>>> SO MY NEXT GUEST WON GOLD IN
THE OLYMPICS, AND THEN DID IT
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, 23
TIMES, BECOMING THE MOST
DECORATED OLYMPIAN IN HISTORY.
HE ALSO BECAME A HOUSEHOLD NAME.
MICHAEL PHELPS.
WATCH THIS.
>> ON YOUR MARK.
>> HE'S MADE THE BIGGEST SPLASH
EVER IN THE WORLD OF COMPETITIVE
SWIMMING.
MICHAEL PHELPS' OLYMPIC STATS
ALONE, JAW DROPPING.
>> PHELPS TURNS FOR HOME.
>> AFTER BLOWING EVERYONE ELSE
OUT OF THE WATER AT THE LAST
GAMES IN RIO.
>> MICHAEL PHELPS HAS DONE IT
AGAIN.
>> HE HOLDS 28 MEDALS IN TOTAL,
MORE THAN ANY OTHER OLYMPIAN IN
HISTORY.
23 OF THOSE ARE GOLD.
THREE SILVER.
TWO BRONZE.
THAT MEANS PHELPS ALONE HAS MORE
MEDALS THAN 173 OF THE COUNTRIES
THAT COMPETE IN THE OLYMPICS.
HE IS KNOWN WORLDWIDE FOR HIS
PHYSIQUE, LONG ARMS AND TORSO,
CUSTOM BUILT FOR SWIMMING, HIS
EASY GOING STYLE, AND HIS
BIGGEST CHEERLEADERS, HIS MOM,
HIS WIFE AND HIS BABY SON,
BOOMER.
NOW PHELPS HAS ENTERED A NEW
PHASE IN HIS LIFE.
HE SAYS HE'S RETIRED FROM
COMPETITIVE SWIMMING.
THIS TIME FOR GOOD.
HE'S FOCUSING ON HIS GROWING
FAMILY AND READY TO GET
PERSONAL.
HERE WITH US NOW, MICHAEL
PHELPS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WELCOME.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
LOOK AT THIS.
THAT IS HOW WE ALL FEEL ABOUT
YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE PEOPLE
FEEL.
ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT YOU
PUT INTO YOUR PROFESSION AND THE
REWARDS YOU HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT.
IS THAT TRUE, THAT YOU HAD ONE
MORE VICTORY IN TERMS OF
INDIVIDUAL GOLD MEDALS THAN
LEONITIS, WHO HAD THE TITLE
SINCE 152 BC?
>> SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, SO I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE RUMORS THAT
THE RETIREMENT IS MAYBE
TEMPORARY?
>> SOMEBODY ACTUALLY JOKED WITH
ME THE OTHER DAY.
I SAID SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY,
AND THEY WERE LIKE,BACK?
I SAID, I PROBABLY COULD BUT
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO DO.
>> YOU HAD YOUR SPIKE THE BALL
IN THE END ZONE MOMENT.
>> I HAD RACES THAT STILL GAVE
ME THE ITCH TO COME BACK AFTER
REQUEST
'12.
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FRUSTRATING.
STARTING OFF 2012 WITH NOT MEDAL
MEDALIMEDA
MEDALING, THAT STUCK WITH ME.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I NEVER
HAD A WHAT IF MOMENT.
THAT WAS MY BIGGEST THING.
NOW WITH MY WIFE EXPECTING
NUMBER TWO --
>> BABY NUMBER TWO.
BOMBER OR BOOMERETTE IS ON THEIR
WAY.
>> SO, YEAH, I GOT NOTHING ELSE
LEFT IN THE POOL.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
WE WANT TO DO, AND WE ARE DOING
OUTSIDE OF THE POOL, THAT WE'RE
SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.
WE'RE ENJOIGENJOYING IT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS IS MICHAEL
IS IN A NEW DOCUMENTARY CALLED
"ANGST."
HE OPENS UP ABOUT HIS OWN
STRUGGLES WITH ANGST, WITH
DEPRESSION AND HIS VERY LOW
MOMENTS, EVEN AFTER WINNING
OLYMPIC GOLD.
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>>> WE ARE BACK NOW WITH
OLYMPIAN MICHAEL PHELPS.
OLYMPIAN AND AMERICAN HERO.
I THINK IT IS AWESOME THAT YOU
ARE WILLING TO SHARE A MORE
PERSONAL SIDE OF YOURSELF THAT
IS NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS THIS
WINNING CHAMPION YOU SEE IN THE
POOL.
IT IS A MUCH MORE VULNERABLE
SIDE OF YOU.
