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you're welcome welcome everyone we are here with our after show for episode four of the
idol which was titled Stars belong to the world a very perfect title for
tonight's episode because there were some stars and I'm gonna tell y'all right now
oh no Ted Rose don't do this to my best friend or one of my friends close friends since I was
a kid do this to him and all of a sudden she goes from don't hurt him to okay do
what you do go ahead punish him for hurting from hurting me a wolf and sheep's clothing you know
but we have the scene play out and tejos is shocking him trying to get the truth for hurting
Jocelyn and by hurting Johnson he's referring to why did you allow Johnson's mom manipulate
to beat her to take advantage of her why didn't you do anything I did do something I tried to do
something I try to speak up and the reason she would stop me and it goes even further
down is he says that his Johnson's mom made him sign a contract to stop singing Dawson's like
he's lying this that and the other but we find out y'all that it was Jocelyn that stunted his
career that put his career on hold that had her mom had him sign the contract because as he says
that she's in control of everything now this is the question I have for you all is by everything
do we think that Josh's mom was this big bad wolf in a state an extent that she was the one that
was forcing this Fame this lifestyle her daughter was beating abusing her daughter to get the talent
out of her daughter or do we think it was Jocelyn who dark stuff but like having her mom do all this
stuff beat me in front of these people to make it seem like I'm this young girl getting abused
by my mom but and in hindsight and behind closed doors she was telling her mom to do this to get
the best out of her this is some again man this is where the show like oh okay what's what's going
on here right some really twisted stuff man and then again the question is do you believe Xander
or do you believe Jocelyn by the end episode I got my answer but the question I have for y'all
is who do you believe and just to pose my Johnson I think she is the manipulator like and I've said
like again you can watch the tapes I said this I think a couple uh episode one I said that I feel
like Johnson there's more to her character like I think that she's I said it last week because she
poses to be kind of incompetent she poses to kind of pretend like she doesn't know what's going on
but she definitely knows what's going on Lily Depp is a really great actress good actress man and she
really is showing her chops in this show like I think that she's a really great actress because
when she sit when we see that switch we see that tear in her eye think about episode one the very
first scene of the show was her doing the photo shoot photographer you know laugh be sexy this
that and the third cry and she was able to do that at a drop of a dime she was able to switch
up her Persona switch up her personality switch up her attitude so quickly manipulating situations
that's some good stuff man and again that's why I say Billy Rose Depp is a really good actress and
she's really doing a good job in the show now in retrospect looking back at it Jocelyn allowed all
that stuff to be to to happen right she she doesn't allow anything to happen without it
going through her so I love that kind of reveal again it makes the audience thinks if he's lying
or if she's lying I think it's really good stuff man again I wish the show just would have done a
better job of uh handling that as that's happening Xander says you know she's even worse than her mom
and while he's saying that and again I'm not on his side by any means but I want y'all to
notice that Tedros is kind of surprised by this and I think what I mean by surprise is that he
has this the moment of like wait a minute have I been getting played this have I been getting
manipulated this whole time now I think he's dismissive about because he's like no no no no no
no no she ain't you know she ain't been playing me but I love that moment there man because he has a
moment of like kind of like wait a minute hold up has the player been getting played I'm not saying
he's a player I think he's terrible I'm just saying like in his mind he thinks he's a player
right but I love that stuff there man I really do it and it goes back to later in this episode when
he's on the steps with Johnson getting on with Mr Rob didn't feel bad for him but I'm like yes
hell yeah now you know what it feels like to be manipulated to be taken advantage of to be played
uh I love that scene so again the show at its moments has these great little character moments
Great Character beats nice little reveals um that it leads up to so I really enjoyed that scene a
lot guys and again the question in the comments I have for you all is you know who do you believe
do you believe Jocelyn you believe Xander look at that face there he goes on me like no team Jocelyn
I wrote for you all day she can do no wrong uh which is again the beauty of the show is
