Ok so after watching Marvel's Eternals one thing becomes clear. Thanos. Was. Right.
Just in the same way that The Return Of The Jedi was The Empire Strikes Back of The Star
Wars Saga. Marvel's Eternals Is The Avengers Endgame Of The MCU.
(What)
Now what I mean by that is that it brings characters together after a big breakup in
order to save life as we know it.
The movie is also filled with a lot of lore and in it we discover that the life cycle
of a celestial involves planting a seed within a planet so that it can grow along with the
intelligent life there.
Upon it reaching a certain point the Celestial will mature to the point it can go out into
the galaxy and this birthing process will destroy the entire planet that carried it.
In wiping out half of all life in the universe, Thanos somewhat delayed the destruction of
Earth and he no doubt saved countless other planets in the who were doomed to the same
fate.
But did he know?
Well throughout this video we're gonna be discussing the characters comic book origins,
what he does in the MCU and whether we can gather if the character knew about it or not
and if he did, was he actually the true hero.
Probably...probably not but we'll get into it.
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Ok so the first thing I wanna talk about is Thanos' plan as a whole and one of the big
criticisms surrounding it.
When Infinity War first came out many people rightly said that he could've just doubled
resources in the Universe and this would've helped problems like overpopulation without
ending any lives.
However if we look at the Celestials, namely how they emerge from flourishing planets,
then saving lives wouldn't stop them and doubling resources would've sped up their growth instead
of delaying it.
So if Thanos did know then it makes sense that he would've carried out the snap that
was heard around the universe.
Now though Thanos' MCU origin story is a bit murky we can put together bits and pieces
from the comics and films in order to sort of give a rough overview of his early life
that hints towards whether he knew or not.
In the source Thanos was born on Titan and he was the son of the Eternals A'lars and
Sui-San. As we learn in the post credits scene of Eternals his brother was indeed Eros who
is gonna be played by Harry Styles.
Growing up Thanos could see that the planet was going in One Direction due to overpopulation
and he suggested that they carry out genocide and destroy half of all life there in order
to save the other half. He was shunned because of this and banished from the planet but his
prophecy came true and Titan ended up becoming a baron wasteland.
Now the first thing I wanna address is whether Thanos is actually an Eternal or not.
There are several possibilities and the first is that he is indeed one which would make
him a highly advanced machine. The second is that he is the son of an Eternal and though
it's very difficult for Eternals to have kids it's not impossible.
If Thanos is the child of an Eternal then that would make him an Eternal too and this
would mean that he'd also carry the same difficulty in having offspring. Throughout the MCU we
see that he adopts Children instead of having them the old fashioned way so it seems like
he may not have had this knowledge due to his home being destroyed.
This would also explain why he has a brother and though it may just be an adopted one the
other characteristics of Thanos seem to cement that he is indeed an Eternal.
Everytime that Nebula failed he also added more machine parts to her and potentially
this could be because he himself knows first hand that synthetic beings are very powerful.
Either that or I should've stretched before I did all this reaching.
Not only does he have an extremely long lifespan he's also one of the most powerful beings
in the entire galaxy which is why he's able to hold an infinity stone without dying and
perform the snap. Thanos also has strange markings on his skin which in retrospect look
a lot like the glyphs that the eternals have potentially showing that it's all connected.
Now in the comics he carried a deviant gene within him that made him look like he'd fell
out the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. We learn in Eternals that the
Celestials also created the deviants and it is possible that they reused some of the same
genetic programming to create the machines which may have copied across certain elements
so things like this could happen.
I think that the line about Eros and Thanos being related was purposely put in the movie
for a reason and to me it does seem like this was acknowledged to show that he is also an
Eternal.
Now moving on from that if Thanos is an Eternal then it's likely that he either found out
from his father or through his own discoveries exactly what the Celestial's plan was.
In Infinity War there are actually several clues towards this being the case and the
first is the state of Titan itself.
