OUR NEXT CANDIDATE IS ONE OF THE
FEW WHO STANDS OUT, BECAUSE HE
IS ONE -- BECAUSE SHE IS ONE OF
THE FEW WHO HAS NEVER HELD
ELECTED OFFICE.
REPUBLICAN CARLY FIORINA SAYS
HER BUSINESS EXPERIENCE, WHICH
INCLUDES TIME AS CEO OF
HEWLETT-PACKARD, HAS GIVEN HER A
EDUCATION FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.
WHAT ON THE MORNING SHE SAT DOWN
WITH US, THE FIRST THOUGHT ON
HER MIND WAS FOOD.
MS. FIORINA: I AM CURRENTLY.
WHAT IS THAT?
JOSH: IT DIDN'T TAKE CARLY
FIORINA LONG TO NOTICE BREAKFAST
ON THE TABLE AT THE AIRPORT
DINER.
CONSIDERING IN HER FAMILY, MANY
OF THE TRADITIONS CENTER AROUND
FOOD.
MS. FIORINA: I LIKE TO COOK.
I LIKE TO HAVE BIG DINNERS, BIG
BREAKFASTS, AND I LOVE HAVING
DINNER PARTIES, WHETHER THAT
MEANS PIZZA IN THE KITCHEN OR BY
THE POOL OR A BIG DINNER PARTY
FOR A PULLOUT MY MOTHER'S CHINA,
THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO DO.
LIKE TOGETHER AND EAT.
NOW MAYBE THAT IS PRETTY TYPICAL
FOR ITALIANS, I DON'T KNOW.
[LAUGHTER]
JOSH: LATELY THOUGH, SHE SAYS
LIFE HAS BEEN A BIT DIFFERENT
WHEN IT COMES TO CHOOSING THE
FOOD THAT SHE AND HER HUSBAND
EAT.
MS. FIORINA: MY HUSBAND IS A
DIABETIC.
ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, HE
DECIDES, MUCH TO MY GREAT
DELIGHT, THAT HE IS SWEARING OFF
SUGAR.
MUCH TO MY GREAT DELIGHT.
HE LOVES SWEETS.
IN SOLIDARITY, TO KEEP THEM
GOING, I SAID I WOULD, TOO.
I KNEW THAT COMPETITION WOULD BE
BETTER THAN MY NAGGING.
SO ANYWAY, HE STUCK TO IT AND I
STUCK TO IT, BUT IT MEANS I CAN
HAVE THIS.
JOSH: BUT SHE DOESN'T LET THAT
GET HER DOWN ON THE LONG
CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
THAT CAN AFFECT EVERY CANDIDATE
NOW AND THEN.
INSTEAD, THE FORMER CEO OF
HEWLETT-PACKARD SAYS SHE THRIVES
ON ENGAGING VOTERS IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE.
MS. FIORINA: THE MOST FUN IS
TALKING TO VOTERS.
I MEAN, IT REALLY IS.
I MEAN, THIS IS FUN.
JOSH: ALTHOUGH, SHE DOES NEED
TIME TO HERSELF.
MS. FIORINA: I HAVE TO START
TIME IN THE MORNING BEING QUIET
AND CONDUCT TEMPLATE OF Q --UIET
-- QUIET AND CONTEMPLATIVE, AND
I END THE DAY THE SAME WAY.
IT IS A BUSY, NOISY DAY.
I TALK WITH MY HUSBAND.
JOSH: HER HUSBAND, WHO SHE MET
WHILE WORKING AT AT&T.
MS. FIORINA: I KEPT THINKING,
WOW, IN THIS FAST COMPANY AT
AT&T, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING TO
SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
AND I KEPT ASKING PEOPLE.
AND EVENTUALLY, SOME BUT HE
SAID, YOU NEED TO GO SEE THIS
GUY, FRANK FIORINA, BECAUSE HE
IS A TECHNICAL EXPERT AND HE
WORKS AT L LABS AND HE IS AN
INTERESTING EXPERT AND HE WORKS
ON INTERESTING TECHNOLOGY AND
MAYBE HE CAN HELP YOU WITH YOUR
PROBLEMS.
SO I WENT TO GO SEE HIM.
I MEAN, HE WAS REALLY CUTE, I
WOULD HAVE TO SAY, AND I WAS
MORE FOCUSED AND THE FACT AT
THAT TIME THAT HE TOOK ME
SERIOUSLY AND WE ACTUALLY DID
SOLVE THE CUSTOMER'S PROBLEM AND
THE REST IS HISTORY.
[LAUGHTER]
JOSH: AND THAT HISTORY INCLUDES
A MARRIAGE PROPOSAL THAT SHE
SAYS MAYBE UNCONVENTIONAL, BUT
CERTAINLY PERFECT.
MS. FIORINA: HE HAD TWO LITTLE
GIRLS, TRACY AND LAURIE.
LAURIE HAD HELPED HIM PICK OUT
THE ENGAGEMENT RING, THE WEDDING
SET.
