Ooh.
Do we have enough sex?
Enough sex?
Is there ever enough sex?
I don't feel like I'm missing out.
I don't feel like-
I knew you're going to say that.
No, but
I don't feel like I'm
missing out on anything.
There aren't necessarily times
where I'm like: dammit.
If only we have had sex.
I think that
you know, in taking the long view,
there's going to be plenty of opportunity
for me to screw up.
And for us to have sex.
For me to screw up, too.
Well, And for you to have sex.
And for me to say no to sex,
which I've never done.
You're allowed to, though.
You're allowed to do that.
It's not some patriarchal thing
where it's like...
What do you remember
about the first time we met?
I remember
that I was going to be the cool one
because it just seemed more natural.
And then I spilled a drink.
Really? - That's what I remember.
All right.
I can't believe that that's what came to
my mind first.
That's not the first thing I remember.
I would not
have probably thought of that.
I don't know
what my answer would have been.
I don't know.
It would have been awkward.
It was all awkward.
It was very awkward the first time.
You kept saying that.
Oh, you ready for this?
I guess.
What are you hesitant to tell me?
What am I hesitant to tell you?
Right now or ever?
I'm going to say ever.
I'm going to go ahead and make that call.
Hmm.
I don't know.
It's always difficult to tell you...
Difficult if not impossible
to tell you if something that you've done
has bothered me.
Like what? - And that might be me.
It might not be you. - Give me an example.
It might be my perception of you.
I can't think of one right off the
Top of my head. - 'Cause I'm a ball buster. - A little bit.
- No, I'm not! - A little bit. Let's be honest.
This is all about honesty.
I think that
sometimes you'll do something,
and I'll be like, oh,
I don't agree with that.
But it's not worth it for me to
have that conversation.
Interesting.
Because it's usually not anything big.
It's usually not anything that I need
to have a conversation about.
It's like, usually stuff like,
should just let that go, kid.
Okay. - That's it.
It's interesting. - Makes sense, huh?
Kind of, yeah. - Okay.
When do you feel closest to me or
closest to me?
Um.
This is
really weird too, but I feel like
when I do something,
like, work out and tell you about it
or have a hard day and tell you about it
because there's no one else in my life.
Like, I talk about my mom and
I talk about my family.
I talk about
trips and all that with my friends.
But you're the only one
I talk about, like mundane...
I had a hard workout.
So stupid.
No, but do you feel close to me
when you tell me about it
or do you feel close to me
when you're going through it?
No, when I'm telling you about it,
like I find myself
wanting to call you
and tell you about it.
And then- afterward, I think. That was- - Okay.
Like that's when I started knowing that
it was like, oh, this might be...
When you could complain to me
about your day. Okay.
No, I- Agreed, agreed.
No, that's good. - Yeah.
I mean, other than right now,
I feel really close to you, right?
We have this table here. - That's fine.
It's like a jailhouse.
I feel like I've done something bad. - Oh! We
should have, like,
a- I should be on the phone.
It's my turn. - Oh, I'm sorry.
I think. Right? Yeah. Hmm.
I don't want to ask this but I'm going to.
Okay.
Do you want to marry me?
This has all been a trick.
It's all been a trick.
Your mom's going to be jumping out.
Like I knew it. - Where's the ring?
They're going to play that
Bruno Mars song.
It's going to come out like now.
Bullshit. Um, do I want to? - Cue the music!
See? I knew it.
I would jump out the window, I think.
Do I want to?
It's a thought.
I know.
You know, we've had a discussion
is that- it's not something I need.
Like, there's no
religious reason to do it.
It's not for the children.
It's not for.
You know, my mother doesn't give a shit.
No one's
going to pressure me into marrying you.
I-
Do I want to?
I'm pretty sure that was the question.
Do you want to marry me?
Yeah, I would.
I mean, it's going to sound.
It's such a pretentious question,
and people get so tied up in it,
and it's like a magic moment,
but I would. Sure.
I mean, I don't have any pressure
either way.
Like, I'm not afraid of it.
I can totally see it happening,
but I don't know what my reasoning for
it would be.
It is interesting
because we talked about.
But I would also need to know
going into it that you would want to.
Before you propose?
Yeah. Yeah.
Already spent the money on the ring.
Yeah.
Well, all that aside,
not even the proposal of the rings,
I just wouldn't-
I would need to know that it was,
you know,
something that you would want as well.
How has our relationship
changed in the last year
since Round One?
Well, well, we're engaged.
We live together.
We have plans for the future in place.
At that point, it was
I guess it was still
it was two years ago that we were here.
And, yeah, I feel like life has changed.
Perspectives have changed.
As far as our relationship goes,
we've just grown together
as those changes have
taken place.
Okay. - Yeah.
Agreed. - Yeah.
I mean, I-
I'd like to say that
I saw this all in the future.
Like when I was sitting there
the first time. - Really?
I saw this all happening
or at least I saw the potential of it.
But I don't know,
I think I was maybe just, you know,
working towards
just maintaining what we had at the time.
Okay. - Like,
I get stuck in contentment
where I'm like, hey, this is good.
What we have right here is good.
