MAKING THESE WEAPONS. IS A
GHOST GUN. THERE'S NO RECORD
OF IT.
>> IT TOOK NO BACKGROUND CHECK
AND WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY
LIKE IT ARE ON OUR STREETS
TODAY. BECAUSE IT'S BUILT FROM
A PERFECTLY LEGAL PRE PACKAGED
KIT AND THEN MADE INTO A
WORKING FIREARM ANY AMOUNT OF
TIME IT TAKES TO BUILD AN IKEA
CABINET JUST OVER AN HOUR.
THERE WAS A BLACK MARKET.
>> GHOST GUN SALE THAT WENT
BAD AND TURNED DEADLY. 16
YEAR-OLD STUDENT GUNNED DOWN 2
CLASSMATES LAW ENFORCEMENT
TELL NBC NEWS THE WEAPON MAY
HAVE BEEN A GHOST GUN, FIREARM
AND EVIDENCE IS DESCRIBED AS
AN 80% ARE.
>> A GHOST GUN LAST YEAR. THE
LAPD RECOVERING MORE THAN
DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF GHOST
GUNS COMPARED TO THE YEAR
BEFORE IN THE WEAPONS USED IN
AT LEAST 24 HOMICIDES IN THE
CITY IN PHILADELPHIA. THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT RECOVERED
571 CONSTRUCTED GHOST GUNS
MORE THAN 5 TIMES THE NUMBER
IN 2019. BUT JUST HOW EASY IS
IT TO ORDER THE PARTS FOR
THESE GUNS.
>> THIS IS OUR NBC PRODUCER
JASON, WHO LIVES HERE IN
PENNSYLVANIA THERE ARE A
LITANY OF OPTIONS TO COME UP
OF WHERE YOU COULD PURCHASE
THESE KITS. BILL.
>> BUT WITH THE TOOLS.
>> WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE
EVERYTHING AND TELLS YOU THE
EXACT PART TO LITERALLY NEED
TO BUY. THIS IS WHERE US JUST
WILL HARM.
>> DON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PURCHASE. JASON WAS ABLE TO
PLACE HIS ORDER BECAUSE HE
LIVES IN ONE OF THE 40 STATES
THAT HE'S NOT REGULATED THE
SELLING OF THESE KITS AND
THAT'S ALSO WHY WE WERE ABLE
TO WALK INTO THIS GUN SHOW
OUTSIDE OF PHILADELPHIA. WE
WENT IN WITH A HIDDEN CAMERA
TO SHOW JUST HOW EASY IT IS TO
BUY A KIT.
>> AND YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING
FROM A GREAT MONEY, BUT NO ID
OR ANYTHING. WE'RE NOT GOING
BACK IT.
>> I'LL JUST NEED TO
ESSENTIALLY THE DRILL WITH THE
JOB THAT COMES WITH THE DRILL
BITS IN AND THEN I SAID YOU
JUST THAT THE SITE THE STATUS
THERE'S TONS AND TONS VIDEOS
IS USUALLY TAKE IT. FIRST.
KNOW. MEAN.
>> I PASSED. I WAS LIKE 21
MINUTE 24 MINUTES. TO BUY
OTHER FIREARMS AT THIS SHOW.
THEY REQUIRED BACKGROUND
CHECKS. BUT TO GET THIS GET IT
JUST TOOK THAT CASH. HAVE YOU
SEEN THE DEMAND FOR YOUR
SUPPLY GOING UP. YEAH. THE
ENTIRE INDUSTRY HAS GONE UP.
WE TRACKED DOWN JORDAN R-OH
THE MAJOR GHOST GUN KIT
SUPPLIER IN PENNSYLVANIA AS WE
LEFT THE SHOW. DON'T YOU BEAR
SOME RESPONSIBILITY THEN WHEN
THESE GUNS GET IN THE HANDS OF
CRIMINALS KNOW BECAUSE I'M NOT
A CRIMINAL, BUT YOU'RE
ESSENTIALLY HANDING THEM A
PIECE THAT THEY CAN BUILD AND
A HALF AN HOUR AND TURN IT
INTO A GOT. KEYS AND PACK OF
BUDWEISER AND DRUNK DRIVERS
KILL SOMEBODY TOO.
>> LAST YEAR. THE MAN WHO RAN
PENNSYLVANIA'S MAJOR GUN SHOWS
AGREED TO NO LONGER ALLOW THE
SALE OF THESE KIDS. BUT WHEN
MET WITH PUSHBACK BY THEN RO
AND OTHERS. HE SOLD THE GUN
SHOWS FOLLOW TO THEN ROWE WHO
WENT RIGHT BACK TO SELLING
THEM. YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE
LAWS RIGHT NOW. YEAH. 100%
HANDING OVER THOSE KIDS JUST
FOR CASH. THAT IS BY THE
BOOKS.
>> YEAH. IT'S LIKE BUYING A
LAWN CHAIR AT WALMART. MY LAWN
CHAIR IN CASH. PLUS THESE KITS
AND THE GUNS THEY TURN INTO
ARE HARDER TO TRACK BECAUSE
MOST DON'T HAVE SERIAL NUMBERS
BECAUSE OF THESE LEGAL
LOOPHOLES, MANY OF THEM ACROSS
THE COUNTRY FROM SHOWS AND
ONLINE SALES.
