>>> SO FROM OUR EARLIER STORY OF
TRAUMA AND SURVIVAL TO THIS ONE.
JENN CARSON WAS A LITTLE GIRL,
OFF ON THE WEST COAST, WITH A
DAD WHO SHE SAYS WAS LOVING,
KIND, AND A GOOD FATHER.
YEARS LATER, SHE WOULD LEARN THE
TRUTH.
THAT HE WAS A SERIAL KILLER.
WATCH.
>> THE FIRST FEW YEARS OF MY
LIFE, MY FATHER WAS HOME WITH
ME.
HE WAS A VERY HANDS-ON,
ATTENTIVE DAD.
HE BRUSHED MY HAIR EVERY
MORNING, HE FED MY BREAKFAST,
TOOK ME TO THE PETTING ZOO, READ
ME STORIES.
THOSE ARE KIND OF MY FIRST
MEMORIES.
VERY LOVING.
VERY AFFECTIONATE.
VERY ATTENTIVE.
AFTER HE STAYED HOME WITH ME FOR
THE FIRST OR SECOND YEAR, MY MOM
WAS WANTING TO TRANSITION INTO
ME DOING DAYCARE AND HIM GOING
BACK TO WORK.
HE WAS SO RESISTANT.
IT WAS AROUND THIS TIME THAT HIS
MENTAL HEALTH WAS JUST REALLY
DETERIORATING.
HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT
VIOLENCE A LOT.
>> Reporter: AT 4 YEARS OLD,
JENN'S PARENTS, JIM AND LYNNE,
DIVORCED AND SHARED CUSTODY.
DURING THIS TIME, JIM MET SUZAN.
>> THEY WERE INSTANTLY TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE A MATCH
AND GASOLINE.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST EXPLODED WHEN
THEY MET.
MY FIRST VISIT TO THEIR HOME WAS
VERY STRANGE.
INSTEAD OF HAVING FURNITURE,
THEY HAD LIKE 100 POTTED TREES
OR PLANTS.
I RECALL THEM BEING PASSED OUT
HIGH, NAKED ON THE ONLY PIECE OF
FURNITURE, THIS IS A WATER BED.
I RECALL THEM NOT FEEDING ME.
TRYING TO FIND FOOD.
I WAS CRYING AND ASKING MY DADDY
TO RUB MY BACK, THE WAY THAT MY
MOM DID BEFORE BED.
I REMEMBER SHE SAID, YOU WANT A
BACK RUB?
I'LL GIVE YOU A BACK RUB.
SHE HAD THESE LONG, JAGGED
NAILS, AND IT SEARED WITH PAIN.
>> Reporter: HER MOM TOOK HER
AND DISAPPEARED.
IN 1983, LYNNE HEARD THE NEWS
THAT JIM, NOW ANSWERING TO THE
NAME MICHAEL BEAR, AND SUZAN WAS
APPREHENDED, AND CONFESSED TO
THREE MURDERS IN CALIFORNIA.
LYNNE HAD TO TELL HER DAUGHTER.
>> SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
GOING TO WALK HOME, AND I NEED
TO TELL YOU SOMETHING IMPORTANT.
OVERNIGHT, I WENT FROM BEING A
9-YEAR-OLD GIRL SCOUT TO BEING A
SERIAL KILLER'S DAUGHTER.
>> JENN CARSON JOINS ME NOW.
THAT MEMORY HAS TO BE SEARED IN
YOUR BRAIN, RIGHT?
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING CHANGED IN
THAT MOMENT.
I WAS 9 YEARS OLD.
I WAS A GIRL SCOUT.
YOU KNOW, I WAS -- LOVED
STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE DOLLS.
IN AN INSTANT, I BECAME THE
DAUGHTER OF A SERIAL KILLER.
YOU KNOW, THE BAD SEED, SATAN'S
SPAWN, ALL THESE THINGS I
INSTANTLY THOUGHT I MUST BE.
IT JUST SCATTERED MY WORLD AND
ENDED MY CHILDHOOD.
