- Saint, you hear me?
- [Saint] Yeah bro, what's goodie?
- Man, I appreciate you making this happen, man.
- Anytime, I mean I got the time now, don't I?
- [Carl] Right? (laughs)
- I couldn't say I was busy
- [Carl] There we go!
Now, now, we all got the free time in the world
to make stuff happen.
- I mean, we all got it, everybody.
- [Carl] There you go, there you go.
I'm curious, man, where you at right now?
- Like, literally at this moment,
I'm on the balcony.
- Okay, but I meant like, yeah, in L.A.
That's where you hanging' out for your quarantine?
- Yeah, this is where I'm trapped for my quarantine,
and it's raining too.
But I'ma let this rain,
I'ma let it hit real quick,
I'ma give it a little move.
A little vibe. - Okay.
I'm not mad at that man.
Listen man I been peeping ya.
You giving out life coaches
sessions
life coaches sessions during your quarantine man.
Talk about the
ignorant life coaching sessions.
How did that come about?
- Fam I was
listen
it's quarantine and I'm going to myself
if this is a brand new world
like what's my role in this new world?
What's my job?
Right.
What can I do,
what can I offer the new world?
I'm like ew
I'm good at a couple things
I might help you get your car back on track.
Let me do this life coaching. - Okay.
- [Saint] Let me school some people
on some things they need to know.
Unless they need a little motivation.
I can help them out.
So I jumped in.
- I start the life coach.
Ignorant life coach is amazing.
- Bro what's the craziest advice,
or craziest story you gotten from a fan's
life coaching so far?
- [Saint] You know what they got
they got a lot of love problems.
- [Carol] Ah
- Like her boyfriend broke up with her
on Friday
with quarantine.
(laughs)
- Oh, oh, oh.
(laughs)
- And I was like
- [Carl] Right at the start.
- Yeah, I was like listen
that's dark.
He told you on a Friday when quarantine started,
take the weekend off and don't go no where,
and hold this hot brick.
I mean that's savage.
- I mean it's only right they went to ghetto
(muffled speaking) with the love songs man.
(laughs)
- [Saint] I cured her.
- And there we go.
Give her the quarantine playlist.
- [Saint] Facts.
- I gotta congratulate you man.
Roses picking up crazy steam.
As of today
number 39 on the hot 100.
- That's wild.
- [Carl] Number two
number two, number one
it's a second week number one on the
dance and electric
a streaming chart.
Talk about this
this crazy wave of success
you got going on man.
- He don't know.
He don't know what's going on.
- Oh you got looked up.
(laughs) - We number 39
On the hot 100.
We top 40 for the first time.
talk about it man.
- First of all
I gotta shot out to
(muffled speaking)
the remix to who
the producer
DJ who we mix the record.
- Really gave it a whole new life.
He deserves a round of applause.
I mean for real.
He's from
if I'm incorrect I think he from
(muffled speaking)
Yeah.
Pardon me, I'm trying to finish off
these edibles real quick.
- [Carl] Nah, nah, nah.
You good, you good.
- That's how I start my morning. (laughs)
(laughs)
So he's from (muffled speaking)
I think he heard the record
because it was big in Russia.
And he put his spend on that.
And he we are.
I think it's a
it's a hit record.
I don't know if it's a gold or platinum record yet.
I gotta go do the math,
but it's definitely a hit record.
It's top 40.
Number one in the UK,
number one in Dublin,
top three in Spotify
entire system,
and
number 39 on the billboard charts.
Wow!
That's crazy!
You got say
hold up let me say it again.
Let me hear it again.
- [Carl] Number 39, number 39
on the hot 100 right now.
- Bro that's big.
That's a new point in my career
to be a
that's new.
- Yeah because I know
that's your first solo
hot 100 record.
You was previously on it with Brown skin girl with Beyonce.
- [Saint] Right.
And Wiz Kid.
But when you made Roses
cus it's like three years old.
Came out 2016.
- [Saint] It's five years old.
- Five years old.
Like did you
even like
foresee
like this kind of massive take over?
- [Saint] Yeah.
I don't this was gon happen.
Why would I do it if I didn't think this was gon happen?
Like what
- [Carl] I already know you was confident.
I know you a confident dude.