>> OUR BUT BY FORMER CONVICTS
WHO ARE BY LAW BARRED FROM
OWNING THESE WEAPONS AS JUST
ONE EXAMPLE, THERE WERE 586
SUCH CONVICTS ARRESTED WITH
GHOST GUNS IN LOS ANGELES JUST
LAST YEAR. THIS IS THE
BEGINNING. AGO, SCOTT, THIS
REALITY HAS LED MANY TO CALL
FOR A CHANGE IN THE LAST
PENNSYLVANIA ATTORNEY GENERAL
JOSH SHAPIRO HAS TRIED TO
CLASSIFY THESE GHOST GUN KITS
AS FIREARMS THAT WOULD FORCE
PEOPLE TO PASS A BACKGROUND
CHECK TO GET THEM. DO YOU EVEN
BEGIN TO KNOW HOW MANY ARE OUT
ON THE STREETS.
>> I THINK IT'S ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW AT THIS
POINT. WE NEED A NATIONAL
ANSWER. BUT THERE IS NO SIGN
OF LEGISLATION PASSING ON
CAPITOL HILL.
>> THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
IS, HOWEVER, WORKING ON
FORMALIZING NEW REGULATIONS TO
HELP CURB THE RISE OF GHOST
GUN SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE A
REGULAR FIREARM. 2 WEEKS LATER
WE RETURNED TO PENNSYLVANIA
AND MET UP WITH SPECIAL AGENTS
FROM THE A G S OFFICE WHO
AGREED TO USE THE KIT WE
PURCHASE FROM THE SHOW AND
BUILD IT INTO A GHOST GUN. BUT
WE ALSO COULD HAVE DONE IT
OURSELVES IF YOU JUST GO TO
YOUTUBE VIDEOS OUT TOO.
>> WE ARE STILL ALL OVER THE
INTERNET. WE WON'T SHOW YOU
ALL THE STEPS. BUT FOR THE
AGENTS, IT JUST TOOK SOME
DRILLING STANDING DOWN AND A
LITTLE BIT OF HAMMERING. A FIRE. JUST OVER ONE HOUR
FIRE. JUST OVER ONE HOUR
LATER, WE'RE READY TO GO.
>> WOW. VAN YOU'RE HERE WITH
ME IN THE STUDIO. I I'M
SHOCKED BY SO MANY THINGS YOU
SHOWED US THERE. THE YOUTUBE
VIDEOS THAT YOU MENTIONED OVER
AND OVER AGAIN AS ONE OF THE
ONE OF ONE OF THE PEOPLE SAID
TO YOU, THERE'S TONS AND TONS
OF THE GUY IN THE GUN SHOW
SAID TONS AND TONS OF VIDEOS.
>> WHY IS YOUTUBE NOT DOING
SOMETHING THEY'VE SAID THAT
THEY WOULD TRY TO PULL SOME OF
THOSE VIDEOS DOWN THERE STILL
HAVE THIS HAS BEEN A
PERSISTENT PROBLEM THAT WE
FILL IN SOME OF THIS A COUPLE
WEEKS AGO AND OF THE 3 VIDEOS
THAT WE ACTUALLY USED IN THIS
PIECE. ONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN
REMOVED BY U 2, BUT 2 OTHERS
WERE NOT REMOVED UNTIL TODAY
WHEN WE FLAGGED THEM TO YOU TO
NOW. YOUTUBE SPOKESMAN TELLS
US, QUOTE, OUR FIREARMS POLICY
PROHIBITS CONTENT INTENDED TO
INSTRUCT VIEWERS ON HOW TO
MAKE FIREARMS, INCLUDING GHOST
GUNS. THEY SAY THEY'RE WORKING
ON THE TECHNOLOGY TO BETTER
DETECT AND THEN TAKE DOWN
VIDEOS. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME
TALK AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK THAT
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION MIGHT
CHANGE SOME OF THE RULES THAT
THE ATF FOLLOWS REGARDING
THESE GUNS. IS THAT HAPPENING?
THIS IS THE BIG DEVELOPMENT
THAT WE SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE
HERE IN THE HEAD AND A LOT OF
FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR
BETTER GUN REGULATIONS AROUND
THE GHOST GUNS ARE EAGER FOR
THIS TO COME TO FRUITION HERE.
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
DIDN'T DO IT. BUT THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION HAS PROPOSED A
RULE.
>> WHICH WOULD ESSENTIALLY
CLASSIFY THESE KITS IS
FIREARMS BEFORE THEY'RE EVER
INSTRUCTED. THE RULE SAYS THE
FIRE WOULD, QUOTE, INCLUDE A
WEAPON PARTS KIT THAT IS
DESIGNED TO EXPEL A PROJECTILE
BY THE ACTION OF AN EXPLOSIVE.
NOW THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT
WHEN THIS RULE WHERE TO GO IN
EFFECT HOW TO IMPACT A GHOST
GUN INDUSTRY. WE DID REACH OUT
TO THE MANUFACTURE OF THAT KIT
THAT WE BOUGHT BUT HAVE NOT
HEARD BACK AT THIS HOUR CASE.
EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID
BASICALLY MEANS IT'S
CONSIDERED MORE OF A FIREARM.
THE CORRECT MORE OF A FIREARM
WHICH AGAIN, JUST ONLY 10
STATES HAVE ACTUALLY PASSED
LEGISLATION TO THAT EFFECT
HERE AT THIS POINT ON
FASCINATING. THANK YOU FOR
PROVIDING THAT. THANK YOU FOR