EXPERIENCE AND TALENT OF YOUR LAWYER. WHO DO YOU WANT IN THE FIGHT OF YOUR LIFE? WELCOME
BACK. WE NOW MOVE OUR GOP
CANDIDATE CONVERSATIONS TO RYAN
KELLY, WHO JOINS ME VIA ZOOM
TODAY. AH GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH
ME HERE, RYAN. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE TIME I WOULD LIKE
TO START WITH THE FACT THAT WE
JUST FOUND OUT THIS PAST WEEK
THAT YOU WERE NAME IS GOING TO
APPEAR ON THE BALLOT AT THE
COURT OF CLAIMS MADE THAT
DECISION, BUT I THINK A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE WONDERING IF
ELECTIONS IN MICHIGAN ARE
DECIDED BY VOTERS IN THE MIDDLE,
AND THEY ALWAYS ARE. HOW WILL
VOTERS IN THE MIDDLE RESPOND TO
SOMEBODY LIKE YOU WHO WAS
INVOLVED IN WHAT HAPPENED AT THE
CAPITAL, JANUARY 6TH. GOOD TO BE
HERE WITH YOU DEVIN SCILLIAN TO
BE ABLE TO CONNECT. I THINK THIS
LAWSUIT THAT YOU MENTIONED THERE
A MINUTE AGO. WE EXPECTED THAT
OUTCOME AND YOU KNOW THESE
BASELESS CLAIMS AND ACCUSATIONS
THAT THEY MAKE AGAINST ME AND
REALLY SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT
THE LEFT DISAGREES WITH, YOU
KNOW, THE RIGHT DECISION WAS
MADE YES, FOR ON THE BALLOT. AND
THEN LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, THERE’S A LOT OF
ISSUES AND HARDSHIPS THAT
MICHIGANDERS ARE GOING THROUGH
RIGHT NOW AT THE PUMP AT THE
GROCERY STORE, THE LIST GOES ON
. WE STILL HAVE A RECORD HIGH
AUTO INSURANCE RATES, SO THE
PROBLEMS AND THE HARDSHIPS THAT
MICHIGAN RESIDENTS ARE DEALING
WITH PEOPLE AREN’T SITTING BACK
AND WORRIED ABOUT YOU KNOW,
JANUARY SIX, THAT’S NOT THE TOP
OF THEIR LIST. WE WANT TO FIND
SOLUTIONS. WE WANT TO GO THE
OTHER DIRECTION FROM WHERE THESE
DISASTROUS POLICIES ARE TAKING
US WITH THE BIDEN WHITMER
ADMINISTRATIONS. I THINK YOU’RE
RIGHT. I MEAN, THE ECONOMY IS
ALWAYS VERY TOP OF MIND. BUT AS
WE MOVE FORWARD YOUR NEXT
HEARING, I GUESS ON THIS MATTER
WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER. IT COULD
BE TOP OF MIND BY THEN. BUT I
GUESS TO THE BROADER QUESTION.
WE’VE DONE SOME RECENT POLLING
THAT SHOWS THAT EVEN REPUBLICAN
VOTERS BECAUSE WE PULLED ONLY
REPUBLICAN VOTERS THIS PAST WEEK
, AND EVEN THEY SEEM TO HOLD
DIFFERENT POLICIES IN DIFFERENT
IDEAS ON THE ISSUES THAN YOU AND
THE OTHER FOUR CANDIDATES BY AND
LARGE, THEY’RE IN FAVOR OF
ABORTION IN CASES OF RAPE AND
INCEST AND IN PROTECTING THE
LIFE OF THE MOTHER. BY AND
LARGE, THEY’RE IN FAVOR OF RED
FLAG LAWS AND BACKGROUND CHECKS
ON GUN OWNERSHIP. SO I GUESS I’M
WONDERING HOW ANY OF THE FIVE OF
YOU WILL TRY TO WIN OVER THE
MIDDLE, WHICH, AS I SAID, IS
WHERE ELECTIONS ARE WON AND LOST
IN THIS STATE. WE HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THE BALLOT
PROPOSAL THAT’S GOING TO BE ON
THE NOVEMBER ELECTION VALID WILL
BE ALLOWING ABORTIONS IF THIS
PASSES THAT ALLOW ABORTIONS UP
UNTIL THE TIME OF BIRTH, LATE
TERM ABORTIONS. NOW I HAVE A
HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT OVER
50% OF MICHIGAN RESIDENTS ARE
GOING TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT, IF THEY’RE TRULY
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY’RE VOTING
FOR. THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOPIC
