(eerie music)
- Come on.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa! - Let's go, let's go!
- Hey, hey! - Let's go!
- Stop right there, stop right there!
- [Narrarator] Welcome to First Person Defender, where
regular people come face to face with unknown attackers.
- Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa!
(yelling)
Drop the gun! Drop the gun!
(intense music)
- [Narrator] And fight their way out.
This is First Person Defender.
You guys have asked for this scenario.
A hostage situation, you can make it on the range,
but can you make it that shot, when it counts.
- [Narrator] This force on force training
uses real firearms converted to fire marking cartridges.
- Some of the training I've had is mostly
from the Military, qualifications with rifle and handguns.
- As far as people with Military training,
it's really hit or miss,
you just never know what you're gonna do.
There are people that did their four,
and you don't know what they did.
Military training does do some things for you,
it does heighten your sense awareness,
it can make you a little more aggressive.
Just like people who play sports.
- I hope today I'll just be able to gain some
more tools for the tool box because
you never know what's gonna happen tomorrow.
- At this point, I really don't know what to make of Bill.
You got a family to protect, but he's real soft spoken,
and that either goes one of two ways,
he's either gonna be a mouse,
or a wolf in sheep's clothing.
- [Narrator] A walk in the park sounds nice,
unless its pitch black and you're without a flashlight.
Bill is walking home with his wife,
but first a quick stop by the restroom.
Will he act fast in this quick developing scenario?
- I think there's something I gotta show ya on Facebook.
- Hmm.
- Yep, isn't that nice.
- You wouldn't catch me doing that.
- Nope?
- Not today - Oh.
I gotta go to the bathroom before we leave here.
- Okay. - I'll be right back.
I'll be right back.
(intense music)
Guess I'll have to use the guys.
Anybody in there?
(screams)
- Just back up man. Back up she's coming with me.
- Alright. - Back up.
- Back up! - Alright!
- Back--keep goin, keep goin!
- Help!
I don't wanna die.
- Back up man!
(intense music)
- [Bill] Hello 911, someone just kidnapped my wife.
- End ex, end ex, endex.
- All right Bill, tell me what happened?
- So we were sitting down, looking at the
Facebook, she got up to use the head.
There was somebody in there, he didn't wanna be bothered
and he took her.
- So what was going through your mind?
- I mean at first, she screamed,
I didn't know what was going on,
maybe there was a lizard in there or something.
- [Ryan] Right.
- [Bill] I wasn't ready for that.
- I'm the bad guy, I come out with her,
you know, what are you seeing?
I mean, do I have any weapons?
- You came out with her, and you had a knife.
- [Ryan] I didn't see you draw a gun, did you draw a gun?
- [Bill] No.
- How'd you make that decision?
- [Bill] You had a knife to her.
By the time I drew, you would've already
put a knife in her I think.
- I expected fireworks.
What were you thinking?
- Um.
- Tell me this, don't tell me what you were thinking,
tell me what you're thinking now?
- Now I'm thinking
I probably an the opportunity to shoot.
I wasn't thinking there, I kind of froze,
it caught me by surprise.
- [Chris] That's what trainings for right?
- Yeah.
- What's the best weapon in a knife fight?
- Um.
- [Chris] A gun? - A gun yeah.
(laughing)
- I was really surprised that you let him get away.
That was really your wife, think about it,
if that was really your wife, I know its not your wife,
but if it really was, would you have been more aggressive?
- Yes.
- I can't even imagine what you're thinking right now.
But I'm gonna venture to say that you wish you had
gone to guns,
got in a position of advantage,
and challenged him at least,
from the end of a firearm, correct?
- Yes.
- Do you do enough training that you think you could
make a percentage shot like that?
- I think I could.
- Because what do you think happened when she got
stuffed in that car?
- Um. - Nothing good right?
Don't even think about it.
- One of the companies that makes
First Person Defender possible, is Kimber.
You probably know Kimber, known for those really nice 1911s,
but one of their newest guns is their K6S.
It's a revolver, 357, 6 shot, its a sweet little carry gun.
Something that if you watch First Person Defender,
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So give Kimber a look, we appreciate their support.
- So here's the deal.
He's coming at you, right?
So he's closing the distance already.
You don't really need to close the distance,
and he has a knife, which is dangerous.
So before any distances are closed,
we're gonna get the gun out first.
So if I'm you, this is what I'm thinking.
Gun comes out, and I go,
let her go, let her go, let her go man.
Let her go, don't come any closer to me.
Don't come any closer to me.
So I start changing my angle,
to make it advantageous to me.
He's coming at me, you can walk towrads me KJ,
he's coming at me and I'm saying let her go, let her go man.
Because after all, what's he wanna do?
He's wants to leave anyways,
so as he's moving,
he's thinking about walking, controlling his person.
As I'm talking, you see this pole right here?
- Mhm.
