US AND OUR ENEMIES ARE
REJOICING.
LET’S BRING IN OUR PANEL.
WE WILL START THERE.
LESLIE MARSHALL A DEMOCRATIC
STRATEGIST.
JONATHAN SWAN NATIONAL POLITICAL
REPORTER FOR AXIOS AND FORMER
EDUCATION SECRETARY BILL
BENNETT.
JONATHAN, IT’S OBVIOUSLY NIGHT
AND DAY AS FAR AS THE SPEECH AND
THE MESSAGE FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN
TO WHAT WE SAW FROM PRESIDENT
TRUMP AND HIS ADDRESS TO THE
UNITED NATIONS.
BUT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT HE
DIDN’T TALK ABOUT CHINA OR
RUSSIA.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> YEAH, THERE WAS NO MENTION
WHATSOEVER OF CHINA OR RUSSIA,
WHICH IS NOTABLE, GIVEN THAT
ADMINISTRATION IS ARE POWER
COMPETITION FOCUS ON ASIA.
CHINA WAS REFERENCED IN INDIRECT
WAY.
SO, HE WAS SORT OF PUTTING OUT
THESE NONCONFRONTATIONAL
MESSAGES.
THE BIG ONE YOU GRABBED THERE
WHICH WAS THE-WE DON’T WANT A
NEW COLD WAR.
IT WAS SORT OF TRYING TO LOWER
THE TEMPERATURE.
HE HAS GOT A REAL PROBLEM WITH
THE CHINA STRATEGY THAT HE IS
TRYING TO PURSUE RIGHT NOW.
THE STRATEGY SOUNDED GOOD ON
PAPER.
IT WAS THIS IDEA THAT WE CAN
COMPETE AND CONFRONT CHINA IN
ALL THOSE THINGS NEED TO LIKE
TRADE BUT ALSO COOPERATE WITH
THEM ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
THAT’S NOT HOW CHINA LIKES TO
OPERATE.
AND CHINA SENT A VERY CLEAR
MESSAGE TO BIDEN IF YOU KEEP
TALKING US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE
GENOCIDE IN JING JIANG WE ARE
NOT GOING TO BE SITTING DOWN
WITH JOHN KERRY WE ARE GOING TO
BE DOING ZOOM CALLS WITH HIM AND
HUMILIATING HIM WHEN HE COMES
OVER HERE.
THAT’S PROBABLY ONE OF THE
BIGGEST STRATEGIC CHALLENGES
THEY FACE.
>> Bret: LESLIE, IT’S BEEN A
BUMPY FEW DAYS MAYBE FEW WEEKS
FOR THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.
FOR THE PRESIDENT ON FOREIGN
POLICY BUT DOMESTICALLY AS WELL.
WHAT ABOUT THIS SPEECH?
>> I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS
STRONG.
I THOUGHT IT WAS FORCEFUL.
I THOUGHT IT HAD HOPE.
I LIKE A LOT OF THINGS HE
DISCUSSED REGARDING DIPLOMACY.
I LIKE THAT HE PRETTY MUCH PUT
IT OUT THERE, BRET, THAT WE, THE
UNITED STATES, ARE THE ONES THAT
ARE GOING TO LEAD THE REST OF
THE WORLD.
THIS IS SO TRUE THROUGH CLIMATE
CHANGE AND THROUGH COVID.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE NEED TO WORK
TOGETHER.
WE DON’T NEED TO HAVE THESE
UNNECESSARY WARS.
WE’RE GOING TO BE YOUR LEADER
AND IN A SENSE, YOU NEED US.
AND THEY DO.
THE WORLD DOES NEED THE UNITED
STATES AND THE WORLD DOES NEED
OUR LEADERSHIP.
I LOVED THE FACT THAT HE TALKED
ABOUT SUDAN AND BELL AREDUCE AND
HE TALKED ABOUT PROTESTERS THERE
AND I LIKED THE FACT THAT I FELT
HE OWNED IT AND TOOK
RESPONSIBILITY.
HE DIDN’T SHIRK IT ON
AFGHANISTAN.
BUT HE DIDN’T DWELL ON IT TOO
LONG IN HIS SPEECH EITHER.
>> Bret: BILL IT, WILL BE
INTERESTING TO TAKE A POLL OF
WHAT COUNTRIES THINK ABOUT THE
U.S. IN THE WAKE OF THE RECENT
DAYS AND WEEKS.