you can have people picking sides and falling in love with these characters but I don't think the
show's done a good enough job to do that look at that face when she tells Ted Jos again again again
it's some good stuff man it's some good stuff she's been the villain this whole time it's a
it's a lot of bull crap with this show but there's some there's some Diamond rough Isaac
tells Xander I feel bad for you I'm Gonna Let You Go and Pedro sees the talent in you
but she you have to do a favor for him I want y'all to remember that 17 year old Chloe she tells
Jocelyn how she came to the party because she's mad at you why would Jonathan why would she be mad
at me well because you're sleeping with her she didn't say man but you're sleeping with Tedros and
you know she was all upset because you guys are in this relationship that wasn't a part of the plans
because episode again guys go back to the tapes man I'm gonna give I'm gonna give myself a pat
on the back not that this show is the most complex show a lot of stuff is predictable I'm just saying
I said back in episode one I feel like that she said all this up with referring to Diane
she set up the club thing whatever and we already established that when it revealed that Diane and
and tattoos were in cahoots who's at episode three so episode 2. so as that's happening Jocelyn again
she goes from wait a minute I thought and this is the kind of I guess the The Twist
of the episode if you want to call it that is as a viewer and I'm gonna know in the comments
you all have a moment where you were like yes Johnson finally knows that tejos even though
again if we're playing into the idea that she was allowing him to think that he was controlling her
but she didn't know that he was sleeping with Diane and that Diane was setting her
up so like she thinks it's just like the The Madness of the you know a mirror watching a
mirror watching a mirror she thought so she was in control the whole situation now she
finds out that Diane who she just thought was a backup dancer no harm no foul and maybe this is
where I'm getting at maybe she didn't feel as bad as far as tedro's taking advantage of her
but more so that it was a a female that she looked that looked upon like lesser than her
was in cahoots with someone taking advantage of her is that where you all think that this kind
of the devastating look that we have from Jocelyn this devastating reveal that Johnson gets was more
so that she was like I can't believe F Tedros he's harmless he has a rat tail but I allowed
my backup dancer to somehow some way work her way into a situation work her way into getting my song
is that what that look comes from guys that Johnson filled disgusted that Diane was able to
get one over on her well while that is happening and my gosh my man was on speed dial Jocelyn Texas
her ex-boyfriend which again I don't know if her ex-boyfriend was the one that had all that stuff
on her face and episode one if it was someone else but we we knew a couple weeks ago that he
cheated on her and that's that's why they broke up unless we were to you know we were to assume
them but Rob is now in the house having a good old time with uh Tedros Tedros Tedros they're having
you know some shots escalated the alpha male in the room and he's drunk and doing Karate kicks
and you know getting close and shout out to Rob man rob didn't stand down because I'm thinking of
my homeboy in the in the store last week that just allowed you know Tedros will talk down to him uh
as well as I'm thinking about the personal chef to let tedro slap him like I'm just so glad that
Rob didn't like punk out and be like all right man you win like he was like nah bro if you he
kept telling him to I don't know if y'all caught that Rob kept seeing him I'm gonna play you know
we can play fight but if you if you get any closer we you know I I might have to show you you know
when I'm really about I thought that was just kind of funny Johnson comes in runs in this man's arms
and it's like oh I'm sorry I can't remember the line that Rob said but he's like oh your
boyfriend or like whoever tedro says did you know he was a I can't remember what he said but it was
something like silly but Jocelyn like dismissed him so quickly again this whole entire show
tedro says we've been led to believe that tedro's tells her to speak when they eat when a dance when
the scene control and everything you would take care of me with last week's finale of the episode
she allowed all that man this is the real Jocelyn this is the real Jocelyn man she
can I was you know I was talking about love and hip hop earlier this is the [ __ ] that I
was watching for Love and Hip Hop like damn these people are so evil all the sex scenes with tedro
and Jocelyn this season has been flat as a pop that's been sitting out for three hours none of
the sex scenes have been sexy at all like Lily is you know she's a very attractive young lady
tedro's not so much all of the sex scenes have been very lukewarm at best
but to see between Rob and and Jocelyn getting on y'all
was was what I think the intent of the sexual getting you know maybe getting the audience