I gotta ask you for the fans.
You know I mean
I respect that,
but to be number one
I know your generalist
when it comes to this whole musician thing.
You can do rap, the rock.
You know the singing.
Everything
is engraved in you.
But to be number one on the dance charts.
- I aint gon lie.
I didn't necessarily aim (laughs)
I didn't say "you ima aim for that"
I didn't say
dance too.
I might of left that one off by accidentally.
And it
like
God reminded me
"yeah you forgot this one."
oh okay let's start there.
But yeah.
I mean my
ambitious, my intention was to be number one period.
I want to be number one in every space.
- So the fact that this came first.
It's an incredible
yeah it's a gift.
I didn't know the looks would come first.
You ask for these blessings,
and then they come,
and they all in order.
And this is the order they came in.
How ever we start, we start.
We off to the races either way.
- Bro it's crazy because
you know to
keep going with that momentum
on Friday.
You
Marshmellow, Southside, Giggs
teamed up for a massive record.
Been thru this before.
How did that collaboration come about?
cus that's so left field.
- You know what's funny when you really understand
that we're all musicians.
We just make records,
and we make songs
from places that are familiar to us or new.
Then it all starts to make sense.
I walked in the studio when I was in Miami.
And I saw
that's when I met Southside.
So me and Southside in the studio,
and he plays that beat.
It's the first and only beat and only song we ever made.
And I was like
"all right cool, pull it up."
and then I just off
I start right there.
And then when I went to Europe.
I was in London doing some shows.
In Europe doing a bunch of shows
and I went and linked up with Giggs.
And it was the first record I played him
like yo listen
I think this will be great
if you, me
all of us on this record.
And he did his verse right away.
Right away like
he aint even hesitate.
I didn't even have a verse on it yet.
All I had was the chorus.
- [Carl] Wow.
And then I went back
and then I added my verse
and Marshmellow already added
I think Marshmellow added more
and then they already had started the record together.
By the time we sent it back to em
it was
you know
all the parts to make the song, a song
and then they did they finesse on the beat,
finished it up.
But it's a strange combination.
It's like all these superheros.
It's Avengers.
you don't expect all to be in the same movie
but they in the same movie.
- There you go.
I gotta ask
what you say that
what superhero would you call yourself in this case?
- I'm Wolverine every time.
I'm Black Wolverine no matter what the movie is.
- [Carl] Oh (laughs) Yeah.
- [Carl] Bring the claws out.
I like that.
- Every time.
My skin gon rejuvenate,
it's gon necessitate itself,
and I always got a little spill on me.
Just to make it a little detailed.
- My man.
I like that man.
And it's crazy because
like we're talking about
with your success.
Roses being top 40.
You said on the record "Ima get a grammy next year."
- [Saint] Look at that.
Yeah.
(laughs)
- It's crazy.
What would a grammy mean
to a Brooklyn kid like you man?
- That means all the little people get a shot.
That means all the underdogs
finally get heard for the first time.
Like when the underdog win,
they win for everybody.
Because somebody gotta come through that door,
and break it open.
Make it possible.
I'm a Brooklyn kid.
So for me
rapping all the other forms of music that I participate in.
We catch a win.
It to win for everybody who was counted out.
Cus I shouldn't been here.
A lot of people before me got they shout
that should've been there.
Like I had to muscle my way in.
Nobody aint give me nothing.
And it wasn't necessarily expected so
for all the people that clap for me when I win
I know those are the people that were counted out.
I go "yeah I know you relate to it."
- There you go.
I feel like you have speech ready man.
I feel like the speech is just
sitting in your bedroom right now.
- It's two bottle of champagne.
Ima let em go.
Soon as it go off.
I'm go
- [Carl] You and Biggs gonna go crazy.
(laughs)
- We going stupid bro.
- You in Biggs gonna go crazy man.
Like I know also
you're a strip club safa.
- [Saint] Yeah,
big time.
(laughs)
- I gotta ask you this man.
What strip club you gon hit
when this quarantine is over man?
- You know what I might do too much.
I might do a little too much.
Yeah.
I might have to have
a little talk with my accountant.
And say listen
let's consolidate these expenses.
Here what we're gon do.
What I would've done
is Dee's strip clubs
but if we consolidate
and bring the strippers here.