BUT THERE IS A POLL THAT CAME
OUT TODAY HERE IN THE U.S. IN
ONE PARTICULAR STATE IN THE
STATE OF IOWA, WHICH OBVIOUSLY
FACTORS INTO POLITICS.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
PRESIDENT BIDEN’S JOB APPROVAL
IN IOWA 31% ACCORDING TO THE DES
MOINES REGISTER POLL HAS DROPPED
SIGNIFICANTLY OBVIOUSLY THE
SITUATION AT THE BORDER FACTORS
IN NOT JUST ALONG TEXAS BUT
AROUND THE COUNTRY.
>> YEAH, IF HE WAS TO CONTINUE
TO TALK ABOUT THE PROTESTERS IN
BELARUS AND IGNORE RUSSIA AND
CHINA, THOSE NUMBERS WILL
CONTINUE TO GO DOWN, LOOK, HE
SHOWED UP I GUESS HE GETS CREDIT
FOR THAT BY THE WAY IN NOT
TALKING ABOUT RUSSIA AND CHINA.
THEN HE TALKS AND EMPHASIZES I’M
TOLD ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE,
GLOBAL WARMING, WE USED TO CALL
IT BUT DOESN’T MENTION CHINA
THERE EITHER.
WHICH, OF COURSE, IS WHISTLES IN
THE WIND.
IF CHINA DOESN’T GET -- DO
SOMETHING, IF WE DON’T FORCE OR
USE OUR EFFORTS TO GET CHINA TO
DO SOMETHING.
NOTHING -- NOTHING BETTER WILL
HAPPEN.
HE DOESN’T SEEK A COLD WAR BUT
HE IS IN A COLD WAR.
SOMEBODY SHOULD TELL HIM THAT HE
IS ALREADY IN IT CHINA MUST BE
VERY HAPPY WITH THAT SPEECH THE
BORDER IS A DISASTER.
IT IS A CATASTROPHE.
AND THE HUMAN CATASTROPHE HERE
OF THESE 15, 16,000 PEOPLE IS
JUST EXACERBATED BY THE
CATASTROPHE OF THE SECRETARY
MAYORKAS WHO SAYS THE BORDER IS
CLOSED, YOU KNOW, THERE YOU ARE.
YOU WANT TO BELIEVE SECRETARY OF
HOMELAND SECURITY OR BELIEVE
YOUR OWN EYES.
IT’S RIDICULOUS.
IS THERE A BREAKING POINT ON
THIS ISSUE?
IS THERE A BREAKING POINT?
>> Bret: IT IS INTERESTING TO
WATCH THE SECRETARY TESTIFY
THERE WERE NOT A LOT OF ANSWERS
TO SENATORS, BOTH SIDES OF THE
AISLE QUESTIONING MAYORKAS
TODAY.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE
IMAGE THAT HAS TAKEN A LOT OF
COVERAGE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT
PLACES AND THIS IS A BORDER
PATROL ALONG THE BORDER DEALING
WITH THESE HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS,
THE VICE PRESIDENT WEIGHED IN.
OTHERS, TAKE A LISTEN.
>> WHAT I SAW DEPICTED ABOUT
THOSE INDIVIDUALS ON HORSEBACK
TREATING HUMAN BEINGS THE WAY
THEY WERE IS HORRIBLE.
AND I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT IS
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WHICH IS A
THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.
>> TO ENSURE CONTROL OF THE
HORSE LONG REINS ARE USED.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO INVESTIGATE
THE FACTS TO ENSURE THAT THE
SITUATION IS AS WE UNDERSTAND IT
TO BE.
>> ANY MISTREATMENT OR ABUSE OF
A MIGRANT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
WE ARE VERY TROUBLED BY WHAT WE
HAVE SEEN.
>> Bret: JONATHAN, QUICKLY,
BORDER PATROL IS PUSHING BACK
HARD.
VICE PRESIDENT IS WEIGHING IN ON
THIS BUT HASN’T BEEN WEIGHING IN
ON THE BORDER.
>> BIDEN IS IN A VERY DIFFICULT
POSITION BECAUSE IS HE ACTUALLY
GETTING HIT BY BOTH SIDES AT
THIS POINT.
CHUCK SCHUMER, SENATE MAJORITY
LEADER CAME OUT AND WAS PRETTY
EXCORIATING IN HIS COMMENTS
ABOUT THIS.
SO, BIDEN HAS BEEN HIT BY THE
LEFT FOR HARSH TREATMENT AND HE
HAS BEEN HIT BY THE RIGHT FOR