howdy folks Kirk and Jason here with Kirk Giordano plastering, today we're doing an
interesting little project what we're doing is repairing some efis they installed new windows
and I don't blame them because they want to take advantage of that gorgeous view here now we are
and beautiful Alameda, man if I had that view I'd stick some windows into a little bit more
and it's just gorgeous to see San Francisco, and it just poured down rain fortunately it dried up
and the Sun came out anyway what we got here is we got an efis system what is an efis system
it's a styrofoam system, meaning this styrofoam so I thought let's say well gee Kirk how you're
gonna what do you recommend as far as fixing this that's a number of ways whatever is in the prints
will do he said there's no prints you just do it your way I thought okay well there's a lot
of ways and generally Jay and I will go we'll cut this stuff with a saw and we'll put new pieces of
efis and it's styrofoam well but it here but because we only have such a little bit because
what we're doing is we're we're using the same system they have and what they have is styrofoam
these molds are going to go around here so to cut this out and just use a little bit of foam
there it's kind of goofy doesn't make much sense so what we have done is fortunately the fellows
who did the window here did an excellent job they installed the window and they kept the original
lath intact course the filling a 10 year old house so it's perfect condition they put their flashing
in and they use the peel and stick this stuff is great great perfect it's a peeling stick so
they put the window in put the peel and stick put the peel and stick here here and they had great
existing paper because it's a 10 year old house so the the existing paper went to the window then
they put the photo flash we counted that flash with another two layers of paper so it's sort of
bullet proof a lot of folks say gee well can we do a patch with traditional stucco meaning the
scratching Brown when there's the efis here, of course, and they say I've heard this one
they say well don't doesn't a stucco need to be on the wire say and I said well it's on the wire
because of this particular system here you put the boards down the Efus or foam then you put this
17 gauge wire here on top of that then you only put a quarter-inch stucco on the real efis system
or the the original was driving that come from europe in 1950 and we did a lot of buildings with
that we did Kaiser hospitals when I was Union we we'd put the the styrofoam on first over the two
layers of paper then we put up a mesh it wasn't even wire it was a panzer, tanzer Hey Jay what's
that German tank's name? A panzer with a P yeah I'm a stucco guy, not a historian why they call it Panzer with a P
because the mesh was five to ten times as thick as this and we would we would put that mesh on
there and hit it with the like a poly bond and then put a finish coat that's all it took in
four high rises that was great guys why because for high-rises you want insulation but you don't
want a lot of weight because it's a high-rise, so it's good to do they do them on homes absolutely this
is a beautiful new home and of course they're using the same system anyway get back to what
we're doing we're just getting set up here we got quite a few windows to go so what I'm gonna do is
show you how we put this together now I just got these two little guys cuz I'm gonna use this we're
gonna put this these the new molds here but first I've got a I want to caulk this again because I
want to make sure this is bulletproof we already passed our last inspection which means hey air
raid we already passed the last inspection which means the city came out and they looked at that
and said hey great you're good guys go-ahead and install your mold so what Jay and I
are gonna do is I'm gonna first use a caulking here and seal all this one more time I'm gonna
stealing all real well one more time just for the heck of it then I'm going to use a polyurethane
it's just adhesive caulking and I'm gonna put it all around here the window frame because these
go on the adhesive caulking that gets an extra it gets adhered much better then we put some nails
through this stuff here stick it in there and we coat that we coat it with a poly bond we call it
coat the exterior with fiber when we get to that the stage we'll show you okay guys I got tongue-tied
there for a sec, Jay said well dad what about the mold here's the thing I wanted to say the the
molds now we're gonna put them on the paper and of course the styrofoam can go on the paper when
I was originally here the fella says well gee why don't we order inch styrofoam and I said well
we can't do that because they put the styrofoam on first and he says well how do you know and I said
well I can look at it and see it if you put this styrofoam here on this existing now look how much
room we got it stick my whole hand in here so if I have this in here I can't load the stucco into
nothing all the way around this whole window let alone all the rest of the windows we have to do so
we have to put these on first kind of like that window over there you see that so anyhow we're
gonna go ahead and install these guys first and when we get to the stage doing the cement we'll
show you how we do that it's quite simple okay guys we go from Polly bond which is to adhere
molds of course we're not adhering it on stucco but we also do our joints with Polly bond and make
sure you have mesh tape otherwise you can get a crack you're cleaning it here clean it here
clean it clean its foam sides and why do we use the Polly bond because it prevents cracking in all
these joints and you should have mesh tape there too I always like to use a bit of mesh tape myself
we switch from that then we switch to submit and I've done many many projects with the Efis
using stucco for patches cuz it's faster here's the one drag inch and a half in half with regular
stucco you have to go many many coats I'm using a what's called Eisen wall and it's not sold at
