Moderator (Vedavyasa): Sadhguru
I am a student from science background.
Most of the religions in this world proclaims that
the God has created human beings
but our evolutionary science is saying that human
beings have come from monkeys.
Which one should I believe in?
Sadhguru: What do you feel closer to (Laughter)?
Moderator (Vedavyasa): Being a human I think that
I have evolved from humans (Sadhguru Laughs).
Sadhguru: See..
if you are someone who is on a reverse gear,
then you must choose the first one.
Your religious people telling you, you came from God
because you are going in that direction better not go in the direction of a monkey.
Go back to God.
But if you’re planning to evolve
then better go with Darwin.
Because is there room for evolution for you or you are super evolved already?
I am asking?
Moderator (Vedavyasa): There is a room for evolution.
Sadhguru: There is room for evolution.
If there is room for evolution that means
there is a possibility that you can become a
better man than what you are today.
So if you are going in forward gear go with Darwin,
if you are in reverse gear go with God (Laughter/Applause).
Yes.
Because if you want to go on that path
that needs devotion.
Devotion means…
The word “devotion” comes from the word “dissolution.”
You want to dissolve in to your object of devotion whatever it is.
You want to dissolve into it.
So in a way it is a way of making yourself less and less and less
so that you become nothing literally.
It’s a wonderful way to live.
It is not sounding good when you speak in language that you want to become less and
less.
No.
When you become really nothing,
you become limitless also.
So devotion is one way to go.
But you don’t have that.
Because you’ve gone through little bit of modern education
and you’re beginning to think logically.
Now if you think logically,
naturally you can see life has evolved on this planet
there’s no question about that.
So if you want to go forward
you must see just behind you is the monkey.
One step backward you will be right there.
Better you move forward quickly.
Because some of the scientists are saying today
that the DNA difference between you and a Chimpanzee is only 1.23 percent.
1.23 percent is not much of a difference, isn’t it (Laughter)?
So one point…If you are not happy with 1.23 percent
you must accelerate your evolution
the entire system of Yoga is just this.
How to accelerate your evolution.
In every dimension of who you are, how to hasten your process.
Now that you are talking about evolution.
Whatever Charles Darwin said,
a goat could have become a Giraffe.
It took so many millions of years.
A pig could have become an elephant and it took so many million years.
And a monkey became a man and it happened rather quickly (Laughter) to such a point,
anthropologist are saying that there must be a missing link somewhere.
It happened rather very quickly.
So now if evolution happened,
when you were a monkey you did not desire, “I want to be a human being.”
There is no such desire in you.
Nature just pushed you on.
It’s just life’s longing.
It’s not a conscious thing.
It’s just life’s longing to get better
from an amoeba to here,
just imagine the volume of work that’s been done.
Incredible, isn’t it?.
Whatever amount of time it took from a single-celled creature to a human being,
what a tremendous amount of work being done.
But now you have been rendered in a space where your evolution has to be conscious.
Fifteen thousand years ago…
Over fifteen thousand years ago,
Adiyogi said this
when his seven sages asked…
His seven disciples asked this question,
“How did life happen?
You have heard of the nine avataras?
What are they?
Moderator (Vedavyasa): Matsya, Kurma, Varaha, Vamana, Narasimha, Parashurama, Rama...
Moderator (Vedavyasa): …Krishna, Buddha, Kalki (Cheers/Applause).
Sadhguru: So, Please look at what he is saying.
This is very much in parallel with what Charles Darwin is saying.
First is fish Matsya Avatara, next is amphibious turtle,
then he is skipping all the other small forms and coming to the mammals.
The first mammal we are talking about, a boar or a pig.
the hardest animal to kill is always a boar
because it’s so rooted in the body.
Even today if you behave badly the girls will say “he is like a pig.”
Yes or no (Laughs)?
So something is very crude you say it’s like a pig.
So first animal, mammal is the pig.
What’s next?
Narasimha.
Narasimha means half- man, half-animal.
Next is Vamana means a dwarfed man,
next is Parashurama a full-fledged man but explosive and uncontrolled, volatile..
Next one is Rama.
A peaceful man.
Next one is Krishna a loving man, an exuberant man.
Next one is Buddha who is a meditative man.
Next one is supposed to be a mystical man.
It is not about those individual people.
This is just these people are being used as milestones.
This is the nature of development of life.
In many ways this is running parallel to Darwin’s theory of evolution.
Darwin’s theory of evolution is only hundred-and-fifty-two years old.
Adiyogi spoke about this over fifteen-thousand years ago (Applause).
And then naturally the next question is
“can we evolve further?”
Because you find… you find right now when you want to study for your examination,
you wish you had little more brain.
Hello?
Does it happen or no?
Participants: Yes
Sadhguru: So naturally question “Can I evolve further?”
If a single celled animal can become this much, can I go further?
So Adiyogi said this.
This is…Modern neurologist are saying the very same thing in a different language.
Adiyogi said
“considering the nature of the solar system and the arithmetic.
The way the planet, the moon and the sun, these three are very important.
This is why the entire yogic system is around these three aspects.
These three have significant roles,
unless something fundamental about the solar system changes,
he said your body cannot evolve further.
But you can evolve consciously.
When we say we can evolve consciously,
I can show you or we can take you as an experiment if you are willing.
Moderator (Vedavyasa): Yes
Sadhguru: Hmm?
We can put you on something and show you that your very fundamental genetics will change
within a matter of three to nine months
by doing certain things with your system.
If you know, if you are willing to give yourself to a certain discipline.
Your very genetics can be altered.
Your level of intelligence can be changed.
The way you experience life can be changed.
So he said,
you can evolve consciously
but physically you cannot evolve unless something about the planetary system
changes.
Modern neurologists are saying something very similar..
So if you are going forward choose Darwin,
if you want to go backwards,
backwards is not a bad place.
If you want to go backwards… don’t think backwards is a negative thing.
No.
If you want to dissolve you go towards God.
If you want to evolve, this is one way.
These are two different ways of doing the same thing (Applause).