>> Devin: IT’S BEEN A MYSTERY
FOR 11 YEARS, FOUND DEAD IN THE
DETROIT RIVER, SOME 70 DAYS
AFTER DISAPPEARING FOLLOWING A
CHURCH SERVICE SHE ATTENDED IN GROSSE POINTE FARMS.
GROSSE POINTE FARMS.
POLICE BELIEVE SHE WALKED INTO
LAKE ST. CLAIR AND KILLED
HERSELF.
THE FAMILY BELIEVES IT WAS
MURDER. >> SHE SAID, IF SOMETHING EVER
>> SHE SAID, IF SOMETHING EVER
HAPPENS TO ME, LOOK TO HIM.
>> Devin: THEIR MOTHER GOT INTO
A FIGHT CAN TIM MATOOK, AND THEY POINTED THE FINGER AT HIM.
POINTED THE FINGER AT HIM.
TIM HAS KEPT QUIET FOR YEARS.
BUT TONIGHT, IT ALL CHANGES.
>> I WANNA COME OUT WITH MY
SIDE.
>> Devin: TOPPING OUR NEWS AT 6:00, HE SAID HE’S BEEN A VICTIM
6:00, HE SAID HE’S BEEN A VICTIM
OF A WITCH HUNT AND THAT IT IS
RUINING HIS LIFE AND REPUTATION. >> Kim: THE 64-YEAR-OLD HAS
>> Kim: THE 64-YEAR-OLD HAS
NEVER BEEN ARRESTED OR CHARGED
DESPITE HIS NAME HAS BEEN
BROUGHT UP AS A PERSON JOANNE
FEARED AND IT HAS CAUSED A LOT
OF CONTROVERSY. "DEFENDER" KAREN DREW SAT DOWN
"DEFENDER" KAREN DREW SAT DOWN
WITH TIM TO GET HIS VERSION OF
THE MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF JOANNE MATOOK ROMANE.
MATOOK ROMANE.
WAS IT MURDER OR SUICIDE?
DID HE EVERY THREATEN HER? THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I ASKED
THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I ASKED
THAT WE’VE BEEN WAITING 11 YEARS
TO ASK.
WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO TALK? >> NOW THAT THE LAWSUITS ARE
>> NOW THAT THE LAWSUITS ARE
OVER AND THERE’S NOTHING MORE
FOR ME OTHER THAN TRYING TO
CLEAR MY NAME.
>> Karen: HE IS AN INVESTIGATOR
FOR PROSECUTOR KYM WORTHY’S
OFFICE AND HAS BEEN IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT FOR MORE THAN THREE DECADES.
WHEN JOANN DIED, HE WAS A HARPER
WOODS POLICE OFFICER AT THE
TIME.
>> SO TELL ME ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH JOANN MATOOK.
RELATIONSHIP WITH JOANN MATOOK.
>> I’VE ALWAYS HAD A GOOD
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER.
>> Karen: HE SAID HIS REPUTATION
WAS TARNISHED BECAUSE OF ACCUSATIONS BY HER CHILDREN.
ACCUSATIONS BY HER CHILDREN.
>> I MADE THE PHONE CALL AND
ASKED WHY WOULD YOU STHA?
>> Karen: THE PHONE CALL
HAPPENED A FEW WEEKS BEFORE JOANN DIED.
JOANN DIED.
AND THEY REMEMBER IT WELL.
>> WE HEARD YELLING. WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?
YOU NEED TO -- I TOLD YOU TO
KEEP YOUR NOSE OUT OF EVERYONE’S
BUSINESS. >> Karen: JOANN HUNG UP.
>> Karen: JOANN HUNG UP.
>> IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, LOOK TO
TIM.
>> Jason: SHE NEVER GAVE
SPECIFIC DETAILS BUT WAS
WORRIED.
WEEKS LATER, JOANN WOULD BE DEAD.