>> YOUR LIFE WOULD NEVER BE THE
SAME AGAIN.
>> NEVER AGAIN, NO.
>> I THINK IT IS SO INTERESTING
THAT YOUR MEMORIES OF HIM, A LOT
OF THEM, ARE FOND.
SOUNDS LIKE HE, FOR A LOT OF THE
YEARS, WAS GOOD TO YOU.
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
HE WAS A VERY HANDS-ON, LOVING
DAD.
BRAIDED MY HAIR.
YOU KNOW, HE WAS THE STAY AT
HOME DAD.
FED ME, TOOK ME TO THE PETTING
ZOO.
YOU KNOW, HE WAS JUST VERY
LOVING IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
>> NEVER VIOLENT TOWARD YOU.
>> NEVER VIOLENT TOWARD ME.
>> TOWARD YOUR MOM, YES.
>> YES.
HE REALLY STARTED TO KIND OF
DISINTEGRATE IN THE END OF THEIR
RELATIONSHIP.
THEY WERE TOGETHER FOR ABOUT TEN
YEARS.
IN HIS LATE 20s, HE STARTED TO
JUST BECOME -- START HAVING
DELUSIONS.
HE THOUGHT I WAS A PSYCHIC.
HE WAS ASKING ME ADVICE, AND I'M
A PRESCHOOLER.
HE WAS GETTING AGGRESSIVE AND
VIOLENT WITH MY MOTHER.
THEN HE JUST STARTED TALKING
ABOUT VIOLENCE ALL THE TIME.
HE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE NEEDED A
VIOLENT OVERTHROW OF THE
GOVERNMENT, THAT SORT OF THING.
>> SO JENN EVENTUALLY WENT TO
SEE HER FATHER AFTER 17 YEARS IN
PRISON.
>> YEAH.
>> SAW HIM FOR THE FIRST TIME.
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE DI
>>> BACK WITH JENN CARSON, THE
DAUGHTER OF SERIAL KILLER,
MICHAEL BEAR CARSON, WHO
MURDERED THREE PEOPLE IN THE
EARLY 1980s.
THREE IS THE NUMBER HE WAS
CONVICTED OF.
WHAT DO WE BELIEVE?
DO WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE IT
WAS MORE THAN THAT?
>> YEAH.
HE WAS SUSPECTED FOR A PLOT TO
ATTEMPT TO KILL PRESIDENT
REAGAN.
HE CONFESSED TO THREE HOMICIDES
IN CALIFORNIA WHEN THERE WAS A
MORATORIUM ON THE DEATH PENALTY.
IT WAS KIND OF WHEN THEY WERE
INITIALLY CAUGHT, YOU KNOW, THEY
CONFESSED TO THREE IN
CALIFORNIA.
THEY WERE SUSPECTS IN 12 IN THE
WESTERN UNITED STATES, AS WELL
AS EUROPE.
>> HE AND HIS NEW WIFE.
>> YES.
>> WHO ALSO WENT TO PRISON.
>> MM-HMM.
WE WERE TOGETHER FROM 1978 TO
1983.
I HAVE COLD CASE DETECTIVES AND
INDIVIDUALS CONTACT ME WHO SAY,
I THINK THEY KILLED THIS
INDIVIDUAL.
I'VE HELPED WORK WITH THESE
PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, I SHARED WITH YOU ALSO
THAT MY FATHER, UNEXPECTEDLY,
GOT A PAROLE HEARING IN 2015.
I JOINED WITH THE VICTIMS'
FAMILIES TO FIGHT HIS PAROLE.
I'M GOING TO DO IT AGAIN IN
2020.
>> GOOD FOR YOU.
>> JENN HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL.
SHE'S OFFERED INTERPOL HER DNA,
DOING EVERYTHING IN HER POWER TO
MAKE SURE ALL HIS CRIMES ARE
UNCOVERED, AND HE IS HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.
IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY FOR YOU.
WHAT DO YOU THINK DID IT?
