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live from the local station news for Jax
starts now Michael Haynes sentenced to
life in prison for the murder of his
wife Bonnie Haines the couple's son
sitting down with news for Jax do you
think you could ever forgive him I'm not
sure as the honest answer I mean I think
it's certainly the right thing to do
I don't think we'll you know ever forget
and ever get over what happened but it
would be very difficult
Monty Haynes family saying they have
justice but still don't have Bonnie
Michael Haynes attorney vowing to appeal
the sentence Aaron Fraser told me
Michael Haynes sentence does bring a bit
of relief knowing the long fight is over
but his mom is still gone I was able to
sit down with him 26 years after meeting
him as a toddler when his mother was
first reported missing so the last time
I sat down with you
you were three and a half and we thought
your mom was missing and it turned out
she really wasn't missing I know you've
forgotten a lot about that time of your
life but are there any recollections
that stand out to you from that no ma'am
I have no memory of her no memory of him
prior to coming to court probably my
earliest memory that I can think of as
being at Liz's house but I'm not sure if
that was when I was in her custody or
whether that was when I was visiting
after I was already with the Frazier's
so I think I have a hard time
pinpointing my earliest memory but you
mentioned in court you carried a shovel
and you went and looked for a shovel
when you said you wanted to go find your
mommy
fast forward when you grew up and you
went to the backyard of the home where
it happened and you wanted to do some
excavating and and and remove the pool
do you think you were subconsciously
looking for your mom then I mean maybe
partly two weeks prior we removed some
bricks that were on top of the concrete
slab she was under
and I told Jean Fraser my adopted
parents then that I thought if she was
anywhere in the yard it would be there
and then two weeks later when we were
demoing the pool and would run the
excavator over to concrete and I begin
to remove it and break the water pipe
there's no thought in my head that she's
here like I'm not digging to look for
when I found the plastic bag and her
skeleton like it wasn't this is her it
it's over Saul it was I wasn't actively
doing it maybe but I'm not sure maybe
subconsciously maybe subconsciously
there was you know something there but I
mean even even when I picked her skull
up it wasn't oh this could be her I
thought it was a coconut like it looked
like a coconut did not look like bone it
wasn't it wasn't until I saw the teeth
that I knew that it was her do you think
maybe divine intervention was it just a
coincidence that you happen to be the
one that picked up the skull no I like
to think that it is theirs you know they
even through this whole process there
was you know part of me that says why
are we going through this if he's not
gonna be found guilty why would the
whole family be just tormented again so
I felt like it God had God had his hand
on on this whole time
and your mom may be guiding you yes
Michael Haines can you call him or refer
to him as your father at all or is it
just Michael Haines ever refer to him as
my father I took a father but your
mother Bonnie she loved you very much
and I know that from just seeing the
pictures and the first time I walked
into the home Aaron I knew that she
didn't leave you I remember coming back
to the newsroom and telling Tom Welles
like she didn't we
there's no way she left that little boy
I just want you to know that this family
I told him that she loved him very much
I did I mean I'm sure his his aunts I'll
tell him that but I don't know I just
felt compelled that I had to tell him
that to reassure him because I was there
that night in our newsroom when Mary
came back from that interview she told
me that she was sure she just
interviewed a killer I almost fell over
right do you remember what gave you that
feel Oh clearly I mean it was partly it
was Michael Hames demeanor at the time
he just didn't seem that concerned about
where Bonnie could be you know that she
was missing I just kept thinking it
doesn't add up and then and then like I
told Erin the pictures revealed such
love that she had for him and then it
was also it seemed like he was coaching
Erin his little boy he kept asking him
Erin where's mommy where's mommy where's
mommy I was a young mother than myself
and I kept thinking I mean I was just
kind of recoiled and thinking why on
earth would anybody say that to their
child when their mommy is clearly
missing it just all of it kind of just
it just didn't add up it really didn't
Mary's never revealed that hunch
publicly until now because it never
influenced our coverage of this
investigation never once we don't report
hunches here only facts as we know them
information that we can independently
verify I have to point out too that the
young woman who is sitting with Erin in
the interview is Alisa and that is his
wife of ten years and she chose not to
speak but she was there for for support
for him and she has been through it all
Erin would quickly pointed out to me a
very strong young man extraordinary