at home being like you know turn off making sure the blinds are closed for the Neighbors
don't think they're watching porn or whatever it's like none of those scenes were hot at all
but I'm just saying Rob and Johnson that was hot that was some sexy HBO you know saying night late
at night type of viewing man that's the sexiness and I think the show has been trying to capture
but hasn't been able to do because tejos is a disgusting person with a rat tail but anyway y'all
as that's going on again tedro's is outside banging on the door baby let me in Rob tells
well not tells her he's essentially telling us his audience the reason he broke up is because Johnson
kind of encouraged this that she didn't want to be in uh you know a single person relationship
to go explore he thinks again Johnson's great at making these men think that they are needed
by her nah bro it's the other way around so they're hooking up oh yeah I got to do this
one more time before we wrap up this breakdown because I just love it I need to put it on replay
keep crying bro keep crying I love it because he's such a Despicable character uh booty call
about to go back on his press tour he runs into Xander he sees them he's like hey what's up bro
it's been a minute yeah yeah do you mind taking this photo with my friend here she's a big friend
big fan of yours right and he's like sure man I'll I'll take a quick photo of you whatever no
harm no foul and it takes the photo damn man like that was not what I wanted like delete
that photo when he leaves back to what Isaac told Xander when he was cleaning him he said
you know tedro sees talent in you but you're gonna need to do a favor for him if I'm Gonna Let You Go
you need to do a favor so my question for you all at home is this favor it's kind of weird because
how would have Tedros didn't know that Rob was coming over right so like how would he had I guess
he just had that you know UNO card saving that car like whenever I need it I'm gonna have it so after
Tedros is crying outside he might have said he might have text Xander hey favor cashing in right
now and I got many more I want to use for you I want you to take a photo of this actor Rob I'm
assuming he's a big actor he said he's leading a superhero movie once you take this photo of him
hugging you know this girl who's you know half clothed and this is the angle does he want Rob to
look bad for Jocelyn like he just hooked up with his girlfriend and then Johnson sees this photo of
him hugging you know this girl who's half naked and like she's gonna feel bad that doesn't seem
like that would bother her I mean he she's already he already cheated on her I mean and it seems like
she doesn't really care I might be wrong in saying that or is tedro's gonna use this to like mess up
Rob's career by having him taking his photo with his half naked girl in the headline reads I don't
know him take an event I don't know because maybe the girl comes out and says no he touched me he
gave me a hug I didn't want him to do that he was groping me touching me like I don't know
if they're gonna spin it that way and make Rob see like he's a predator he's inappropriate he's
cheated on his pop star and now he's going out for his next victim like I don't know the angle
and who's to say this is even an angle from Tedros this can be Xander doing
his own trying to get back at Ted rose right so that's the question I have for you all is
um who is this from is this from Tedros is this from Xander is this the favor that he wants him
to do and if this is the favor is it to make Jocelyn jealous that Rob just you know smashed
and grabbed and next is moving on to next girl literally minutes later or if this is to damage
his career and make it seem like he's harassing this girl and now I'm even thinking about it
going back to a line that uh Destiny said that there's kids in this house by kids you
know teenagers he's under age maybe she's 17. she's at this party there's drugs there's sex
there's this movie star underage girl ruin his career is that the angle if that's the angle
we got one episode how are they going to tie that into Jocelyn manipulator Tedros Diane
Destiny Chloe God damn that's a lot of plots to wrap up in an hour so again man this show has
these like interesting moments and drama and you know complexity within characters and going into
the minds of these terrible people toxic people but next week's the finale so we'll see man how
it all wraps up to wrap up this breakdown portion again we're live now with live audience come and
join us we're going to be back next week for the finale but wrapping up the breakdown let
me know in the comments those watching the replay Pros cons thoughts deeper meanings would you take
away with it I think this is the best episode of the season but let me know in the comment
section like share subscribe to the channel if you haven't already we will be back join us next
week for the live after show for the finale that I didn't know was coming because I thought it was
six episodes but join us next week you all have been awesome peace out foreign [Music]