Saylor's dad does not believe her experience.
And that is a huge problem.
I can feel your skeptic energy when I talk to you,
and I actually get a little nervous telling you.
I'm like, what's he thinking?
Like-- and I can just imagine that's--
I thought you were supposed to know what I'm thinking.
It's exhausting when people are coming at you
from a skeptical perspective, especially
as a young child who's trying to process an unusual experience.
Saying like, I believe your experience.
I'm there with you.
I'm there supporting you, that is what's healing
and that is what is essential for Saylor
so that she doesn't shut down and she doesn't
feel ashamed to moving forward.
I just wish there was a formula behind this
of picking up this energy, and where
this energy is coming from.
And I just worry because I don't want her
to shut down to you because--
Which has already happened.
--I really can't tell you, like,
how hard it can get and how important it is to have
your parents kind of come in and say,
listen, like, we've got this.
I will be here right with you as you go through it.
You know, for me, these abilities
have really started as a curse.
And now they're starting to feel like a gift.
And the only thing that's gotten me here is my mom and dad.
And so I really want to help get to the point
where you can almost let go of trying to figure out why it's
happening and what it is, and just kind
of be with her in one of those moments,
and help her through it.
That would probably mean more to her than anything.
Yeah.
OK.
Are you guys OK to come in here?
Yeah.
OK.
It's definitely cold.
Wow.
I feel multiple.
So let's take a minute and figure it out.
There's a woman here and she's not happy.
Mhm.
I sense a child.
OK.
I feel like the baby was a female.
I feel like she really loved that child.
But she tried to protect her, but failed.
I feel like there is a not nice energy here.
An adult male--
I'm going to say the father.
Do you want to keep moving and see where it is?
I can kind of hear him.
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Oh.
Yeah, I can feel him listening.
Yeah.
You're kind of pulling an energy--
now his attention's on us.
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Stay alert because--
I feel like he's moving.
He feels-- he feels like he can move.
Someone can make him angry like that.
Think he did bad things to them down here.
And what was he doing down here?
Torture.
He was violent.
He enjoyed making people suffer.
I felt someone getting pulled down the stairs at one point.
I imagine a female screaming--
The one upstairs?
Yeah.
There's movement. - Somebody--
All right.
Let's go.
We followed the spirit up the stairs.
Seems like a baby's room.
A nursery?
It just felt she had gone through something traumatic.
I think that her child died young.
On the baby, I got female.
- You did. - I got female.
Well, that would have been Catherine.
The gentleman that you see on the wall
there is Joseph Kingsland III.
He was married to Margaret Stewart.
They had six children.
The child, Katherine, died in infancy.
Yeah.
I'm sure that might have been the feelings that you
were getting of this woman concerned
about the health of her child.
Yeah.
There's a controlling man in the house.
He was doing some bad things.
There was something with the mom, who was suffering.
I think she would have been with that person's connection.
Joseph III then.
He was the head of the household.
He might have been a tough taskmaster.
Yeah.
But he feels tough.
He feels intense.
He feels controlling.
Wow.
Very good.
I honor you guys.
Thank you for your work.
Thank you.
How did it feel watching all of this?
I'm still taking it all in.
But, hearing that, it sort of makes you do a 180 with the way
you were thinking.
With the way you were thinking.
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Hey--
Exactly.
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