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OSHO International Foundation presents
Osho: Science And The Inner Journey
Excerpt from an interview with the Italian edition of "Science 85 Monthly"
One of the basic problems of science is language.
Science is growing because
we have a clear definition of what we are talking about.
One of the basic problems for scientists,
when they are trying to understand what
the inner journey means,
is to define clearly
for example, what consciousness means.
I give you, like...
Most of the scientist don't
make any difference
between consciousness,
awareness
or conscious mind.
They are using this term in
the same way.
So I would like
to ask you, if it's possible
to have
an understanding about those terms.
Yeah, there is no difficulty.
Words can be defined clearly.
The difficulty is not
because of the words,
the basic difficulty
is coming from somewhere else.
That is,
the scientist, deep down,
does not believe
that there is anything
inner.
He may say so,
he may not say so;
but his whole training,
his whole education,
makes him trust
only objects --
which he can dissect,
which he can observe,
which he can analyze,
which he can
compose,
create,
un-create,
find out their basic
constituents.
His whole mind is object-oriented
and subjectivity is not an object.
So if he wants subjectivity to put before him,
on the table,
that is not possible.
That is not the nature of subjectivity.
So the scientist goes on finding everything
in the world,
except himself.
A great barrier exists,
and the barrier is that there is nothing inner.
When you
cut a stone
into pieces,
what do you find? --
more stone.
You go on cutting smaller pieces,
smaller pieces.
You get to molecules,
you get to atoms,
you get to electrons;
but still
you have not come to anything
inner.
They are all objects.
He would also like
life to be
found in the same way,
and because he cannot find life in the same way,
he starts denying it.
And consciousness is even more
difficult a problem.
Because he cannot
touch it,
dissect it,
find out its constituents,
he simple rejects it --
it does not exist.
So this is his prejudice.
Because of this prejudice
he gets confused.
And this prejudice can disappear
very simply,
if he
hypothetically
accepts --
I'm not saying
he has to believe it,
just hypothetically accepts --
that if there are things outside,
then it is very scientific
that there must be things which are inner,
because in existence,
everything is
polarized by its opposite.
The outer can exist only
if there is an inner.
The unconscious can exist only
if there is consciousness.
This is a simple dialectics of life --
and he knows it --
in existence, everywhere,
he will find the same dialectics.
Everything is opposed by its opposite.
And both are in some
strange way complementary
to each other --
opposing, and still
complementary to each other.
Denying the inner
is a very unscientific attitude.
So first one has to hypothetically accept
that the inner exist.
Secondly, one has to understand
that the methodology
that works for the outer
cannot work for the inner.
Simply because the inner is
the opposite dimension
of the outer,
the same methods
will not be applicable.
You will have to find a new methodology
for the inner.
And that's
what I call meditation:
this is new methodology
for the inner.
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Source: 'The Last Testament, Vol.4 #2' Copyright © Osho International Foundation, Switzerland. OSHO ® is a registered TM.