TIM SAID IT WAS A FIGHT OVER HER
BROTHER JOHN WHO HAS A CRIMINAL
RECORD WRITING CHECKS FOR
INSUFFICIENT FUNDS. >> I SAID, WHY WOULD YOU GO
>> I SAID, WHY WOULD YOU GO
AROUND TELLING PEOPLE THAT I’M
THE REASON WHY JOHN MATOUK HAS
SO MANY PROBLEMS? SHE RESPONDED SHE DIDN’T WANT TO
SHE RESPONDED SHE DIDN’T WANT TO
TALK TO ME, AND THAT I WAS A
TROUBLEMAKER AND HUNG UP THE
PHONE.
THE CONVERSATION COULDN’T HAVE
LASTED MORE THAN A MINUTE. I’VE NEVER DONE NOTHING TO HER
I’VE NEVER DONE NOTHING TO HER
AND NEVER DONE NOTHING TO HIM.
APPARENTLY THEIR FEELING WAS, MY
INVOLVEMENT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
MUST HAVE BEEN THE REASON. I DON’T KNOW.
I DON’T KNOW.
OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN’T EXPLAIN
IT.
>> Karen: NOW TO THE NIGHT JOANN
WENT MISSING THE NIGHT OF OF
2010. WHAT WERE YOU DOING?
WHAT WERE YOU DOING?
>> I WAS ON DUTY WORKING WITH
THE MICHIGAN STATE NARCOTICS
TASK FORCE.
I WAS IN THE CITY OF WARREN.
>> Karen: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE
FAMILY WHO SAYS YOU WERE WORKING THAT DAY BUT YOU WERE ON A RADIO
THAT DAY BUT YOU WERE ON A RADIO
AND NO ONE SAW YOU, YOU COULD BE
BASICALLY ANYWHERE IN THE STATE
ON ONE OF THOSE RADIOS? >> WELL, IT’S PRETTY FARFETCHED.
>> WELL, IT’S PRETTY FARFETCHED.
FIRST OFF, I WOULD NEVER RISK MY
JOB OVER THAT.
I WOULD NEVER LEAVE MY PARTNERS VULNERABLE.
>> THERE WAS NO -- IF SOMEONE
WAS, YOU KNOW, SHIRKING THEIR
RESPONSIBILITIES OR TRYING TO
SNEAK OUT --
>> Karen: BILL HANGER WAS THE LIEUTENANT FOR MICHIGAN STATE
LIEUTENANT FOR MICHIGAN STATE POLICE WHO OVERSAW MATOUK’S UNIT
POLICE WHO OVERSAW MATOUK’S UNIT
AND NEVER SAW HIM THAT NIGHT BUT
SAYS HE DOESN’T BELIEVE HE
WASN’T ON DUTY. HE MADE 21 CALLS FROM WARREN THE
HE MADE 21 CALLS FROM WARREN THE
NIGHT JOANNE WENT MISSING.
HOW IMPORTANT ARE THE PHONE
RECORDS?
>> VERY IMPORTANT.
IT TELLS THE WHOLE STORY FOR ME. >> Karen: HE WANTS THE
>> Karen: HE WANTS THE
ACCUSATIONS TO STOP.
>> IT’S A CONSTANT ABUSE, A
CONSTANT HARASSMENT.
YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WANT TO CLEAR MY NAME.
I WANT TO CLEAR MY NAME.
>> Karen: BUT REMEMBER, THE CASE
IS STILL NOT CLOSED. FROM YOUR GUT, WAS JOANN
FROM YOUR GUT, WAS JOANN
MURDERED, OR DID SHE KILL
HERSELF?
>> IN MY OPINION, ONE SET OF
FOOTPRINTS GO DOWN TO THE WATER, THAT SAYS A LOT.
THAT SAYS A LOT.
NONE RETURN.
WHETHER SHE WENT DOWN THERE FOR
WHATEVER REASON AND SLEPT AND FELL IN, WHO KNOWS?
FELL IN, WHO KNOWS?
>> Karen: THERE’S A LOT OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FOOTPRINTS
AND THE CRIME SCENE.