AND HE HAD PLANNED -- I LEARNED
ALL OF THIS AFTER THE FACT --
THAT HE HAD PLANNED SOMETHING A
LITTLE MORE TRADITIONALLY
ROMANTIC.
BUT SHE WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT
THIS THAT WE WERE SITTING IN THE
CAR IN HIS MOTHER'S DRIVEWAY, MY
FUTURE MOTHER-IN-LAW, AND LAURIE
WAS IN THE BACKSEAT, AND WE SORT
OF PULL UP FOR THE HOLIDAY, WE
WERE THERE FOR EASTER HOLIDAY,
AND SHE IS BOUNCING UP AND DOWN
IN THE BACKSEAT WITH GREAT
EXCITEMENT.
AND I SAID, WHAT IS WRONG WITH
YOU?
AND SHE SAID, DADDY, DADDY, ARE
YOU GOING TO ASK?
AND THAT WAS KIND OF OUT OF THE
BAG.
[LAUGHTER]
JOSH: WHILE THAT WAS A SPECIAL
MEMORY AND A JOYOUS TIME, HER
EXPERIENCES HAVE NOT ALWAYS BEEN
FILLED WITH HAPPINESS.
FIORINA TALKS ABOUT THE PAIN
THAT SHE AND HER FAMILY HAS
ENDURED WHILE SHE HAD BEEN
RUNNING FOR SENATE IN
CALIFORNIA.
MS. FIORINA: I HAD JUST FINISHED
A LONG BATTLE WITH CANCER, A
HARD BATTLE, AND I WASN'T WELL.
I DIDN'T THINK IT AT THE TIME,
BUT I HADN'T FULLY RECOVERED AND
I ENDED UP IN THE HOSPITAL TWO
WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION.
THAT WAS INTERESTING.
I ALSO LOOKED VERY DIFFERENT.
I STARTED OUT BALD, LITERALLY.
WE HAD RECENTLY BURIED LAURIE.
SHE HAD STRUGGLED WITH
ADDICTIONS AS SOME HE PEOPLE IN
NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTRY DO.
SO I WAS OF A DIFFERENT PLACE,
PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY -- I
WAS IN A DIFFERENT PLACE,
PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY.
JOSH: AND SHE SAYS THOSE
EXPERIENCES GAVE HER PERSPECTIVE
ABOUT WHAT LIFE IS REALLY ABOUT,
POLITICIAN OR NOT.
MS. FIORINA: LIFE ISN'T MEASURED
IN TIME.
WE HAVE AS MUCH TIME AS WE HAVE.
THAT IS NOT HOW LIFE IS
MEASURED.
I THINK LIFE IS MEASURED IN
LOVE, IN MOMENTS OF GRACE, WHICH
I PRAY FOR EVERY DAY, AND IN
POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION.
JOSH: A CHALLENGE TO MAYBE ONE
DAY RUN FOR PRESIDENT, ALTHOUGH
WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG, SHE NEVER
DREAMED OF IT.
MS. FIORINA: SEVERAL LITTLE
GIRLS HAVE COME UP TO ME AND
SAID, "YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO BE
THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT, BUT
IT IS OK IF YOU GO FIRST."
[LAUGHTER]
MS. FIORINA: AND I THINK MYSELF,
WOW, THAT IS IMPRESSIVE.
I DIDN'T HAVE AMBITION LIKE
THAT.
ACTUALLY, I LOVE THE KID.
I REVERT VERY EXPLICITLY KNOWING
THAT BEING A KID WAS VERY GREAT
AND THAT I SHOULD SAVOR IT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO GROW UP.
I HAD A KIND OF PETER PAN
COMPLEX.
JOSH: SHE GREW UP, OF COURSE,
BUT AS CARLY --
MS. FIORINA: MY OLDER SISTER IS
NAMED AFTER ONE GRANDMOTHER,
CLARA HALL, AND I AM A
GRANDMOTHER, CARA CARLETON.
MY MOTHER THOUGHT IT RHYMED TO
MUCH, CARA AND CLARA, SO I WAS
GOING TO GO BY CARLTON.
MY SISTER COULD GO BY HALL, SO I
JUST WENT OVER TO CARLY.
IT HAD GOTTEN AWKWARD OF CERTAIN
POINT BECAUSE I WAS GETTING SENT
IN FOR PHYSICALS FOR BOYS, I GOT
A DRAFT NOTICE, LITERALLY, AND
SO MY MOTHER HAD ALWAYS CALLED
ME CARLY IS A NICKNAME.
WHEN SHE WAS MAD AT ME, SHE
CALLED ME CARLETON, AND WHEN SHE
WASN'T MAD AT ME, SHE CALLED ME
CARLY.
SO I KIND OF WENT JUST -- JUST
WENT OVER TO CARLY.
JOSH: AND SHE HAS NEVER TURNED
BACK, KEEPING ONE VERY IMPORTANT
MESSAGE IN MIND.