Hi.
Hello, my pretty friend.
Good to see you.
It's good to see you.
My buddy.
I will say, I know this is kind of the first thing you've
done in a little while.
Your mom passed away a month ago.
And I'm sorry that you--
for your loss.
Thanks, Ellen.
How are you doing?
I'm doing OK.
I basically haven't left the house
until I'm sitting on national television on your show.
Well, you look--
So I thought that was a great plan.
It is.
You sit at home and rest up.
And you look beautiful.
And you've been doing--
Well, I Marie Kondo'd the entire house.
What does that mean?
It's the-- oh, the woman that--
You know, the woman who does the Magic of Tidying Up.
She wrote that book.
Yes, yes.
And she has a show called Tidying Up--
Yes.
We had her on the show.
But I didn't know what that meant.
So you--
So I Marie Kondo'd the entire house, every closet,
every drawer, everything.
And we threw out minimum 200 pounds.
I mean, minimum 200 pounds of stuff.
Still looks exactly the same.
That's a lot of stuff.
I know.
See, I move a lot.
So it's easy for me to get rid of stuff
because I really don't like a lot of stuff.
I try to keep it minimum, also.
So is it the thing where you hold things and does
it give you joy?
Sparking joy.
Right.
Yeah.
So I found this--
I found something in my cleaning out that was a little pin that
says Blue Velvet on it-- because I was in the movie Blue Velvet,
but I got cut out of it--
and with a little note that said,
thanks for your hard work, love, David Lynch.
Oh, wow.
That's pretty cool, right?
Yeah, very cool.
You got cut out.
What did you do in it?
Well, I was at the beginning of the movie, which
the whole beginning got cut.
But I was Kyle MacLachlan's kind of not very nice girlfriend
in college.
And I actually had-- it's in the--
it came out in the DVD extras a couple of years ago.
I have a whole scene where I not just make out,
but it's like a French kissing expo.
It's like the most intense make outage imaginable.
Is that the place where you're making out with him?
Yeah, but when you see it in real life,
it's just a lot of like, mwah, mwah, mwah.
And the craziest part is that was
one of the first things I ever did on film.
It was like, one of my first jobs.
I don't remember doing that.
And I never kissed anybody on film.
And you'd think I remember.
Yeah, you would, especially the mwah, mwah mwah.
It was, you know, in the '80s they
used to do different kissing.
It used to be like full, like crazy next level Frenching.
And now, it's like they've pulled it back.
But there was a period in the '80s where they really
went to town.
Yeah, no, I know.
Because before-- it's going full cycle I guess because before,
like in the movies in the '50s, they were just like--
when they kissed, it was just closed mouth, you know, mmm.
Not mwah, mwah.
Mm, mm, like that, right?
It was just tight-lipped kissing.
Yeah.
And then now you have to watch The Bachelor franchise to get
the full French experience.
Yeah.
You hear the saliva on The Bachelor.
You actually-- you can hear the saliva moving around.
Nick and I watch the whole Bachelor franchise.
And every single time, without fail, that any two people are
kissing he goes, oh god!
Like he can't handle it.
Well, then why does he watch?
That's what the whole show is.
I know.
It's just making out.
I think he secretly might be into it.
Clearly.
All right.
Let's talk about Will and Grace.
So now your character thinks she's a lesbian.
Is that-- you're seeing a woman.
Samira Wiley plays a character and she's amazing.
Right.
Love her.
[APPLAUSE]
The episode that's airing tonight
is actually-- there's an homage to the famous episode
of your sitcom where you came out.
I heard.
Yeah.
I heard.
That's really cool.
And I wanted to say that-- and I've said this
in a lot of other interviews.
But I've never, I don't think I've ever actually said it
to you, the person who matters the most, which
is that your show really laid the groundwork for Will
and Grace.
I don't know if there would have been
a Will and Grace had you not done that show and come out.
So thank you for that.
[APPLAUSE]
Thank you for my career.