OUR INTERVIEW AND THE QUESTIONS
YOU WANT ASKED CONTINUES TONIGHT
AT 10:00, SO JOIN US FOR
"DATELINE DETROIT," SECRETS OF A
SMALL TOWN.
WE’VE TRACKED DOWN A POLICE
OFFICER WHO HAS NEVER SPOKEN ON
THE CASE AND WE HAVE NEW
EVIDENCE NOT SHARED TO THE PUBLIC.
AND VIDEO WHICH WILL LEAVE YOU
ASKING, DID GROSSE POINTE FARMS
POLICE DO ALL THEY SHOULD HAVE
DONE IN THIS INVESTIGATION?
I’LL SEE YOU BACK HERE AT 10:00 TONIGHT FOR "DATELINE DETROIT."
TONIGHT FOR "DATELINE DETROIT."
BACK TO YOU.
>> Devin: REALLY LOOKING FORWARD
TO TONIGHT’S PROGRAM.
>>> LET’S MOVE TO THE LATEST ON THE CORONAVIRUS AS THE CASE
THE CORONAVIRUS AS THE CASE
COUNT HAS SLOWED OVER THE LAST
21 DAYS.
>> Kim: 2231 CASES, AND THAT’S A TWO-DAY TOTAL AND LOST 20
TWO-DAY TOTAL AND LOST 20
MICHIGANDERS IN THE LAST 48
HOURS.
MORE THAN 755,000 PEOPLE IN
MICHIGAN HAVE RECOVERED FROM
COVID-19. >> Devin: ON THE VACCINE FRONT,
>> Devin: ON THE VACCINE FRONT,
IF YOU WANT A SHOT, YOU HAVE A
LITTLE LESS THAN 2 1/2 HOURS.
TODAY IS THE LAST DAY FOR THEIR MASS VACCINATION EFFORT AND
MASS VACCINATION EFFORT AND
CLOSES AT 8:30 TONIGHT.
>> Kim: AS THE COUNTRY MOVES THROUGH THE NEXT PHASE OF
THROUGH THE NEXT PHASE OF
GETTING PEOPLE VACCINATED, MANY
ARE DISCUSSING THE SUDDEN SHIFT
ON WEARING MASKS AND LEFT MORE
QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.
SO WHO STILL NEEDS TO WEAR A MASK AND WHY.
MASK AND WHY.
DR. McGEORGE IS HERE TO HELP US
UNDERSTAND IT.
>> Dr. McGeorge: I NEED TO
STRESS, THE CDC GUIDELINES ARE FOR THOSE PEOPLE FULLY
FOR THOSE PEOPLE FULLY
VACCINATED.
PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, WE KNOW
THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE
GOING TO STOP WEARING MASKS EVEN
IF THEY AREN’T VACCINATED. AND THAT IS PART OF THE EQUATION
AND THAT IS PART OF THE EQUATION
FOR WHO STILL NEEDS TO MASK UP.
MASKS ARE STILL NEEDED INDOORS
FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FULLY
VACCINATED SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY’RE AT HIGHER RISK AND POSE
THEY’RE AT HIGHER RISK AND POSE
A HIGHER RISK FOR OTHERS.
>> THE SCIENCE IS ALSO VERY
CLEAR ABOUT UNVACCINATED PEOPLE. YOU REMAIN AT RISK OF MILD OR
YOU REMAIN AT RISK OF MILD OR
SEVERE ILLNESS, OF DEATH, OR OF
SPREADING THE DISEASE TO OTHERS.
>> Dr. McGeorge: EVEN SOME OHIO
ARE FULLY VACCINATED SHOULD CONSIDER WEARING A MASK INDOORS
CONSIDER WEARING A MASK INDOORS
OR IN CROWDS.
>> IF YOU’RE IMMUNE COMPROMISE,
YOU’LL WANT TO TALK TO YOUR
DOCTOR BEFORE GIVING UP YOUR
MASK.
