it's achieved things already we've doubled the network pay that our pay offer we've stopped
mass redundancies across the railways and we've woken up our members to the issues and they are
heeding the call for the strikes and we seem to have sparked something in society about
the way that people are treated at work and the cost of living crisis so it's achieving a lot
what we need to achieve is a deal for our members that's what my job is to get them a negotiated
settlement with their employers and that's what we're seeking to do if we hadn't taken this action
we would have suffered a massive defeat already so it is achieving things every day
and what we've got to do is fulfill the promise that we make to our members to get a square deal
for them in their workplace well we don't have a fixed program i haven't got a whiteboard saying it
starts on this day and it ends on that day it's a process we're involved in a process
with all the employers 14 train operating companies and network rail
that's 45 000 people in our union and there's of course we've got underground strikes tomorrow
that's another 11 000 people in our union so we've got a tough job because the government
is dictating four billion pounds worth of worth of uh funding cuts on the railway so there's a
big gap to bridge but we're determined to do that there is always a settlement available
if the government changes its stance if grant chaps loosens the shackles on these companies
we can get a deal very quickly and we can get the railways back to normal well we won't be
broken we are determined to get a settlement our people have shown on the picket lines that are
determined to dig in we're not going to waste our members efforts we're a professional union
we're a considerate union and we will take the action that our members want to take as we go
along so we're not going to be broken we will continue the fight until we get a settlement well
the problem with the railways is it's fractured anyway we've seen when we've not been on strike in
the last two weeks that the railway has collapsed virtually in some days we had people locked in
a station the other night who couldn't even get home with trains two and three hours late because
of problems so there are severe problems on the railways that are nothing to do with these strikes
the railway's got to change we believe it should come up back into public ownership so we could
run a railway on behalf of the people on behalf of the economy and on behalf of the environment
if we do that we could get a proper railway of a square deal for the passengers the square deal for
the taxpayers and a square deal for the workers on the system well grant chapter is getting more and
more hysterical i try to keep a calm temperament in everything that i say i'm not angry about this
i'm determined to get a deal grant shap seems very desperate what i think you're seeing is
a man who's worried about his future he's got to try and flex his right wing muscles
in front of a parade of two really right-wing people that are going to be his boss
if he has a job in the next week or two so i don't know what grants that chaps is up to
i don't think the employers really know what he's up to and i don't think that officials at
the department for transport knows what he's up to last week he threatened to make everyone redundant
on the railway by issuing letters called section 188 letters he put that in the daily mail at the
weekend three weeks ago he said that all overtime on the railway was going to be banned and he was
going to ban it all of which is outside of his control by the way because he says he's
not involved i think he's lost the plot slightly and he needs to get back on track and enable a
settlement to this dispute well sadiq khan's got some massive problems because he's been put under
the under the cosh by a right-wing government and by the people at the treasury they're holding
him to ransom unfortunately what sadiq khan is doing he's offering our members pension schemes
and our mentors members jobs and their terms and conditions as a sacrifice to the treasury
to get funding he needs to get into a coalition with the workers and campaign against those cuts
and we're determined to put him under manners as well as uh
chaps and the treasury we will take on anyone that tries to attack our people
and we will get a deal for our people that stands up to the test of time well i don't know if we'll
get a general strike it's not in my power that's up to the tuc and it's a question of whether it's
legal and all the rest of it what you are going to get is a wave of solidarity action generalized
strike action synchronized action and you'll see it in every sector of the economy in education
in health wider parts of the transport system in all sorts of sectors the private sector as
well because people are fed up with the way they're being treated the british worker is
basically underpaid and it gets no dignity or respect in the workplace we've got to change that
so we get a square deal for everyone in britain and that's what the unions are determined to do
and if that needs everybody showing solidarity and taking action that's what needs to be done