- [Carl] Consolidate.
- We can maximize our time,
minimize our cost,
and exaggerate our expression.
Look at I got
(making noise)
- This is why I mess with you Lutty man.
You a thinker brother.
(laughs)
You a thinker man.
I mean
you have a lot a
dope people in your corner man.
You did the borders track
with Lenny Kravitz.
You worked with Beyonce.
You have Biggs right there
as your mentor, man.
Like
what would you say
you taken from a Lenny,
a Beyonce,
or even a Biggs
that you continue to use in your career today?
- I take them as subtle reminders.
Subtle and obvious reminders
that I'm where I'm suppose to be.
- [Carl] Yeah.
- If you look around
in every corner there's a
shape that's reflective
or a reminder
you are the shape that you are.
You start feeling like you a shape
that's in the right place for the first time.
Like you not out of place.
- I look around the room,
and I notice people that I can identify with
and come from the places I come from,
and they as ambitious as me.
And they seen.
They touch the moon a couple of times.
It makes me confident about what I think I am.
Cus I know when I look around the room a couple years ago
I was
by myself mostly.
- [Saint] So.
- And you say that man reminds me when I saw you at the
Roc Nation brunch.
You know how a lot of people when they at the brunch
like oh my God
and I like I can't believe
da, da, da.
You was just there
just another day.
(laughs)
- That confidence.
Just another day
in the neighborhood.
- Just a blessed day.
It's a good day to have brunch with the family.
That's how I feel.
I'm alone.
I feel like I'm alone where I'm at.
Like I'm not uncomfortable in any space I'm at.
I know that I worked to get there.
Even if it's a gift to be there,
I know I belong.
Because I did the work.
So when you see me anywhere
whether it's some where luxurious somewhere,
really exaggerated.
So it just somewhere low key.
I'm the same person.
I'm acting like I'm at the chicken shop,
and I'm just waiting for my joint to come out.
- There we go.
I respect that man.
Before I let you go.
I gotta end it with a Jay-Z question.
Representing Brooklyn for this one.
If you could pick one Jay-Z song or album
to title this chapter in your life
which song or album will that be?, and why?
- You know what.
I would go with Life and Times of Sean Carter Volume three.
- [Carl] Whew Wow!
Volume three.
Why volume three?
- Cus although Reasonable Doubt was the start,
I think after volume three
things were starting to feel like
that went autopilot.
Like you was starting to understand what was happening.
He done enough work
that you started to get
the messaging.
It was a little bit more
clear.
On Reasonable Doubt it was the first time out.
Even though it was successful
he was still telling his story from the early days.
See I'm going on collection two
which happens to be my third
body of work.
It's funny.
It just happens to feel like
they're about to know
absolute certainty
this what I stand for,
this is who I am,
and this where I'm going next.
And you either get with
or you just move inside and watch it.
- With you saying that before I let you go.
Speaking of collection who creatively, artistically
what growth do you see in yourself now
versus collection one?
- You know it's funny
I'm still as fearless as I was then.
If the difference is I'm probably better with
the doing the things that I was doing then.
All of the same things that I've done
I better with my line of thinking.
I always believed in myself the same way,
but I'm sharper.
I can hit my shot a little bit sharper.
Say I was running
you think about an athlete
and they tryna make sure
that their vertical
and its like you know
you gotta
foot
an 18, 20 inch vertical.
I just been working on my jumps,
and I been making sure I got a 32 vertical.
Like that's where I'm at
in my head.
- Straight Zac Lavining from the foul line.
Lebron from the line.
My man.
Say man I appreciate you.
I'm looking forward
for collection two man.
That's gon be
something beastly.
- Yeah it's gon be aggressive.
I hope you ready.
- Oh man, any last words for your fans?
- Nah there's so much more to come.
We really at the beginning right now.
Just hold on we gon get through this.
Corona,
Covid,
everything that's happening right now
these are just moments.
Keep your journals.
Remember all of these moments
so we can tell our kids about them.
Music and art gon be even better than it was before.
With hardship comes opportunity tell new stories.
- My man.
Same man, thank you for your time man.
I appreciate you,
and again congratulations on your success my brother.
- Thank you man.
- [Carl] Well deserved.
- All right.