>> Dr. McGeorge: INCLUDING TRANSPLANT RECIPIENTS, CANCER
TRANSPLANT RECIPIENTS, CANCER
PATIENTS, THOSE ON DIALYSIS OR
MEDICATIONS THAT SUPPRESS THE
IMMUNE SYSTEM.
IT MAY NOT BE AS EFFECTIVE IN THOSE WITH WEAKENED IMMUNE
THOSE WITH WEAKENED IMMUNE
SYSTEMS AND MAY NOT BE AS
PROTECTED AND AT HIGHER RISK OF
COMPLICATIONS IF THEY DO BECOME
INFECTED. AND IT’S ESSENTIAL FOR CHILDREN
AND IT’S ESSENTIAL FOR CHILDREN
UNDER 12 TO KEEP WEARING MASKS,
AS WELL.
>> WHEN THE CHILDREN GO OUT INTO
THE COMMUNITY, INDOOR OR CERTAIN
OUTDOOR SETTINGS, THEY SHOULD
WEAR A MASK IF THEY’RE
UNVACCINATED.
WHEN THEY OPEN THEM TO GET
VACCINATED, IT WILL BE THE SAME
AS ADULTS. >> Jason: WHILE KIDS ARE LESS
>> Jason: WHILE KIDS ARE LESS
LIKELY FOR COMPLICATIONS, IN
MICHIGAN, 138,000 CASES AND 12
DEATHS IN CHILDREN.
THIS MEANS MANY PARENTS MAY WANT TO CONTINUE WEARING MASKS AS
TO CONTINUE WEARING MASKS AS
WELL WHEN THEY’RE ALL WITH THEIR
CHILDREN, PARTICULARLY TO MODEL
THAT BEHAVIOR TO THEM.
A VACCINE IS NOT EXPECTED FOR CHILDREN UNDER 12 UNTIL THE
CHILDREN UNDER 12 UNTIL THE
START OF 2022.
>> Kim: I’M SURE YOU’RE FULLY
VACCINATED.
WHEN DO YOU PLAN TO STILL WEAR A
MASK? >> DEFINITELY IN THE HOSPITAL.
>> DEFINITELY IN THE HOSPITAL.
BASED ON HOW WELL MASKING
CRUSHED THIS YEAR’S FLU SEASON,
I’M PROBABLY GONNA ALWAYS WEAR
THEM IN THE HOSPITAL.
INDOORS, IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCAL REQUIREMENTS AND HOW CROWDED A
REQUIREMENTS AND HOW CROWDED A
PLACE IS FOR ME.
AND OUTDOORS, I DO NOT WEAR ONE
ANYMORE.
>> Kim: THANK YOU FOR SORTING IT
OUT FOR US. WE APPRECIATE IT.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> Devin: THE CITY OF DETROIT
ANNOUNCING WHO WILL STEP IN AS
THE INTERIM POLICE CHIEF.
>> Kim: JAMES WHITE, BORN AND REARED IN DETROIT AND SPENT 24
REARED IN DETROIT AND SPENT 24
YEARS WITH DPD INCLUDING 8 AT
ASSISTANT CHIEF.
HE LEFT LAST YEAR AND HE WILL BE TAKING OVER FOR CHIEF JAMES
TAKING OVER FOR CHIEF JAMES
CRAIG WHO SAYS WHITE IS A GREAT
CHOICE!
>> I WAS ALWAYS IMPRESSED WITH
JAMES AND I KNOW HE’S GONNA DO A
PHENOMENAL JOB. AND TALK ABOUT THE TRAJECTORY
AND TALK ABOUT THE TRAJECTORY
THAT WE SET IN THIS POLICE
DEPARTMENT, PURSUING EXCELLENCE,
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE PURSUIT IS GONNA CONTINUE.
IS GONNA CONTINUE.
I’M EXCITED FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
>> Devin: WHITE WILL FOLK
TUESDAY ON INCREASING PATROLS
AND ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY
ONCE HE TAKES OVER. >>> IT’S BEEN NEAR LAY YEAR
>>> IT’S BEEN NEAR LAY YEAR
SINCE THE FAILURE OF THE EATONVILLE AND SANFORD DAM.