- The whole time, I've got the sight on him
and I'm pressing that trigger.
I'm saying let her go, let her go man,
you don't wanna do this, c'mon man I'm gonna shoot you.
(fake gunshot)
and the whole time,
I'm talking, I'm pressing that trigger.
I'm seeing sights on him and I'm pressing that trigger.
I'm not gonna stop talking to press the trigger.
I'm pressing the whole time I'm aiming.
I'm looking at him, through these sites.
Door opens, you hear the scream and the door opens,
you go 'Oh jeez gun out!'
Start getting the angle. - Stop!
Right there hold on! - Watch those sights!
- Let her go, let her go!
- Press that trigger! (gunshot)
Good shot.
He's not getting away with my wife.
He's not going anywhere with her.
He's got a deadly weapon.
He's got means, he's got the knife.
He's got opportunity, he's got her.
And his intent, I don't know what it is, but you
don't grab somebody and hold a knife to their throat,
without having some kind of mal intent.
- Right. - Make sense?
- Yeah.
- Is that what you wish you had done the first time?
- Yeah.
- [Narrator] First Person Defender brought to you by,
Ruger,
GunDealio smartphone app,
Springfield Armory,
and Kimber.
(country rock)
- In Bill's scenario, before we did that,
I told him he was gonna have to walk across that dark park.
I asked him if he carries a light when he carries a gun.
He said he keeps a light in his truck,
so I didn't give him a light.
Now if that had been me,
I would've had a light in my pocket,
and while my wife was in the bathroom, I probably
would've been sitting there holding it and shining it
across the park thinking, 'Wow is that dark.'
well, we train a lot of different ways to hold a flashlight
and shoot, but Bill's scenario didn't require a light.
Now yes, if the bad guy came out of the bathroom
with my wife, I probably would've been like 'Holy cow!'
and I would've lit up that light,
I would've lit up that bad guy,
but I didn't need that light any further.
So is there anything wrong with dropping the light?
It could've gone something like this,
bad guy comes out,
I shine him, I light him up I think 'Holy cow!'
I've gotta make a precision shot.
I'd like to have two hands on the gun,
light drops, gun comes out, 'Let her go!
Let her go let her go!' (gunshot)
(country rock)
(gunshot)
I didn't need the light, to see my sights,
not in that pavilion, maybe in the park, but not this time.
(country rock)
(gunshot)
- One of the companies that supported this show
from the very beginning, is Ruger.
I'm sure you know Ruger.
They make a ton of different guns,
and a lot of stuff that's good for concealed carry,
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(intense music)
- [Narrator] Bill's in action in the first scenario
led to the abduction of his wife.
Will Bill act to save his wife
when faced with similar circumstances?
(intense music)
- Show you that, what do you think of that?
I'm thinking of buying the next one.
- That looks like a good one.
Do you know where you're
gonna go test it out first?
- Yeah, proably go to the range
or something and test it out.
I'll be right back, I have to go to the bathroom.
- Okay.
(knocking)
- Hmm, guess I'll have to use the boys bathroom.
(intense music)
I think we'll just home now, that one's nasty.
- Okay.
- Lets go, lets go. - Whoa, whoa, hey!
Stop right there! Stop right there!
(gunshot)
- Oh!
(intense music)
- Call 911.
- 911.
- End ex, end ex, end ex.
- Right on the nose baby. - It was a good shot.
(laughing) - Yes.
All right tell me about that one.
- She went in, decided he didn't wanna go in there,
kinda rolled out, he came around the corner and
I was ready.
- It felt like the same thing, didn't it?
- Yeah, it was close.
I was worried about the other guy
that was sitting over there.
- [Ryan] I come out, I grab her, what do you think?
- [Bill] Somebodies grabbing my wife,
and I gotta stop him.
- When did you draw?
Because I didn't even see it.
- [Bill] Probably about your third step over.
- [Ryan] Okay, before he really could
get a good eye on you and keep an eye on you really.
- Yeah.
- Is that what you expected?
- No.
- All right so he had means, opportunity, intent,
he had a knife, he had the means, he had opportunity,
he had your wife, grabbed her, snatched her up,
you didn't expect that did you?
- No.
- Not right there.
Did you think you were gonna start walking across the park?
- Yeah.
(laughs)
- Pleased with that hit?
How'd you get that hit, because you were moving,
talking, and you were shooting at the same time.
That was a good job, that's a percentage shot
on a moving target while you're moving,
and you're talking and communicating.
You know giving verbal commands, 'Let her go let her go.'
You gotta draw the line in the sand right?
- Yeah.
- You draw it before you entered the scenario this time?
- Yeah.
- Body won't go where the mind hasn't been so,
that's what training is about, and I say you know
there's three things that gotta be important, that's
perceptive because you gotta watch what's going on
around you, you gotta be ready to take action
at all times, even when you're not feeling ready,
and you gotta be willing,
you gotta be willing to do it.
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