Let's just not ruin this.
I mean, mainly talking to myself
when I say that,
like, don't fuck anything up.
Fair.
And so far, so good.
So far.
Onwards and upwards.
Well, there's always that.
Oh, here we go,
how do you really feel about the wedding?
What's your biggest fear
regarding the wedding?
My biggest fear regarding
the wedding
is the same fear
that I have with our whole relationship,
the aforementioned.:
Am I going to screw something up?
What am I going to do that's going to-
that's going to screw this up or what
outside thing will happen? Like what-
You know, unknown about love,
child is going to show up
on our doorstep.
And I'm not saying
that it's ever going to happen.
There's no reality of that.
But that's where my head goes, like,
what if I trip and fall
and then your dress is ruined?
Or, you know,
I don't have any stress whatsoever
about the actual marriage.
Oh, what do
the next two years look like for us?
So much fun.
That's my first, like, thought,
so much fun.
So the next two years, the next
three months: wedding planning, wedding.
Best wedding ever.
And then a few months of
Living in that bliss?
Yes.
I think that bliss is actually going
to help us get through.
And I mean us, both of us
get through the fact that we're about
to have a huge change. - Okay.
And then in the fall,
leaving it all behind
and having an adventure,
I've never had with anybody.
I think so many couples get married.
And then, like,
the next step is
we're going to buy a house.
And that's so exciting.
For them or,
oh, it's time to start
getting ready to have kids.
And that's so super exciting for them.
And I think the fact that we're
not doing either of those
but that we're going to be taking a trip
wherever, not wherever the wind blows us,
but in a way
like I think we'll have a plan.
And it's something
I never thought
I would see myself doing ever.
Like, I always thought,
I'm going to graduate college.
I'm going to get a great job,
I'm going to make good money,
and then I'm going to
have this great life.
And it's sort of like: I graduated college.
I got the job.
I ticked off
all the checkmarks for my career.
And then now I'm like,
I don't want to do this anymore.
And to have someone with me
that's like: yeah, I don't really either.
Let's change it up.
Let's blow it up. - Yeah.
It's kind of amazing.
What has changed for us
since our last session?
And how do you feel about it?
We got married, we quit our jobs.
Yes. - We were jobless for a year.
We traveled well,
I want to say the world, but we didn't.
I always say the world too.
I know, we didn't.
And then people are like,
oh, did you go to Asia?
No. Did you go to Africa?
No. Did you go to Antarctica? No.
So we went to Europe.
We went to all of the United States
except... - Kentucky. - Utah, Alaska,
and Hawaii. - Yep.
And now we're putting our lives
back together in New York.
That's a lot.
No, we did a lot.
A lot has happened. - Yeah.
What have I done that surprised you
the most in the past year?
My biggest shock and surprise,
honestly,
I don't even have to think about it, is
when we went on this trip
and your openness to not know
what we were going to do
from one day to the next.
That surprised you?
Surprised, shocked, amazed.
I told you that.
You said you're going to work on it,
but you also set it up to say, like,
I'm going to try this.
But because
one thing I know about you
is that you don't like to be bored.
You don't like to feel like
you're waiting for something to happen.
You don't want to waste your time.
Everything has to be in your calendar
and there were definitely days where
it was like a Tuesday in,
I don't know, Vienna,
where we would wake up
and have no idea
what we were going to do.
And I mean, that's my life.
Like, I love that because who knows?
We could do things, we could do anything,
or we could do
we could just have a sandwich
and do nothing.
I think when we were together for a while
and it was looking like
we were going to get married,
and then once we got married,
I think people were just waiting
for us to say, Oh, we bought a house,
we're going to start.
When are you going to-
I mean, we still get people asking
when we're going to start having kids.
like when are you going to start doing
the thing
that everyone's supposed to do
now that they've gotten married?
I also
so many people
just assume that you know,
you're going to have kids
because that's the next step that you do.
And people who are close to us know this.
And I don't mind saying it
because I'm in a time in my life
when I don't care anymore.
I- you know, I physically can't have kids.
And we have made the choice
that we don't want to adopt, adopt.
We don't want kids.
We have made- through loads of discussions
and many tears and many
talks with other people,
and thoughts... is not our path.
What is one experience
you wish us to have together?
Oh,
I
this is weird
that this is coming out,
coming in to my brain first.
I mean, I would love for us
to travel and work together
but that's- we've done that.
I want us to do it more. - Sure.
I- we've talked about this
some already, but
and maybe this is because
the guys are
going through this right now.
But I know we don't want to adopt, but
I am very interested in the future,
not-
soon future,
but maybe a little distant future.
I am looking forward
to opening up
our home to like foster teenagers.
I'm looking into that more.
Yeah.
I think that would be really cool
to do with you
and something I would never do on my own.
Sure.
Or anyone else.
But
or with anyone else.
But yeah, I think we would be really
good at that.
We're a great team and
yeah, that is something
I would like to do with you.
Okay.
Same, I think. Yeah.
I think you'd be better at that
than I would.
And I think
you would think I would be better than
you would.
And I think together we'd just be fine
or better than we all think we are.