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>> KPRC 2 this is Houston
newsmakers with khambrel
Marshall.
>> You see the horrible
pictures from more than a week
now thousands of Trump
supporters storming the Capitol
while a joint session of
Congress was underway to count
the electoral ballots to
certify the election of Joe
Biden is our 46th president.
Many of those rushing the
capital were doing so after
they’ve been told by President
Trump that if they quote didn’t
fight like hail they’re not
going have a country. And we
will never give up will never
concede perhaps the foundation of what all of this what
of what all of this what
And on her special day, you
a landslide. I’ll tell you now
that some of you are not going
to like this first segment this
morning because it will be
heavy on the truth we love the
truth on this program. In this case, the truth about the
case, the truth about the
accusations of widespread fraud
in this country. Fraud that did
not exist. Let me repeat that
fraud that did not exist, but
was repeated by the president
and those who support him and
by some conservative media and
social media and conspiracy
theories to build such a
groundswell of that fraud lie
that many many people believe
it thousands of those converged
on Washington D C to try to
stop democracy in action.
Well. How do we get to that
point and what will it take for
all of those who have believe
the lie to realize that doctor
Tom cold it is here this
morning to talk about that he
is the founded director of the
Anne and John Doerr Institute
for new leaders at Rice
University. A retired brigadier
general who taught at West
Point for many years
specializes in leadership in
psychology 3 Masters degrees
and a phd in some of that
Foundation good morning doctor
called it. Thank you in advance
for being willing to not only
talk about this conversation
but also going to the next
section with our newsmakers
extra as well. How do we get
that to this point where
millions of people. Believe
something they fell for
something that at this point we
know is not true.
>> Conspiracy theories and the
way that they work on people
sense of objectivity really
it’s really a fairly straightforward and simple
straightforward and simple
process and the first study on
this side of process occurred
in 1954. I by psychologist
mainly on special German he was
able to do put his researchers
in with a based religious cult
that they had predicted.
A spaceship was going to land
and take them away and then the
world was going to be destroyed
by a flood and they
specifically said it’s going to
happen on December 21st 1954.
So doctor fresh you’re pretty
sure that wasn’t going to
happen and he wanted dead.
See what their response was. It was it was the immediate
It was it was the immediate
construction of another
conspiracy here. And basically
they said that because of their
efforts the God of Earth and
decided to not allow the
destruction of the years by.
By the flood and they were even
more convinced of their
believes after the failed
prophecy than they were before.
a conspiracy theory is an
alternate reality that is
generated when people don’t want to turn loose of deeply
want to turn loose of deeply
held beliefs. They’re
confronted with reality like.
Election results. And they
can’t accept that reality in
their belief system so they
have to create something else.
Another idea to make it
palatable not sure she’s here
we talked about how the fraud
conspiracy that the election
fraud my that out there we
talked about that is tough work
is kind of tough.
>> Hard work to try to work
through that and come to some
conclusion that it makes sense.
Yeah, I mean it.
>> If you just inject of we
analyze what it would take for
a coordinated effort across 7
states with 7 different
election protocols with people
monitoring. To be able in Jack millions of fraudulent votes in
millions of fraudulent votes in
order to turn the election.
You get there was logic.
You can get there. Yes. A
charismatic leaders telling you
that happened around him are
saying there’s a media said it
is willing in their bubble to
say that happen because that’s
how people really get. Their
opinions and beliefs they don’t
get them by a lot of painful
hard logic. By looking at the
world around there. There’s
been a very successful
alternate reality created so
what’s the challenge of getting
the train back on the track of
truth because that’s what’s
going to have to happen if we get to a point we want to get
get to a point we want to get
to a point where we can talk
about things that matter like
policy for example.
>> I think there’s not a lot of
good news because we’re talking
about is re teaching people to
the objectives. You know it and
the whole reason why they’re
doing what they’re doing now is
they lost their ability to be
objective. I want sex losses
really hard this seekers which
is the religion that we are fresh and you’re studying.
fresh and you’re studying.
Has changed her name, but they
still exist today. It more than
50 years later, you know we
watch legislators throughout
this process and some during
the impeachment hearing some
are saying things are more
true, but there’s no fact
checking done in that
environment a lot of that.
>> Has been happening along the
way that some of these elected
officials have been
perpetuating some of these
things that we know really
don’t have much to to them how
much Blaine slash
responsibility to the elected
representatives have for
festering these kinds of things
even on both side of the eye.
>> When an elected embraces a
conspiracy theory because it’s
instrumental for them because
it can help them get ahead when
they know it’s not true.
I mean you know a senator who
is a Harvard educated lawyer
believing this now. But they do
it for instrumental reasons and
it lacks integrity, I’ve got a
great quote from that action
here. If we do not as Americans
confront a crisis of ethics and
integrity in our society and
among our leaders then American
democracy as we know it is
entering its twilight years
when we as people a free people
go wobbly on the truth is even
on what may seem the most
trivial matters. We go wobbly
on America. Rex tillerson said
that in 2018. It’s come true in
states we have a lot more to
talk about we’re going continue
our conversation on newsmakers
action where among other things
we’re going to talk about the
challenge of President Biden
has we talked about that a
little bit that’s going to be
quite a big challenge as he
takes office next week, thank
you again doctor Colditz.
>> We invite all of you to go
to click 2 Houston dot com to
pick up on our conversation
from there just ahead with the
impeachment vote last week
what’s likely to happen next.
KPRC legal analyst Brian wice
is here to talk about the possible path of an impeachment