- What's going on guys?
I am Banker and today, on Custom Offsets TV
on the YouTube, we are going to discuss
a little something that we get asked a lot
and that is, what really is the difference
between the handling and the driving characteristics
of the nine wides to the 14 wides and everything in between?
So we've got Lawson's king ranch hunk of garbage behind me
and it's the only truck we have around here
that can fit nine wides all the way to 14 wides.
So I'm gonna swap four different sets of wheels and tires
on this damn thing for you and we're gonna drive each one
and see what the difference really is.
So I have a lot to do, let's get into it.
All right, guys.
So we're gonna start on the big end of the spectrum here.
Since Lawson's got these big fat 24 by 14
Arkon Caesars on here.
So remember, keep in mind, all of these different
tire setups or all these different wheel setups
are gonna have different tires
because all we're really focusing on
is going to be the offset of the wheel, the width.
So just keep that in mind, this isn't a tire review.
This is just a width review.
So most important thing, the reason we buy 14 wide
is for the poke, right?
So on the old six, seven power stroke here, we got...
Oh, a solid six inches outside the fender,
highly illegal in most states and we'll see how well
this truck does turn in these bad boys.
All right guys, we're just gonna clear out all the codes
and the engine lights and warnings, get rid of those.
So first thing's first, oh, there we go.
Three quarter turn to the steering wheel
with the 14 wides.
Gotta pay to play, right?
It's a sacrifice we're willing to make,
is our fenders and our tread.
So now obviously the biggest downfall
of having the 14 wides is going to be
the turning radius, right?
You're gonna... unless you're lifted enough to fit 14 wides,
you're gonna have a diminished turning radius
'cause the wheels are so wide
you're gonna start rubbing the fenders,
as is the case with this stock height super duty.
The other thing is,
he just replaced wheel bearings in this
because the added stress of the wider width wheels
will deteriorate things like ball joints
and wheel bearings faster, not immediately, not quickly,
this thing's got 160,000 miles on it.
That's about due for wheel bearings anyway,
it just happened to have wide wheels on it the whole time.
So it's not that it makes them go bad immediately,
it's just, it is going to accelerate it, you know?
And it's the same thing if you have spacers on,
if you have anything where it puts
the weight on the outside of that mounting point.
I mean, as far as driving straight,
there's a lot of contact patch there on the pavement
so it doesn't really wander or anything,
it just kind of rolls in the straight line
like a steam roller.
So there you go, one benefit of having wider wheels,
other than looking cool as (beep).
So I mean, I'd say overall, truck drives great, right?
Just the nuances of driving a wide truck.
So we're gonna go back and swap on some 12 wides
and see if that changes anything.
All right guys, we got the second setup on
and I remembered my sunglasses this time
so I'm not squinting.
These are gonna be 20 by 12 Chrome vision rockers
on this bad boy and for comparison,
the 14 wides we know are what,
six inches outside the fender?
These little bad boys are, oh let's see here,
four and a half?
Call it four and a half inches outside the fender.
So not quite as aggressive, still pretty wide
and if it didn't have such a small tire on it,
I would still expect it to rub
but we're gonna take this thing for a drive
and see how much different this is than the 14 wides.
All right guys, I already cleared out
all the codes this time so we're ready to go
and like I said, this has got tiny little baby tires on it.
So I do know this is gonna clear on this truck
but generally speaking, 12 wides on your average truck,
will have some sort of rubbing,
just due to the width.
You know, like we said, it's four and a half inches
outside the fender.
All right.
So I mean, to be honest,
it's not much of a different feel than the 14 wides were.
You can definitely tell that it's a smaller,
lighter setup 'cause I can turn much easier now.
The truck was definitely working it with the 14 wides
and 35's on here, but 12 wides and 33's,
significantly lighter setup
in a very, very heavy duty truck.
So this kind of setup I would say is
probably the ideal setup for, you know, daily driving,
something you still wanna look cool in.
You know, this thing, you could still
go to a meet on the weekend and not feel out of place
but still drive it to work every day with minimal issue.
Even if you weren't on a super duty, you know,
it's got a little bit of poke to where
unless the laws are extremely strict where you are,
probably won't hassle you too much
'cause it's not too crazy.
Just kind of an average look,
a clean look.
A nice, enough poke to where, you know, it's not crazy.
Still handles decent, not too much stress on the truck.
Still more stress than stock, but not too much
and it rides nice.
As much as you can say for super duty,
as I watch the camera doing this.
Overall, like I said, I think 12 wides is kind of the best
in-between setup for something that looks good, rides good.
Doesn't rub too bad.
So we'll go back, throw the 10 wides on
and I'm gonna apologize now, because it's gonna look like
this thing is on roller blade wheels,
but hey, we gotta work with what we gotta work with.
So we'll throw those on and take that one first thing.
All right guys, we got the 10 wides on here.
These are gonna be some 20 by 10 TIS 553 BM's.
that's black and metal, not the other BM.
So these are gonna be on some 33 12 and a half's
and again, this review has nothing to do with the tires
but you'll notice that because it's a 10 wide
on a 12 and a half, we got some sidewall here
and that's gonna affect our overall width
and that's something you need to take into consideration
when you're getting a narrower wheel like this,
is the tire that you're putting on it
and that's actually gonna, you know
go out further than the wheel.
So even though the wheel may only stick out,
you know, in this case, an inch or two,
the tire's gonna add another inch and a half or so
of width on there and to be exact,
these are three and a half inches outside the fender.
So only an inch less than the 12 wides we just did
but again, it's because it's still
a 12 and a half tire in here.