Home Depot or Lowe's maybe in the future about it what are the products they do sell there that is
made by the same exact company this rapid set now with this product, you can go six inches back to
back not just one path guys and I've showed this product many times what what we're really trying
to show here is we're doing six-seven different things today many windows and so this a little
dry but nothing we can't handle we got a lot of things going on in and trying to do this video
also but the mud I could make work no matter if it's a little dry if it's too soupy it's ideal
to have it just right but we are busy doing many many things okay so we're we're coming up here and
I want to go six inches thick on a particular product you never know I've done it many times
what we're doing a foundation and I always prefer this particular product and as soon as I've done
here what we really wanted to show you guys was no the repair using traditional stucco versus
the efis system because you can't always find the efis and a lot of people don't know how to do it
so I'm just doing it with this now the only drag is you got to go thick and many of you folks don't
know what products to use or if you don't know what product to use you could go with
rapid set at Home Depot and that product there you can go back-to-back just like this and it's made
by the same company it's just more user friendly there so we take that right like so and here's
where I'm going I'm going to do this side here next and the bottom which is 1/2 inch like and
keep in mind two guys this particular product dries in about 20 minutes right now the sun's
in our face but it's really cold now you can few minutes ago you see the breath coming out of our
mouth, so we tie this in here now; what I'm doing is this is a wet float. You have to use a wet float to
do this now it almost matches the same color and same texture but we don't have such luck we're
gonna have to - this - what does - mean well - is like like that all saying 1900s a - assault
well we - it when we get to that last stage we're going to dash it with a - brush in soupy mud which
is a color finish like this and then we knock it down this is a knockdown - you don't see any
trowel marks why because it's thrown on or blown on when we get to that stage next we'll we'll
show you but we got to get hustling and finish the rest of these windows because this mud waits
for no one you know guys sometimes wonder when we do these videos when I tell folks hey we're
doing a whole bunch of things today and they actually believe me we are doing a whole bunch
of things today and right now we're set up for this side so I figure I'll show you a little bit
about dashing because when we get to the other side Jason's got to hold a piece of paper as a
screen otherwise I've got to cover everything anyway guys we're going to show you really on
the other side what it's all about I just thought since I'm here and I had this mic hooked up I'll
show you a little bit more here that we've got a great video too so I'm hoping that the homeowners
have some margaritas for us afterwards we could sit by and watch the water watch the world go by
and you guys can do this with a hand hopper - in fact, hand hopper, would be ways if for
the average person, but there's 10 times as much covering can I do this with a brush you
betcha I've done this 15 or actually we've done about 15 houses all by hand like this
I'll complete homes by the end of the day you have spaghetti arms something I call crap
falling off called dashing - assault - you let it set and once it's set we knock it
down that just means you take a trial and hit it lightly when I get to the other side of my show,
yeah oh I'll show you how how to hit it with a cha to match knockdown - finish fun fun
fun getting late hopefully we have enough time before dark to actually show you that
another side all right guys I took an extra five minutes and now what we do is we knock
it down this is called a knockdown - earlier we dashed it, and now the trial is knocking
it down thus the name knockdown - and here we just see what the heck I'm doing here the week
okay to match this right here this is a knockdown - and what grade are we using anybody watching now
anybody watching care it is twenty thirty it's a twenty thirty grit that means it's the heaviest
sand that they sell what it what did I say oh okay good I let's scratch that off alright
anybody know what kind of sandwich is in here the grit anybody care this is what we call in
the trades a 16 2016 20 is the heaviest finish available that just means it's got it fats and
Santa Barbara is like silica Sam very fine then there's twenty-thirty which is the medium and that
is real close to this you couldn't it's tough for the average person to tell it apart but of course
we're professionals we can tell it apart there we go and now what I'm gonna do it now that I got to
finish we got all kinds of things going on here I'm gonna go ahead and pull this paper plastic
now when you pull in plastic best take your gloves off guys otherwise you'll jack up your own work
and what I want to do is pull underhand it and catch all of this because I will jack up my own
work if I do is it a big deal no no no because I can touch it up let's see here oh come on alright
that is good tape don't you love it when it just comes all off easily okay presto now they can sit
in the jacuzzi watch the sunset and watch the beach at the same time can't don't get any
better than that what we do is we just take our handy-dandy rag and clean off this mess clean off
the hands first by burns color coat has a lot of lye in it and that will eat your hands up anyway
my name is Kirk Jason on the camera we still got a couple windows that we have got to finish up
before dark so we'll call it a video we thank you, folks, for watching and as usual see you
guys on the next one once again folks we thank you for watching, and I really enjoy all your
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