i still don't see
people that are formal with me and call
me hyung and stuff
as like tong zing yeah i don't really
see them it's weird it's just like
someone you're you're below me but like
i see it as like okay you look up to me
i'll never look at them as you're below
me but i'll kind of look at them as like
all right so
you know what can i do for you type
thing like as a i guess older sibling
type figure but
oh no oh no it's really this is it's
it's a it's a gray area i think for me
yeah because like whenever i see like
things i'm always just like oh like you
know it's like my pen
is like you can just speak comfortably
you can use like if you want yeah you
can use uh informal
yeah you can speak to me informally if
you want yeah just comfortably yeah but
then a lot of times like they'll be
uncomfortable
yeah yeah so i'm just like i mean like
well whatever makes you comfortable you
know yeah whatever
part of the korean culture i i also
think because of that hierarchy
when someone feels like they're lower
they kind of dance around
with their the point they're trying to
get across a lot of the time so like say
like i don't like
um the cup you chose but we're trying to
sell this right
you chose a pink cup i like the boot cup
i'll say
everything i can without telling you you
don't like the
i don't like the pink cup as i say
everything else
yeah beating around the bush they beat
around the bush a lot out here but it's
a
that's also a sign of respect i think
just because it's like if you're too
forward it's like right right right yeah
like
slow your roll cowboy i don't think this
is seen as rude in korea but
they just don't really do it but it's
like you know in america i feel like
just like
uh meet what you call if you like see
someone like eye to eye like you just
like kind of like give them like another
reading or something like that but then
in korea you're like oh it's like oh and
that's here and they're like
yeah like do you do you know me
do you know me yeah i got that
like when i first came to korea i
remember i went to penny john
and then um i held the door open for
someone
and they were like oh have i seen you
somewhere before yeah
no no no what and then did they ask you
why you kept the door open
no there was like and they just walked
in there wasn't even a thank you they
were like
oh i just walked in i was like you're
welcome yes yeah
and then one time was like at you know
how the malls
they have those like the makeup stands
like on the first floor
oh yeah yeah we were like walking past
and then i
saw someone like at the one of the
makeup stands yeah we met i saw so i was
just going nails here and then
my friend was like how do you know that
yeah and i was like i don't know that
i was like why did you say hi and i was
like i met heisenberg
oh you're a really strange kid i was
like i was like
what the why no
i feel like it has a lot to do with
space
like personal space yeah oh not really
personal space
just the amount of land like how big the
land is
so america is really really big right
you don't
the the amount of times that you run
into someone
isn't as frequent as if you would be in
korea because especially in gangnam
because you're
walking around every day you're taking
public transportation and you're very
near them and if the public
transportation is even more packed
you're like
shoulder to shoulder type thing but like
what's crazy to me
is if it was like that in the states
we'd all be like
you know like oh like either high or
like oh damn like you know
like we'd be very expressive of how
we're feeling at that time
but korea is just like i was just like
minding my own business
it was crazy ah you know what i heard
new zealand right
i don't know if it's new zealand or
somewhere else their houses are like
five minutes apart
so what they do when they take a walk
and they run into each other they have
like a 20-minute conversation
i don't want that yeah okay i don't know
if i want like a 20 year i'm okay
but you guys see how like human
interaction is so
like yearned for when you're in like in
new zealand new zealand but here it's so
it's so close that like we're just like
rather
you know i mean yeah so i feel like it's
a space thing almost
but i mean i don't know like there's
that many more people in america too
though you know it's like
true but if you think about it public
transportation out here and then
transportation out there like the amount
of
miles you have to go in between it's
much
much less compact i feel like depending
on what event you're at
that's just how i imagine like for
everyday type stuff maybe maybe
but like i i liked it when i came to
korea because people
don't make small stuff because i never
really got you know going to a
restaurant or going to a bar and someone
starts talking to you
just like not in a creepy way but like
oh hey how's it going you know what are
you up to you know
and they start making small talk because
i'm really bad at that like i'm usually
just reacting like
oh i see that's the introverted you huh
yeah so i'm like trying
i'm like pretending to look on my phone
and they'll be like oh yeah so what
phone do you have oh when did you get
that
people it's like when the waiter or
waitress is like oh enjoy your meal
you're like yeah you too
hey
so i'm really bad at small talk and in
korea you really don't have
that um yeah i feel like
maybe um the elderly kind of you know
like making small talk but i feel like
that's because they're
a little more lonely um and i don't mind
that small conversation because i think
it's
fun i think it's funny and um you know
it's entertaining and i like hearing
from them but then
i don't know random people coming up to
you and like striking up a conversation
with you that gives me anxiety because
i'm like oh my god please don't make eye
contact with me please don't say hi to
me i'm just like please don't
yeah i thought you were pretty
extroverted i mean i am extroverted with
my friends but with strangers i'm just
like
yeah she wasn't very open when i first
met her either we didn't have like a
conversation yeah i hate i don't know i
don't know
i guess i'm like that too though yeah
really
to a certain extent like if it's small
talk trying to be made
i'll respond and i'll like see where it
goes but like you know
i'd rather you not yeah yeah i guess i
guess
dude and the drinking culture in korea
is completely completely different there
are so many things you have to learn
and you get bashed on if you don't know
the drinking
like yeah manners yeah you have to like
look away you have to get the drink with
both hands
yeah you have to pour with like both
hands
if the poor for for the elder
eldest first yeah so that's what they
say it's really important who you learn
drinking from because you gotta
get the basic right i don't know the
basics
well you don't drink so you don't even
have to know but put me a drink i don't
know what that is
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yeah so when i filmed the wine talk
video with joan yeah oh you know we're
drinking wine together and
i noticed well i didn't notice because
it was such a natural thing for me but
i saw a comment saying that when we uh
cheers we both look away and drink and
people are like oh my gosh that's bad
luck in our country you're supposed to
look each other in the eye when you
drink
yeah because i feel like that's kind of
awkward too you won't find
love or something like if you don't if
you look away
when you drink you gotta just like look
at them in the eye
that's very
i don't even know why we turn away when
we're friends like we don't have to turn
away technically
right yeah i think it is i don't know
for sure but i feel like it's just
alcohol is something that you can't do
at a young age right it's something
that's considered like you have to be
mature
yeah so it's like i don't know is it
is it because alcohol is like somewhat
dirty or something like is it like
tainting your body is that why you
i don't even know what do you think it
is
why do you think you have to face away
when you drink in korea yeah maybe it's
because of the face you make afterwards
yeah don't make faces look away
yeah ah that makes sense that could make
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