YOU'RE COMING OUT AND SPEAKING
OPENLY ABOUT YOUR BATTLES WITH
DEPRESSION AND AANXIETY.
HOW BAD HAS THAT BEEN FOR YOU?
>> I MEAN, I GUESS IT REALLY
STARTED WHEN I CAME OUT AND
TALKED ABOUT THIS IN, I GUESS,
THE LEAD UP TO RIO.
I DID A PIECE ON THE COVER OF
"SI."
I DON'T KNOW WHY I OPENED UP TO
TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I GUESS I WAS
JUST SICK AND TIRED OF JUST
HAVING IT INSIDE OF ME FOR 20
PLUS YEARS.
I WAS READY TO MAKE A CHANGE.
YOU KNOW, FOR ME FOR SO LONG, I
DIDN'T HAVE SELF-LOVE.
I HAD NO SELF-CONFIDENCE.
I DIDN'T LIKE WHO I SAW IN THE
MIRROR.
SO I JUST GOT KIND OF SICK OF
IT.
OBVIOUSLY, I HIT A VERY LOW
POINT IN MY LIFE, WHERE I DIDN'T
WANT TO BE ALIVE ANYMORE.
I DECIDED I WAS GO I THIING TO MAKE A
CHANGE.
>> THIS IS AFTER YOU BECAME AN
OLYMPIC CHAMPION.
>> AFTER FOUR OLYMPICS.
THIS IS AFTER A COUPLE MEDALS.
>> SO THERE MAY BE A LOT OF
PEOPLE OUT THERE WONDERING, HOW
CAN THAT BE?
YOU WERE SO SUCCESSFUL.
>> I MEAN, IT'S -- WE ALL GO
THROUGH THINGS.
WE ALL GO THROUGH THISTRUGGLES,
RIGHT?
EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM GO
THROUGH STRUGGLES IN THE SAME
WAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO REALIZE.
YES, I'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN
WHAT I'VE DONE, BUT IT DOESN'T
MAKE ME SUPER HUMAN.
FOR ME, I WAS VERY GOAL ORIENT
AND HAD PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I
WAS DOING AND WANTED TO BE THE
BEST.
FOR ME, I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT I MEAN, I PUT MY PANTS ON
JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S JUST
SOMETHING THAT EVERY SINGLE
PERSON GOES THROUGH.
FOR ME, I WAS SICK AND TIRED OF
COMPARTMENTALIZING THINGS THAT I
DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
I JUST OPENED UP.
HONESTLY, SINCE THEN, MY LIFE
HAS BECOME EASIER.
I ALWAYS MAKE THE JOKE, I WAS
LIKE, YEAH, I LEARNED TO
COMMUNICATE AT 30.
GREAT.
>> HE'S 32 NOW.
>> BETTER LATE THAN NEVER,
RIGHT?
>> WHAT HAS THE RESPONSE BEEN?
YOU ARE A HERO TO MANY AMERICANS
BUT ESPECIALLY YOUNG KIDS.
HAVE ANY OF THEM SPOKEN TO YOU
ABOUT THAT?
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S -- SOMEBODY I
TRAIN WITH AND WHO LIVES WITH
US, ALISON SCHMIDT, HAS DEALT
WITH DEPRESSION, AS WELL, AND
HAS OPENED UP AND TALKED ABOUT
IT.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
BOTH SHARE WHEN SOMEBODY COMES
UP AND THANKS US FOR TALKING
ABOUT IT.
SHOWING THAT IT IS OKAY TO NOT
BE OKAY.
I THINK WE PROBABLY, HOPEFULLY,
HAVE SAVED SOME LIVES, AND
HOPEFULLY WE CAN SAVE MORE.
WHEN WE DID THE -- OR WHEN I DID
THE DOCUMENTARY, "ANGST," AND
SAT WITH CHARLIE, SITTING THERE
TALKING TO HIM, I MEAN, IT'S
LIKE THE KID IS 10 OR 11 YEARS
OLD.
TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE
THOUGHT ABOUT NOT WANTING TO BE
ALIVE ANYMORE, IT'S SAD.
FOR ME, I'M ABLE NOW TO REALIZE
MY EMOTIONS AND TALK ABOUT MY
EMOTIONS.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
EVERYBODY SHOULD DO, NOT JUST
KIDS BUT EVERYBODY.
WHY AM I ANGRY?
WHY AM I UPSET?
UNDERSTANDING.
>> WE HAVE A CLIP FROM THE
DOCUMENTARY, "ANGST," WHICH
FEATURES MICHAEL.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
>> I FOUND AND SAW THE PEOPLE
WHO CARED ABOUT ME THE MOST
COMING IN TO HELP.
