE
YOUR FAITH AND YOU CHOOSE TO
SPEAK ABOUT IT, IT CAN OFTEN
FEEL A LITTLE SCARY.
>> YEAH, EXACTLY.
TO BRING BOTH OF THOSE POINTS
TOGETHER, DANA, WHETHER YOU DO
IT FOR YOURSELF, FOR SOMEBODY
ELSE.
I THINK THE CONSEQUENCE OF DOING
SOMETHING OUT OF LOVE IS THAT IT
ALSO HELPS YOU.
BUT IT'S LOVE THAT DRIVES THE
DECISION.
IT'S LOVE FOR THE OTHER PERSON.
THE RESULT IS THAT BOTH ARE
WINNERS.
SOMEBODY JUST WROTE TO ME ON
FACEBOOK, WHEN I POSTED THAT I
WAS GOING TO BE ON THIS
AFTERNOON AND SHE SAID MY
BROTHER WAS KILLED IN 2007 AND
I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FORGIVE
UNTIL NOW.
WATCHING THIS YOUNG MAN DO IT.
IT'S IT TIED TO SEE WHO WINS.
FIRST OF ALL, THE WOMAN WHO
RECEIVED FORGIVENESS, THE POLICE
OFFICER.
SECONDLY, THE GUY WHO FORGAVE.
WE KNOW HE'S GOING TO BE IN A
LOT BETTER POSITION RIGHT NOW
AND THIRD, IT'S ALL OF US.
WE ALL WIN.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOT
WINNING AND THE OPPOSITE OF JUST
HOLDING A GRUDGE, ANGER EATS
AWAY AT OUR SOUL.
OUR OWN SOUL AND THE SOUL OF OUR
NATION.
>> Dana: WHAT ABOUT THE FACT
THAT THIS ENTIRE TRIAL -- I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE
TO FOLLOW IT BUT THROUGHOUT YOU
HAD A LOT OF LOVE AND KINDNESS
WITHIN THIS COURT ROOM.
WITH EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDING THE
TERRIBLE SITUATION.
THE LOSS OF A LIFE, MISTAKE THAT
TURNED OUT TO BE SOMETHING SHE'S
GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND TEN YEARS
IN PRISON FOR.
THE BAILIFF WAS KIND.
THE JUDGE GIVES HER A BIBLE.
YOU'VE DONE PRISON MINISTRY IN
YOUR LIFE.
THIS ISN'T TYPICALLY HOW IT GOES
DOWN.
>> IT'S NOT IN THE DIFFERENCE IS
HATRED OR LOVE.
IT'S ANGER OR FORGIVENESS.
I THINK WE APPLY, EACH ONE OF US
IN OUR OWN LIVES AND IT'S NOT
ONLY ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS.
IT'S ACTUALLY FORGIVING WHEN I
HAVE A JUST CAUSE AGAINST
ANOTHER PERSON, FORGIVING WHEN
THERE'S A JUST CAUSE.
I THINK THAT'S THE HEART OF IT
ALL.
>> Dana: IF THAT PERSON ISN'T
SORRY ABOUT SOMETHING, STILL
FORGIVING IS THE WAY TO GO,
RIGHT?
>> JESUS SAID FOR EXAMPLE, HE
WAS BEING CRUCIFIED AND HE SAID