WAS IT HE GOT MARRIED TO THIS
WOMAN WHO WAS CRAZY?
WAS IT DRUGS?
WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM?
>> I DESCRIBE IT AS A TITANIC.
WE KNOW THERE WERE 12 FACTORS
THAT SUNK THE TITANIC, RIGHT?
WITH MY FATHER, HE HAD SOME OF
THE PREDICTORS, PROLONGED EARLY
CHILDHOOD ILLNESS, SO ON.
IT WAS AN UNTREATED MENTAL
ILLNESS.
LONG-TERM USE OF PSYCHEDELIC
DRUGS, LSD.
ALSO, INVOLVEMENT WITH, YOU
KNOW, AN OBSESSIVE, YOU KNOW,
INDIVIDUAL, HIS SECOND WIFE.
ALSO, I BELIEVE THAT HE IS A
PSY
PSYCHOPATH.
1% OF THE POPULATION ARE
PSYCHOPATHS.
SOME OF THEM BECOMES SERIAL
KILLERS.
SOME BECOME POLITICIANS.
>> I SHOULD SAY, FOR THE
RECORD --
>> I TELL IT LIKE IT IS.
>> -- THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY
MEDICAL DIAGNOSES IN EITHER
CASE.
>> SOME BECOME INTERNET TROLLS.
YOU KNOW, 1% OF THE POPULATION
LACKS HUMAN EMPATHY AND THE
ABILITY TO HAVE REMORSE.
I SEE THOSE TRAITS IN MY FATHER.
>> DID YOU SEE THAT WHEN YOU SAW
HIM IN PRISON THAT ONE TIME?
>> YES.
SO I WAS WORKING AS A
SCHOOLTEACHER.
IT WAS MY FIRST YEAR OF
TEACHING.
I HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE I FELL
ASLEEP IN FRONT OF MY CLASSROOM.
THE REASON WAS, I'VE HAD A
LIFE-LONG STRUGGLE WITH
NIGHTMARES.
I HAD COME IN CONTACT WITH
ARTICLES ABOUT MY FATHER'S
MURDERS VERY SOON AFTER I WAS
TOLD.
I COULDN'T READ ALL THE WORDS.
I DIDN'T KNOW A D WORD AND B
WORD.
IT WAS DECAPITATE AND BLUDGEON.
I FIGURED OUT THE OTHER WORDS.
AFTER THE ARTICLES, I STRUGGLED
WITH NIGHTMARES.
I WOULDN'T SLEEP.
HERE I AM.
I'M AN ADULT, A SCHOOLTEACHER,
AND I'M FALLING ASLEEP IN FRONT
OF MY CLASS.
>> YOU DECIDED TO SEE HIM.
>> I SAID, I'M GOING TO CONFRONT
HIM.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO SEEK SOME
CLOSURE HERE.
THE NEXT DAY, I DROVE TO THE
PRISON.
IN MY HEAD, I WAS READY FOR THIS
VISIT WITH GLASS AND A PHONE.
I WAS ALL READY.
I WENT, AND IT WAS OPEN
VISITATION.
THE DOOR OPENED, AND THIS MAN
CAME UP AND HUGGED ME.
I WAS SO JARRED.
THEN I TURNED, AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN, I SAW SOMEONE I
RECOGNIZED.
THIS MAN WAS WINKING AT ME AND
SMILING AT ME, BEING
FLIRTATIOUS.
I WENT, IS THAT ERIC MENENDEZ?
I'M LIKE, WHAT IS HAPPENING?
>> WHAT WEIRD WORLD IS THIS?
>> YOU KNOW.
IT WAS A BIZARRE VISIT.
>> MADE IT ALL ABOUT HIMSELF,
WHICH ISN'T SURPRISING, GIVEN
THE HISTORY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> YOU'VE SPENT YOUR LIFE
HELPING OTHERS.
SHE COUNSELS CHILDREN OF PEOPLE
WHO HAD BEEN CONVICTED OF
CRIMES.
THE MESSAGE IS, THE SINS OF THE