Now one thing that always bugged me when watching Infinity War is that the axis of the planet
was slightly off and that this had caused a shift in it's gravity. If the planet became
overpopulated and everyone starved then that wouldn't change the rotation of Titan and
it would have kept it's original gravity.
Something like this could have only happened if there was a big shift to the planet that
threw it off it's axis...say like the birth of a celestial.
Now it could also be that this was caused by a war on Titan which may have been hinted
at in the opening of Loki but again that doesn't really have much to do with overpopulation.
The other hints towards this comes from the lines of dialogue that Thanos says. Firstly
he states that he's cursed with knowledge. Retroactively this could be used in ermm..fan
theory videos to hammer home the point that he discovered the truth about the Cellestials.
He also said that when his planet was faced with extinction that he offered salvation.
The extinction could come from the birth of a celestial and his plan to kill off half
the population would stop this.
This would also add to why he travelled to other planets with intelligent lifeand wiped
out half the intelligent population there so that this would stop the growth of a celestial.
Celestials need intelligent life in order to flourish and it would make sense why he
would target places like Gamora's home.
Now after carrying out the snap, Thanos retreats to the Garden, which, if he knew about the
Celestial's plan would make the perfect place to relax. As we learn in Avengers Endgame,
it's pretty much abandoned in terms of people and all that there are are animals and crops.
Now this could be because he was wanting to go somewhere that no one would be like 'ey
bro, you killed my bro bro' but it would also mean its planet would be a long way off from
a celestial bursting out of it.
Thanos also destroyed the stone so that the work couldn't be undone and this pretty much
showed that he knew it was the best solution to handle things. Thanos likely worried that
if someone did manage to blip everyone back that it would start the cycle again and thus
he broke them down to atoms.
In Endgame after his past version found out that that the Avengers had taken the stones
back he decided to completely erase all life and this may have been to set everything back
to square one so that it would be millennia before anymore Celestials could possibly emmerge.
Now if they do reveal that Thanos actually knew about everything then I think it's hinting
towards a big Celestial vs Eternal battle that could be coming down the line.
Clearly they are going to keep manipulating the eternals into helping planets to be destroyed
so it makes sense that they would all rebel against them like the ones on Earth. This
would lead to a massive conflict that I think is the direction that things could be heading.
We've seen through the Knowhere head that it is possible for Celestials to die and potentially
we will learn that this may have even been carried out by an Eternal like Eros or Thanos.
Now another potential theory I've seen comes from Mariah Carey over at screen crush who
said that the golden orb we see Eros carrying could have been the one that the Eternals
of Titan used to communicate with. Potentially the prime Eternal there who spoke to Arishem
died and then the rest of the Eternals never found out the truth about the celestials creating
new solar systems upon the destruction of a planet. For all we know Thanos may never
have learned this either and instead he could view the Celestials as parasites that just
take take take without giving anything back.
Ryan also pointed out that in What If Episode 2 that T'Challa managed to change Thanos'
mind with a conversation that could have potentially been about this. As Thanos is all about balance
perhaps T'Challord revealed that the Cellestials create new life upon destroying a planet and
thus he decided to put an end to his plan.
Now in summary there's not anyway to say for certain whether Thanos knew for definite or
not but i think if we look at all the evidence there are some things that Marvel can definitely
use in the future to say that he did. They're great at laying the groundwork for things
and should they need to down the line they can give Thanos' mission more weight by tying
it into stopping the Celestials.
This would explain why Titan is so messed up, why he didn't just double resources and
also why his brother is looking for Eternals rather than being on planets helping the birth
process continue. Though I doubt the studio had this plan laid out when making Infinity
War it actually seems like they are gonna be leaning towards it and I do think that
at some point we will learn that Thanos did actually know about everything which is why
he carried it out.
So if I had to say I would say yes Thanos did know and that we'll be learning more about
this in upcoming films.
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