I mean, if we go down to the wheel,
you're talking only... maybe two, two and a quarter
outside the fender is where the wheel's gonna be.
So you could easily throw a narrower tire on here,
some sort of metric equivalent to be a 33, 11 and a half,
and not be so quite so far outside.
But I know they're small, I know they look tiny
on this truck, this is gonna be more of your 1500 set up
but let's take this thing for a ride
and see how she does with the 10 wides.
All right.
So obviously we got full turning radius.
These are tiny, tiny little wheels.
Just little guys for this F150
or (laughs) F150, F250 today.
She's definitely a little floaty, not terrible.
It's not as cool looking in the mirror.
You know, you got your fender flare
and your tire is kind of all that's there,
especially in the back where the fenders are straight,
not like the front where they dive in.
Definitely gives you the illusion
of a lot more poke on the front
and that's why we measure the front.
The biggest thing I'm noticing
is there's a lot more float to the truck.
I'm actually moving the steering wheel
to try and keep it going
and I think a lot of that has to do with, you know,
just the 12 and a half on a 10 wide.
Like I said, it's pretty standard, right?
You got plenty of protection on the wheel
but it definitely gives you more float
than a straight up side wall,
more of a show style wheel.
I don't know, I've never really been a fan of the 10 wides.
We do sell a lot of them.
It's kind of the keep your truck clean look, to be honest.
You can get a showy designed wheel, a cool looking wheel,
throw a little bit narrower tire on it
and have something a little flashy, but doesn't throw stuff
up the side of the truck like a 12 wide does.
So I think that's why they're more popular.
You know, I think it's one of those things where
once you hit the age of maturity, which is, you know,
like 25 for some people and 65 if you're any of us.
Maybe, we'll see.
But it's more of the businessman's show wheel,
show setup up, cool looking truck.
You can pull up to the office in this and be proud
that you got 10 wides.
Whatever, it's more practical, right?
Sometimes you need to be more practical.
It's a sad, sad day when it happens, when you realize it,
but sometimes it's necessary.
So we got one more setup left and that's nine wides.
I'm not looking too forward to it.
Kinda like the bigger wheel look, but you guys wanna see it
so we're gonna go back to the shop, throw some nine wides
on this bad boy and take her for a ride.
All right guys, we got the final set on here
and this video took so long that I'm not even
wearing my sunglasses anymore
'cause the sun's actually setting
but these are gonna be some 20 by nine
plus zero Anthem Avengers.
Normally these would have a center cap,
but I'm really lazy and I just wanted to keep using
the same supply (indistinct) nuts, and...
Yeah, anyway, ignore that
and then we got it on a 33, 12 and a half.
So you'll notice because it's a 33, 12 and a half
on a nine wide, we've got a ton of sidewall yet again.
So that is gonna, you know, offset the offset (laughs)
of how far the wheel actually sticks out
because the wheel itself is actually
about an inch inside of the fender.
Now with the tire on there, we got a whopping oh...
Inch and three ace roughly, outside with the side leg here.
So way further inside obviously,
makes the truck kind of a little taller, little narrower.
So we'll take this for a ride and see how that goes.
Whee!
Again, as expected,
we got significant amount of turning radius.
Oh my God, I'd barely moved 10 feet and the damn seat-
(beep)
All right, whew, she's definitely floaty,
there's no doubt about that.
There's a lot of tire there and not a lot of air pressure,
probably should have put more air pressure in these tires.
Whoops.
Obviously the steering is...
this is basically a stock setup, let's be honest.
So you know, this is, I always think of this
as like, the farm truck or the work truck,
the construction guy that needs new wheels
because he beat up the old ones too much
and it needed new tires anyway and you got a little bit
of money to spend before the end of the year
'cause you don't have to pay taxes
but you don't want your wheels sticking
way outside the fenders like them kids do.
So you get yourself some nine wides
because they fill out, you know, the wheel well,
they look a little bit better than stock wheels,
you got a little, the littlest bit of poke on the tire
but nothing that's gonna throw stuff
up and down the sides of the truck because let's face it,
you got better things to do
than clean your truck all the time.
So that's my take on nine wides.
It honestly, it really is just like, a stock feeling truck.
It's that thing where you don't want to do
too much to the truck, maybe it's a lease.
Maybe you just don't want to do a whole lot
but make it look a little bit better
'cause I mean, stock wheels just aren't the move.
They're very, very basic.
Especially the newer trucks,
they're trying to make these things look cool
but help fuel efficiency at the same time
and you just look like you have
some Tesla arrow discs on a truck.
So nine wides are a good way to remedy that look
or you got some, an older truck like this
with some beat up crappy looking pitted Chrome wheels
or the anodizing is falling off
and they leak at the bead.
Again, set of nine wides fixes that problem real easy
and it doesn't really change the ride,
it doesn't change the handling of the truck at all.
So if that's what you're looking for,
nine wides are kind of the move.
I mean, you look in the mirrors,
can't even see the tires.
They're under there, doing what they do
just like they would've if it was stock
but at least it's not stock,
and that's the most important thing.
All right guys, so there you have it.
Four different setups, nine wides all the way to 14 wides.
You know, we got our Instagram bad boys over here,
our modestly aggressive 12 wides,
our cool dad 10 wides
and our anything-better-than-stocks nine wides.
So any of these wheels could be perfect for whoever
but like we talked about in the video,
I don't know, the 12 wides just work for me.
It's the width, but not too wide.
You can get a little bit showy
but still be able to drive it.
You know, it's all down to you.
So customoffsets.com,
pick out your set of wheels and tires
and I'll see you on the next one.