- I get slightly freaked out
when I hug and my arms are showing
'cause they put makeup on me and I'm like, Ugh.
So I don't usually - Oh, if it's on the outfit.
- Yeah. I don't usually hug awkward like that.
Like Just with my palms.
Like it was really interesting.
- Well, I thought it was a nice hug.
- It was a nice hug. - It was a nice hug.
- It's nice to be hugging.
- You're here in person.
- Yes. - Last time it was virtual
Or the first time it was virtual, yeah.
- Yeah. Well, what I gotta say about that
is your setup during virtual was so impressive.
- Oh. - Your place in Montana.
That whole room you did.
- Okay. But you only saw where I was shooting.
So the rest of the house wasn't
it was still being done, so.
(Kelly laughs) - Oh, okay. Interesting.
- So I was just in the cold,
like there's no, there's no was no heating yet.
There was nothing.
It was just in a corner
and it looked like I had my together.
- Well, from my view, it looked so good
and I was in my closet.
- Yeah, you were.
- So I was, that was. - A lot of people were.
- Yeah, but it was so embarrassing.
Yours had like this behind it, it looked like.
- Yeah. - Mine had my wife's dresses.
- Oh wait. You know what?
No, no, no.
I might have talked to you.
I was like, wait, I did do something from Montana.
and then I also did some
from here where they did build like a set.
- That's the thing I think I saw.
- No, that's the thing. I didn't do that.
- Oh, okay. - Yeah.
No, but I did shoot some of the show from my
a cabin that was unfinished in Montana
and we made it look like it.
No. Yeah. They built that, my art department.
- Oh okay. 'Cause that's what I saw
and that's what I was in. (audience laughs)
We were talking, I'm like, oh yeah.
They're like, it's gonna be casual.
I'm like great. I'm like, no, mine is casual.
- Yeah. This is not casual. This is not casual.
- There's like literal dresses.
- No, they came in and it was so funny
because I had to leave my house.
- Right. - Just because of COVID law.
- Yeah. Yeah.
- You couldn't, I couldn't be in the house with them.
So only like one person could come in and build.
It was like crazy.
- It was insane.
- But I walked back into my formal living room
and I was like there's a set in my living room.
It was weird.
- Which is trippy.
- I love the shoe thing though that you had. The shoe thing.
- Yeah. I did not want it on TV.
I didn't think about it - It was awesome.
Everybody though.
That's what's so funny. We got to see everyone's closet.
For some reason that was where everyone was hiding
from their children.
- (laughs) Yeah, exactly right.
- So I heard you took advantage of the pandemic
and you did like some at home stuff.
You built something.
- Yeah. Well partly 'cause of stuff like that.
- Where I was like - You felt the shamed
- I felt shamed. And I was like I need a spot
'cause you know, we had no idea
how long the pandemic was gonna go.
- Yeah. - So I was like,
so I needed an office.
I needed it in my backyard and I wasn't sure how to do it.
So I looked at YouTube clips.
- You can learn everything on YouTube
- Dude. It blew my mind.
- Yes.
- I learned everything.
- Yeah. - And so I built a cabin.
I was doing a lot of the zooms from there.
- You built a cabin?
You built that?
- I built that.
(audience applauds)
- What!
- Totally. From YouTube. Everything from framing
- You need like an HGTV show.
(Jake laughs)
- Yeah.
- I think people are like making sourdough bread,
and making like small bird box feeders or something.
- Totally. - You made an actual cabin.
- Yeah. It was great.
Now what you don't see in the photos
is the amount of ants and spiders that live in there.
- Yeah. - And how hot it gets.
- You just have to pretend you're camping.
- That's what it is.
It's camping nonstop.
But I put it up.
It was great.
It's been great.
And then when summer hit,
it was the first time I'm like,
oh yeah, this is a sauna. - Oh.
- I built an ant house and a sauna.
- Especially if you live in the Valley, which I do.
