Hi guys Krk and jaysoni here with Kirk Giordano plastering today what we're gonna do is repair a
ceiling why they step through it done it myself a few times anyhow what we want to do is we're
gonna locate our joists first okay I've marked these joists out to know where they are 16 inch
on center this ones next to a header over here so it's 15 anyhow what what I generally tell
folks and you guys may have seen me I'll take a razor knife and I'll score this why don't we
score it because if I started pulling this down guess what this whole ceilings gonna come off
see this radius it's gonna come off the house is a hundred and thirty years old so the idea
is the plaster here's mushroomed through would laugh and we've got to gently take it off now
there's a tip guys some some folks it wasn't very easier way other than the razor and ten
knife scored it and squirt it yeah you could use a dremel they got a lot of these check this out
guys okay look at this is a diamond blade for going through stucco samman and all that crap
it doesn't look like it's moving does it it is moving so what I want to do is I want to
remove everything bad but I don't want to remove the whole ceiling so what I'm what
I will do is I will find my stud and once I grab this it'll take it to where I want
now I'm gonna go to the corner here show you an example okay guys can't put my glasses on
now you might say why not use a grinder a grinder will the blade is so fat this whole thing would
be just full of dust so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take it here to the corner here and here and
then we remove it say basically I just cut this I haven't cut this yet but I'll score it here
but for example you grab it and you pull it off and right where I scored it that's where it stops
man you want to you want to stop it otherwise if I to grab that and pull it it continue to
go so what I've done already is I've scored this section with the dremel and and you can do this
too guys because I'm because I'm on video here well so in jail sometimes hold the vacuum and
I'll just go this way and it'll catch all the desks but for such a little patch it's really
not necessary I got my mask and everything we got the floor covered so we're gonna remove this and
then show you the next stage okay guys I'll show you we're up in the attic and how many
of you have walked on these Joyce's here and step through it I mean I've done about once myself but
you're walking on the joists and then you step through if its sheetrock or if it's lath and
plaster liked it you step but then you feel like you feel it you pull up real quick so the foot
doesn't go actually through it only one job I did with a guy's foot went all the way through it and
he said no stuck dangled in there anyone wearing a mask because haha know what's up here and Jay and
I did a video a couple few weeks ago I didn't have a mask man I was coughing for a week and
plus I had gave me issues wearing gloves because of this right here I don't want this to go on my
face and I don't want it to go in Jays face so I'm gonna turn this vacuum on and vacuum it up
you get the idea I'm gonna vacuum all this why because when I start removing the plaster
underneath this it's gonna rain down on me and I also got glasses here that like ski glasses
cover my eyes completely I do not want this old insulation dust and all that crap in my lungs
that's stuff I have no clue what's in it but I do know this that ain't good for you guys hi
guys what explains something for all you folks we've done like 600 videos or more for all you
folks who said Kirk I've tried to do walls let alone ceilings I've dropped all the mud it was
soup it's all over the place or it's got hard to fast it happens to us too let me explain something
guys plastering is a two-man operation you could try it yourself good luck I've done it myself
maybe 50 times for interiors it doesn't work that way you need a fella that knows how to mix and
knows materials in order to do your job I can't look good unless the material I'm using is mixed
well or it's appropriate I'm gonna you'll watch my video and you'll see I struggled with it and Jay
said dad how about I give you some new stuff and I said no let's let this one be for the folks who
say that I make it look easy this I'm not gonna make this look easy because what we what we wanted
was for that particular the patch we're doing I wanted this fast set it's uh Westpac's it's 20
minutes what is 20 minutes mean that means by the time say junior Lou Mix they would bring it up to
the second story where I'm doing the job I got 15 minutes now because they mix and I just put it on
it would have been real nice because the patch would have taken me ten minutes or five minutes
to patch it and then another five minutes to play with it and boom I would have been done why don't
I use imperial base coat or why don't I use Imperial or diamond base coat it's the same
reason I don't use struck the light I get a lot of people from the UK England s AG Kirk how come
you know you struck the light well if you watch this video you'll see why don't you struck the
light these are great what they have a tendency to wait between 45 minutes to an hour sometimes
an hour and a half that patch I was gonna do it it's just a five-minute patch for a fella like
me that knows what I'm doing so here's what we did we took struck delight because that's all we had
on the truck and we put some calcium sulfate in it what that does is it accelerates it and
if you watch what we do we're experts at adding accelerators to this however this particular day
we added just a little too much so you'll see the struggle I have and that's where you guys you say
Kirk you make it look easy I do make it look easy but it's a two-man operation anyway you watch this
video and you'll see what I'm referring to and if you're gonna do that patch I recommend a fast set
and if you go with a five-minute that's that you might as well be using fix all because it sets
too fast by the time you mix it and you bring it up it's set hard so this is what I recommend and
