NEIL: THERE IS THAT. CONNELL WILL UPDATE US ON THE
LATEST.
LATEST. WHO KNOWS THAT BETTER THAN MY
NEXT GUEST, KARL ROVE, DEPUTY
CHIEF OF STAFF.
THE LAST FOUR DEMOCRATIC
NOMINEES STARTED THE BALL
ROLLING, THE RECORD FOR
REPUBLICANS IS MORE SPOTTY.
HOW IMPORTANT WILL IT BE FOR
BERNIE SANDERS TO SECURE THE
WHEN HE APPEARS TO BE BUILDING
TOWARD IN SOME OF THESE POLLS?
>> WITH HAVE A CAUTIONARY NOTE
ABOUT POLLS, WE ARE TALKING
RELATIVELY SMALL SAMPLE SIZES.
HERE’S THE REAL CLEAR POLITICS
AVERAGE.
AVERAGE. IT DOES SHOWS SANDERS AHEAD BUT
LET’S LOOK AT THE RECENT POLLS
IN IOWA.
IN IOWA. MONMOUTH HAD SANDERS 21, BIDEN
23, BUT PLUS OR MINUS IS 4.2 SO
SANDERS COULD BE 25 OR 17 AND
BIDEN COULD BE 27 OR 19, IOWA
STATE, SANDERS AHEAD 24-15,
NEARLY A 5 POINT PLUS OR MINUS,
SANDERS COULD BE A SIZE 29 OR AS
LOW AS 19 AND BIDEN COULD BE A
10 OR 20 AND SO WE HAVE TO BE
CAREFUL ABOUT HARD TO PULL THE
PRIMARY AND THESE ARE RELATIVELY
SMALL SAMPLE SIZES WITH A LOT OF
ROOM FOR ERROR AND THEN YOU HAVE
THE 15% PROBLEM.
IF YOU ARE IN A PRECINCT WHERE
THERE IS AN ALSO-RAN, TOM
STEINER OR AMY KLOBUCHAR OR
ELIZABETH WARREN OR PETE
BUTTIGIEG, THEY HAVE TO PICK A
SECOND CHOICE IN ORDER TO HAVE A
VOICE OR GO HOME AND WE DON’T
KNOW WHERE THOSE PEOPLE ARE OR
HOW THEY PLAY OUT.
IT WILL BE A LONG NIGHT IN MY
OPINION AND WE ARE LIKELY, I
WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE
THREE PEOPLE GET A BUNCH OF
DELEGATES, FOUR CANDIDATES SPLIT
UP THE STATES 41 DELEGATES.
I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE
5 CANDIDATES SHARE THAT 40 ONE
PERSON DELEGATE POOL.
>> YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE POLLS
LARGELY FOR THE DEMOCRATS
CONSISTENTLY UNDERSTATED THE
SUPPORT FOR THE EMERGING WINNER
OF THE STATE, THERE COULD BE
MULTIPLE WINNERS BUT WHATEVER
YOU MAKE OF BERNIE SANDERS’S
CHANCES I’M CURIOUS WHAT YOU
MAKE OF THE GROWING CONCERN
AMONG PARTY HIRE AS, RAHM
EMANUEL THE LATEST IN THE WALL
STREET JOURNAL, TO SAY WE ARE
BLOWING OUR CHANCES RIGHT NOW
WITH A BIG FOCUS ON REALLY BIG
PROGRESSIVE SPENDERS.
PROGRESSIVE SPENDERS. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> THIS IS A SIGN OF TWO THINGS
THE ONE, A SIGN THAT PEOPLE ARE
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT BERNIE IS
REAL, BERNIE HAS BEEN MOVING, IN
IOWA AND NATIONWIDE BERNIE HAS
BEEN MOVING UP IN THE POLLS AND
SECOND OF ALL OF REAL CLEAR THAT
A SELF-PROCLAIMED DEMOCRATIC
SOCIALIST WHO HONEYMOONED IN THE
FORMER SOVIET UNION WHICH WAS
THEN THE SOVIET UNION AND HAD
THIS UNBELIEVABLE ARRAY OF BIG
SPENDING PROGRAMS DIDN’T KNOW
HOW MUCH THEY WOULD COST AND IT
DIDN’T MATTER.
DIDN’T MATTER. A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WORRY THAT
THAT IS THE KIND OF PERSON WHO
IS GOING TO ALIENATE THE
SUBURBANITES WHO VOTED IN 2018
AFTER VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP,
THEY ARE AFRAID HE’S GOING TO
SEND THEM BACK IN THE REPUBLICAN
COLUMN AND I THINK THEY ARE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THIS.
IF THERE IS AN ADVANTAGE DONALD
TRUMP HAS, THE LEFT-WING THE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS THE EASIER
IT IS TO MAKE A DISCIPLINED CASE
TO THE SUBURBANITES WHICH YOU
MIGHT NOT LIKE THE WAY I HANDLE
MYSELF, YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE MY
POLICIES, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE
ECONOMY IS GOOD BUT PREFER NOT
TO VOTE FOR ME BUT TAKE A CLOSE