Yeah. I thought Texas was hot.
The Valley here is like a different level of,
I hate my life.
Yeah. Yeah.
- But what I will say from doing a little zoom in there
to this.
This is so nice.
(audience applauds)
- I think it's impressive that you built that.
- It was really fun.
- Do do your kids love that?
My kids would go nuts over that.
- You know, they don't
because I mean the trick is
just throw a couple spiders and ants in a spot.
- Oh. - And kids have no interest.
- So now I know what to do.
- Yes.
So it really, I was like okay. So I built this
- I'm gonna line them up in front of my room at home.
- Everything you like, one big spider.
- Just to deter them. - That's right.
- This is good advice.
I have to ask you about this
because I feel like so many people come on here
and have a Prince story and I know Prince was on New Girl.
So what do you have a story? A Prince story.
- Yeah. Well I know, well Prince really liked New Girl
which was cool. - Yeah.
- We found out that he watches
- Like a lot of people. - Yeah.
- Yeah. Like, liked it, yeah.
- I'm like Prince is a wild like.
And so he wanted to do it, the show.
He, you know, obviously Liz Meriwether
then said like, come on. - Yeah.
And when he came and he was walking around.
He was talking to Zoe and he was kind of where you are
and I'm here.
And then I saw him look at me
and he said to Zoe, "I would like to meet Nick now."
- Oh, he called you Nick?
- And Zoe looked at me and obviously whatever Prince wants.
So she looked at I'm like, yeah.
So she walked in and she's like,
"Hey, Nick, come over here."
And I was like, "Hey".
And I met Prince and he was as nice as it gets.
And he wanted to live in the reality
of the show and he wanted Nick and Jess to be together.
So he said he'll do the show
if he could help them get together
and he got to live a little fantasy.
- Wait, he changed the narrative of the story?
I love that.
- He wanted them together.
And we wanted Prince.
- Prince was so powerful.
- Prince is, I mean the best.
- What kind of power is that?
Yes. But I need them to get together.
I will not show up.
- Because I'm happy to do it.
If I'm part of them being together.
- Oh my gosh. - The best.
- Did he call you Nick the whole time?
- Honestly, I was in, I'm such a fan.
that I think he also could have called me anything
and I would've responded. - John.
- He could have called me "shut up and gave me my coffee"
and I'd be like, you got it.
It didn't matter.
- Absolutely. - Absolutely sir.
- I love that he was like, wouldn't do it unless they would.
That's amazing.
So that was the look at his show.
His HBO Max show, Minx. The show is very funny.
It's very clever.
But for those who haven't seen it
and need a little bit more than in your face,
what's it about?
(Jake and Kelly laugh) - Shvantz in the face.
So it's basically about the creation
of like a Playgirl magazine in the seventies.
It's a young feminist, has an idea
for a magazine and meets a smut publisher who I play.
- Yeah. - And we create Minx together
and we launch it and we sell it.
And the cast is incredible.
The writing's great.
It's a really, really fun show.
And if you can get past the shvantzes in the face.
- I think you're gonna love it.
- Or if you watch it for that reason
- Whatever, however you wanna watch it.
- There's an audience for everyone.
- That's exactly right.
- I love that you're playing this character though.
Is it fun to play someone so outrageous?
- It is. He's a great character.
Ellen Rappaport, writer, has created
like such a fun, unique person.
And you know, so the funny thing is
when she was courting me for this job.
You know, it's about the seventies and Playgirl.
And so she sent me some Playgirls.
- So that's a good way to get someone in. (laughs)
- Well, you know,
- You wanna see a bunch of
- I was like, all right,
here's a bunch of nude men from the seventies. Cool.
And so I like put 'em on a shelf
and I'm like I don't need to see this.
- Yeah. - But I did come home one day
and my daughters had found it. - No.
- And there were these two girls going like this
Yes. And I had to go like, "Don't look at that!"
And they go, "Why?"