EATONVILLE AND SANFORD DAM.
RESPECTS -- RESIDENTS WERE
FORCED TO START OVER.
LET’S BRING IN SHAWN LEY, THEY MAY HAVE TO WAIT A WHILE FOR
MAY HAVE TO WAIT A WHILE FOR
THIS TO BE RESOLVED.
>> Shawn: WOW, YOU HAVE TO BE
PATIENT AND YOU FEEL FOR THE FAMILIES.
THE DAMS ARE PRIVATELY OWNED BY
BOYCE HYDRO FACING 10,000
LAWSUITS AND SO MANY PEOPLE LOSING JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING,
LOSING JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING,
AND BOYCE HYDRO FILED FOR
BANKRUPTCY.
BEN JOHNSON EXPLAINED WHAT THAT
MEANS. >> WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE
>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE
LITIGATION, BOYCE IS GONE.
>> Shawn: THEIR DAMS FAILED AND THE DESTRUCTION WAS SIMPLY HARD
THE DESTRUCTION WAS SIMPLY HARD
TO BELIEVE, SO MANY LOSING
EVERYTHING AND THE VILLAGE OF
SANFORD WAS WIPED OUT. >> I LOVE MY -- I LOST MY HOUSE,
>> I LOVE MY -- I LOST MY HOUSE,
AND I WAS TRYING TO CONVINCE MY
NEIGHBOR TO GET OUT OR WE’RE
BOTH GOING TO DIE. >> Shawn: IT FILED FOR
>> Shawn: IT FILED FOR
BANKRUPTCY AND WILL LIKELY NEVER
HAVE TO PAY HOMEOWNERS.
ATTORNEY JOHNSON SAID VICTIMS
CAN SUE THE STATE OF MICHIGAN AND THE FEDERAL REGULATORY BODY
AND THE FEDERAL REGULATORY BODY
WHO KNEW THE DAMS WERE FAULTY.
BOYCE’S LICENSE WAS PULLED BUT
THE STATE OR FEDS DID NOT FORCE THEM TO FIX THEIR PROBLEMS.
THEM TO FIX THEIR PROBLEMS.
>> FAILURE OF THE EATONVILLE DAM
COULD RESULT IN THE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE AND THE DESTRUCTION
HUMAN LIFE AND THE DESTRUCTION
OF PROPERTY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> Shawn: AND THAT’S WHAT
HAPPENED NEARLY ONE YEAR AGO.
THEY’LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
TARGETS ON THE FEDS WITH WHAT THEY KNEW AND WHEN THEY KNEW IT,
THEY KNEW AND WHEN THEY KNEW IT,
AS WELL AS THE STATE OF
MICHIGAN.
JOHNSON ALSO SAYS HE IS TELLING
THE FAMILIES TO EXPECT BOTH TO
APPEAL, AND THAT WILL TAKE UP TO 3-4 YEARS.
3-4 YEARS.
SO ANYONE LOOKING FOR EXTRA HELP
TO REBUILD, THEY HAVE A LONG
WAIT.
BACK TO YOU. >> Devin: STILL MORE TO COME ON
>> Devin: STILL MORE TO COME ON
LOCAL 4 NEWS AT 6:00.
>> Kim: WE’RE GETTING A TASTE OF
SUMMER.
>> Ben: IF WE HAD 7 MORE DAYS
LIKE THIS, WE WOULD COSIGN THAT.
HOWEVER, I DARE YOU TO DREAM BIG.
WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THE NUMBERS
IN THE SEVEN-DAY FORECAST,
COMING UP.
>> Rod: YET ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL
VISIT TO MICHIGAN.
>> IT’S ABOUT HOW AMERICA WINS
THE FUTURE.
>> Rod: PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL BE
HERE TO TALK ABOUT ELECTRIC
VEHICLES AND YET SO MUCH MORE. WE’LL TELL WHAT YOU THAT IS.