if you're not that good they got a forty minute and they have a sixty and a ninety for what I
did when you watch this this is the perfect stuff this 20 minutes anyhow you'll see what I'm talking
about okay guys we're at the stage now where we got all of that out where he stepped on it I had
to put new screws because we want this fastened to this joist here and a couple here and then
next what we do is a bonding agent we take the bonding agent we go over at four or five times
the bonding agent actually allows the plastic to adhere to this but it does one more thing that's
more important than that it removes all the dust so I've gone here about three times now since
James mix it and what I've done is I removed the dust more important than the bonding agent because
we're gonna get Keith our plaster is gonna key through here okay for the fella Eric who asked
me you always calling me and asking me questions for ya my question is you said hey how much every
time I do this I take ten times more than I think it's practice man this knows it's not a science
to this you just here's what I estimated and so I come right here could I lose it and take more
absolutely it just takes practice the idea is I tell folks what I'm gonna do I tell them oh gee
I think it's gonna stop right here and I mark it and I take it off if it continues going hey
it happens guys okay J mix me this mutter ba oh let's go and we are using Oh hot mud we're not
using a drywall mud then you guys see me using a lot of them we're using hay destructor light
and destructive light we're using and put a cellar age in that so now because oh I've been hammering
while I have been this wall got away nothing I can't handle oh ok the mud is good and stuff
Can you read mix this mud? No guys wanna do that mix it,
and it gets away from you. So just mix some other stuff, alright, that's okay.
first we have soup and now we have this I really have this been too loose because I can make this
work guys a little extra effort and yeah got to use a lot more muscle but that's okay I
just happen to have a bunch of that alright I am at a stage where the mud is hard I only got one
more try at it I'm gonna see if I can use it is struck the light we put celery tzer's in it can
I use venir placer yes can I use compounds yes okay because this is hard as a rock almost I'm
gonna switch trials this one I got more play or more anyway with this is my handy dandy steel
trowel and you see how fast this stuff except that I did this as soon as Jay brought it and not did
that I'm sure about showing the I lost it that's okay Jays gonna mix me up some new stuff and I'm
gonna finish coating this but you see where I'm at now guys this stuff here it's gone while Jay mixes
me up some other stuff I'm gonna clean this up so my next coat just goes right over it okay guy we
lost that back but no big deal we got some stuff here that we made a little soup here because it's
hot up here it's hot and plus now it's going over another material when you go over another material
it sucks the moisture right out of it minute ago starting to sweat because nervous take it out
man I'll tell you gotta make another batch one year when you're hustling like that and you're
sweating the last thing you want is dust in the air because then all that dust sticks to you your
pores it's a real drag one of my little things that annoys me I don't like it fortunately I got
all the dust off my plaster while the plaster weld is a bonding agent can you use a different
type of absolutely you can use exterior bonding agents the weld Crete made by Larsen's also but
you can't use the plaster weld made by Larsen's bonding agent for outside stuff so you can use
the good product or inside that's made for the outside anyhow back to this okay I'm feeling
this and start this set about right I want it to set fast again just because we got beat up right
there doesn't mean I just want to slow it down too much all right what I'm doing is filling all these
voids because I was tough lemon doing a bunch of weird stuff it's out of proportion the middle is
concaved, so now that I got it, I'll take it here and make sure it would have been
a lot easier to remove this alarm, but that alarm is wired in electrical I tried
actually went off again kind of plasters you could use guys are compounds drywall kind of pals
that come in 20 minute my 40 minutes 60 what does that mean that's how long before it starts to get
hard what I use is struck the light, and we put accelerators in it the accelerator we use been in
my garage now for about a year, and it's old, and when it's old it is tough to judge its performance
I mean we just we put quite a bit in there, and it just got hard quick it ages and when it ages
extremely minute anyway because we had an issue here nothing I can't handle we're putting it back
together and I'm gonna leave it at this because it's gonna take me about 10 minutes now for this
to set when it does I'll show you the finish all right my buddy hey how do you make it look so
easy make this one look so easy but again we're using products and I've been setting so you put
it on and then you just Charlie all right now it's it's hard it's about 10 minutes from the lab time
we just click off that camera and now you just go over go just get all the lines now and this again
is a struck taillight do I need to put a finish coat all right no because there's an orange peel
paint job meaning they use the heavy roller so I'm smooth I'm matching what they got all
they got to do is come over here when this sets and about it day and paint it and it will blend
right in I never see it anyway guys that's just a couple tips yeah we have our issues too you don't
want to do this stuff and use every material known to man without having a couple issues nothing we
can't handle anyway my name is Kirk Jay on the camera we thank you for watching and as usual
see you guys on the next one once again folks we thank you for watching and I really enjoy all your
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