And I go, "I don't know." (audience laughs)
- I don't have any reason right now.
- No one's trained me on what to say here,
but I don't think you should look at dudes
from the seventies who are naked.
- Oh my God.
- And so I called Ellen and I said,
"Thank you for that,
but please don't send me anymore of these magazines."
- I don't need to be method about it.
- Yeah. I don't need it. I'll just read the scripts.
I'll play the part.
- Oh my gosh. That. What do you.
Yeah, 'cause kids do find things in your house sometimes.
And the stories that come like so quickly from your mouth.
You're like, does that even make sense?
Just go with it.
They're young, they don't know.
- Yeah. But I also didn't know what to say.
'Cause they were like, well you had it
and why do you have it?
And I had to say like, because of my job.
- Yeah. And then your job seems very messed up.
- So weird. Like what am I gonna say?
Go to bed at nine.
Now my job is I look at these weird magazines.
- I'm like the authority is getting really weird.
Just trust me.
- My golden rule, just listen to me.
So wait, is it true that you've gotten into hypnotherapy
because I have never done it.
I'm afraid to do it, but I wanna do it.
- What are you afraid of?
- I'm afraid that like,
someone's gonna get me to do something like,
and I'm just not.
It's like I want somebody else to be in the room
to make sure no one messes with me.
- So you don't end up doing like the chicken dance.
- Yes. - You see it at like Vegas.
- I literally said chicken dance in my head
and I didn't wanna sound weird,
but you did so okay.
- So I have, I found a woman who's really great at it
and I really like it.
It's not as crazy as those Vegas shows would tell you.
I don't like start and then I'm like, anything could happen.
- But why did you do it?
What was your, what was your reasoning?
- I was interested.
I was interested in finding a form
of therapy that just felt different.
- That's my thing.
Like any kind of like trauma is that like helpful?
- You're able to almost rewrite your own past.
(Kelly gasps)
So you're able to see an experience
but you're controlling it.
It's not like the hypnotherapist is guiding you through it.
- Okay. - So you get to go back
and go like, I would like to rewrite this
and view this moment.
That's probably not that big of a trauma.
Maybe I saw it wrong.
- So its like almost looking it
from a vantage point. Different vantage point.
- You get to see your past from now,
but you're also making it up a little bit.
- Okay.
- So you can kind of make it more positive
and how you want it to be.
- This is something everyone should do.
- Well, I don't know.
- We all have trauma. - Totally.
I know that for me I've really loved it.
And the other side is it's really fun.
- Yeah. - And I think that
if you're doing something for self-help
- Yeah. - It's also okay to enjoy it.
- Yeah. Okay. You wanna know something funny? (laughs)
My, my therapist was like, literally her advice to me
was stop reading self-help
or any educational thing. (laughs)
- How come?
- She was like, you need to stop.
You need to read some kind of fiction because I obsess
- Read a mystery.
- Just read some Agatha Christie.
She's like, you need to not.
I wanna, next time we talk,
I don't want you to be like,
"so I read this" and it's like - And I want, yeah.
- Yeah. - Totally.
- 'Cause I just love like everyone's perspective on life
and like what they're learning.
I just love knowing what I could learn.
I'm a last born.
So I feel like that's, I'm used to like kind of
- You watch the older people do it
and then you make your adjustments.
- Yes. We're the perfect sucker for a self-help book.
- Well, look, I'm talking about hypnotherapy
on the Kelly Clarkson Show.
- I'm into it though.
I really have wanted to do it
but I want to like trust the person I'm going to.
So I'm totally gonna get the number. Yeah.
- I find it really fun and I feel like that's self-help.
So if you're gonna do it, you might as well enjoy it.
'Cause it's really just like a weird hobby.
- And it's not. I'm still obeying what my therapist says.
It's something different.
(Jake and Kelly laugh) - Yeah, Totally.
It's not a self help book.
And it's like educational things.
I'm just obsessed with them. Anyway.