THAT’S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED
WIDE AND FAR AND AS LONG AS WE
CAN EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHAT WHAT
THAT DECISION LOOKS LIKE FROM
MICHIGAN. I THINK THAT WE’RE
GOING TO BE WINNING A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN OUR CAMP, REALIZING
THAT WE CANNOT HAVE THESE
EXTREMIST IDEAS BE THE WAY THAT
MICHIGAN MOVES FORWARD AND IN
REGARD TO YOU KNOW THESE THESE
RED FLAG LAWS UPHOLDING THE
SECOND AMENDMENT, BUT MORE YOU
KNOW, MORE SPECIFICALLY TO OUR
STATE. ARTICLE ONE, SECTION SIX
OF THE MICHIGAN CONSTITUTION,
THE RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE AND
THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE MOST
VOTERS ARE GOING TO WANT TO SIDE
WITH. HERE. I ESPECIALLY IN
UNCERTAIN TIMES LIKE WE HAVE
THESE DAYS. MOST VOTERS OVERALL
IF YOU MOVE AWAY FROM
REPUBLICANS, MOST MICHIGAN UH
FOR INSTANCE, WOULD MOST VOTERS
WANT TO SEE, UH, ASSAULT WEAPONS
DONE AWAY WITH WHAT DO YOU DO
ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE IN NOT ONLY
MICHIGAN, BUT AMERICA. FIRST OF
ALL THIS CAME UP IN THE DEBATE
THE OTHER NIGHT THAT WE HAD WHEN
WE TALKED ABOUT ASSAULT WEAPONS,
RIGHT ASSAULT GUNS, AND THAT
THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS THAT
RIGHT ASSAULT IS AN ACTION. IT’S
SOMETHING THAT YOU DO. IT’S NOT.
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT WEAPONS,
THOUGH, THAT CAN THAT CAN FIRE A
LOT OF ROUNDS AT ONE TIME. I
THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE
DIFFERENCE. YEAH BUT BUT WORDS
MATTER AND THAT’S WHERE WE DON’T
LET PEOPLE MANIPULATE AND
PRETEND THAT THESE WEAPONS ARE
ASSAULT WEAPONS THAT THE PERSON
DOES SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEM.
THAT’S AN ACTION THAT THEY TAKE
YOU CAN MAKE. YOU CAN DO A LOT
OF DAMAGE WITH VEHICLES, FOR
EXAMPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE
MUST LOOK AT THE WORDING ON
THAT. FIRST OF ALL, SECOND OF
ALL, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HERE
IN OUR STATE ADDRESSING THESE
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, I THINK IS
VERY IMPORTANT. AND REMEMBER
THAT THE GOVERNMENT IN MOST
INSTANCES IS THE PROBLEM AND NOT
THE SOLUTION, LEANING ON FAITH
BASED COMMUNITIES AND FINDING
OTHER METHODS IN AVENUES IN
ORDER TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH
TO INDIVIDUALS IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE
HAVE A BIG PROBLEM IN OUR STATE
AND OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, WITH
THAT ISSUE MORE SO THAN THE
ACTUAL GUN ISSUES AND YOU KNOW,
ABORTION CLAIMS MORE LIVES EVERY
YEAR THAN GUNS, GUN RELATED
CRIMES I LET ME ASK YOU
SOMETHING THAT I MENTIONED
EARLIER. I WANT TO HELP
REPUBLICAN VOTERS TRY TO DISCERN
THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN YOU
AND THE OTHER GOP CANDIDATES.
WHY DON’T YOU DRAW THIS
DISTINCTION FOR ME? NONE OF YOU
REALLY HAVE ANY LEGISLATIVE OR
GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE. WHERE
WOULD YOU SAY THAT WHAT
SEPARATES YOU YOU’VE SPENT MOST
OF YOUR LIFE WORKING IN REAL
ESTATE. HOW DOES THAT PREPARE
YOU FOR THE GOVERNOR’S OFFICE?
WHERE DO YOU SEPARATE YOURSELF
FROM THE OTHER FOUR CANDIDATES.
THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. ONE OF
THE BIGGEST COMPONENTS OF THOSE
THAT SHOULD BE LEADING OUR STATE
AND IN OUR COUNTRY IS THE
COURAGE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
WE’VE SEEN SO MUCH CORRUPTION
NOT HERE IN MICHIGAN, BUT
NATIONALLY, WE’VE SEEN SO MANY
SPECIAL INTEREST DEALS AND EVEN
THE WORD BIPARTISANSHIP AND A
LOT OF WAYS MEANS THAT YOU KNOW,
THERE’S AN EMOTIONAL DRIVER THAT
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ARE
WORKING TOGETHER, BUT USUALLY
WHO WINS ON THOSE BIPARTISAN
DEALS IS THE POLITICIANS AND THE
SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. I
TALKED ABOUT THE MACKINAW POLICY
CONFERENCE, OFTEN WHERE I WENT,
THERE WAS 10 CANDIDATES IN THE
GOVERNOR’S RACE. I WAS ONE OF
THE FIVE THAT WAS INVITED UP TO
THE ISLAND. TO DEBATE. IT’S A
THREE DAY EVENT THERE FOR THAT
MACKINAW POLICY CONFERENCE
REQUIRED VACCINE IDENTIFICATION
CARDS OR NEGATIVE COVID TESTS TO
COME TO THE ISLAND OR TO COME TO
THE EVENT. EXCEPT FOR THE
GOVERNOR’S DEBATE. THEY MOVED
THAT OUTSIDE, THEY SEGREGATED
ALL OF THE CANDIDATES OUTSIDE
AND I TOLD HIM THAT I’M
DECLINING MY INVITATION UNLESS
THEY REMOVE ALL THE COVID
REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL ATTENDEES
NOW. THEY DIDN’T. THEY TOOK ME
OFF THE LIST OF INVITED GUESTS
AND I ASKED THE OTHER CANDIDATES
TO BOYCOTT THAT EVENT WITH ME
AND JOHN ADAMS SAID, STAND ON
PRINCIPLE, EVEN IF YOU STAND
ALONE, SO WITH THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN ME AND THE OTHER
CANDIDATES IS THE POLICIES THAT
I’M TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGES
THAT I WANT TO SEE. I ACTUALLY
TAKE THE ACTIONS THAT ALIGN WITH
THOSE THINGS NOW, AND IT’S NOT A
HEY ELECT ME AND I’LL DO THESE
THINGS. I’M FIGHTING FOR THESE
THINGS RIGHT NOW WITH MY
ACTIONS, AND THAT’S VERY, VERY
VISIBLE TO THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE
STATE. YOU EVEN RECENTLY
REFUSED. AH ONE OF THE DEBATES
TO FILL OUT A FORM ABOUT WHETHER
OR NOT YOU HAD ANY COVID
SYMPTOMS. I MEAN, DON’T WE HAVE
TO TAKE SOME KIND OF MEASURES TO
ENSURE PUBLIC HEALTH WHEN WE’VE
GOT SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS
COVID 19 STILL RUNNING AROUND
AND KILLING PEOPLE? IS IT,
THOUGH? THAT’S THE QUESTION WE
GET ALL OF THESE FAKE NUMBERS.
WE GET ALL THIS MANIPULATION
FROM THE MEDIA 1000
MICHIGANDERS. YEAH AND WE SEE
THAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE MIS
REPORTED. YOU KNOW, DRINKING AND
DRIVING CAUSES A LOT OF ISSUES,
TOO. I DON’T SEE ANYBODY GOING
AND ATTACKING ALCOHOL SALES AND
GOING AFTER THAT, AND HERE’S THE
THING IS THAT, UM YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE SOMEWHERE
WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND
FREEDOMS BECAUSE WHAT’S NEXT?
YOU KNOW, WE’RE GONNA SHOW OUR
PAPERS FOR IF WE’RE ANY HIV
SYMPTOMS OR, YOU KNOW, THERE’S
SOME SORT OF NEW THING TO HELP
WITH SAFETY. SO WHERE DO YOU
DRAW THE LINE? I MEAN THIS KID
THIS PERPETUATES IF WE DON’T PUT
AN END TO IT RIGHT NOW, AND I’M
AFRAID I GOT TO PUT IT INTO OUR