OR WANTING TO COME TO THE HOUSE
OR TO THE ROOM TO BRING FOOD OR
SUPPORT, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE,
OR TO TALK.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE I
REALLY NOTICED THAT IT WAS TIME
FOR ME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS
GOING ON AND ASK FOR HELP.
>> YOU PAID IT FORWARD, TOO.
I KNOW THERE IS AN AUSTRALIAN
SWIMMER, A FAMOUS GUY, ONE OF
YOUR CLOSEST FRIENDS.
YOU'VE HELPED HIM OUT OF HIS
DEPENDENCY, A HALFWAY HOUSE OF
SORTS, YOUR HOME, AND YOU SPOKE
TO TIGER WOODS AFTER HIS PUBLIC
ISSUES.
>> THE BIGGEST THING IS BEING
ABLE TO OPEN UP.
LIKE I SAID, JUST UNDERSTAND
THAT IT IS OKAY TO NOT BE OKAY.
NONE OF US ARE PERFECT IN THIS
WORLD.
NONE OF US ARE.
>> NOT EVEN MICHAEL PHELPS.
>> NO.
HELL NO.
BUT JUST THE LITTLE THINS I'VE
BE
-- THINGS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO
LEARN.
AND JUST TO TALK TO PEOPLE, YOU
FEEL BETTER.
FOR ME, I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT
MENTAL HEALTH IS IN MY LIFE.
I'M FINALLY NOW ABLE TO REALIZE
THAT WORKING OUT IS SOMETHING
THAT MAKES ME A BETTER HUSBAND,
A BETTER FRIEND, A BETTER
FATHER.
IT'S JUST LITTLE THINGS LIKE
THAT THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO
LEARN THROUGH THIS WHOLE
PROCESS, TO MAKE ME BETTER.
MAKE ME STRONGER.
AND IT IS, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING
ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE.
LIKE THAT'S ALL I WANT TO DO.
>> I KNOW THE WATER IS CATHARTIC
FOR YOU, BEING IN THERE.
HE PROBABLY CAN'T GET IN THE
POOL WITHOUT BEING COMPETITIVE.
DO YOU EVER HAVE FRIENDLY SWIMS?
>> WE DO BUT IT ALWAYS HAS TO
END WITH US DIVE AT 50 AGAINST
EACH OTHER.
IT'S OUR COMPETITIVE SIDE.
>> NOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY WORKING
WITH COALGATE TO PROMOTE WATER
CONSERVATION, WHICH IS PERFECT
FOR YOU.
INSTEAD OF PLUNGING INTO THE
WATER AND SWIMMING AS FAST AS WE
CAN, YOU'RE TELLING US TO TURN
OFF THE WATER WHEN WE BRUSH OUR
TEETH.
>> LEAVE THE WATER RUNNING FOR
TWO MINUTES, YOU CAN WASTE UP TO
EIGHT GALLONS A DAY.
ONE PERSON.
THINK HOW MUCH PEOPANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE
U.S.
IT HAS TO CHANGE.
FOR ME NOW, WE'RE BECOMING A
FAMILY OF FOUR, SO WE HAVE
DISHES, LAUNDRY, TOILETS
FLUSHING, WATERING THE YARD,
BRUSHING OUR TEETH, TAKING A
SHOWER.
>> WATER BALLOONS.
YOU'LL FIND THAT OUT SOON.
>> SO A FAMILY OF FOUR CAN WASTE
UP TO 400 GALLONS A DAY.
A DAY.
>> WOW.
>> AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT
DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
HAVE CLEAN DRINKING WATER.
SO IT IS SOMETHING I THINK WE
CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER ON.
REALLY SINCE WE LAUNCHED THE
CAMPAIGN, I'VE HAD PEOPLE STOP
ME, WHETHER AT AN AIRPORT OR ON
THE STREET AND SAY, EVERY TIME I
BRUSH MY TEETH, I THINK OF YOU.
I GUESS THAT'S GOOD.
>> BETTER THAN THE TOILET THING.
IT COULD HAVE GONE A DIFFERENT
WAY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> MICHAEL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> THANK YOU FOR MAKING US FEEL
THE WAY YOU DO AND BEING OPEN
A
AND HONEST.
YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT
MICHAEL'S WATER CONSERVATION
WORK AT TODAY.COM/MEGYNTODAY.
>>> COMING UP, WE'RE TALKING
GRIT.
DO YOU HAVE IT?
AN UNCONVENTIONAL MODEL WHO
This time it's his turn.