the senate armed services committee reporters come out and over the last
couple days we've had
nombre
huge revelations %uh from it
%uh some old which in fact a lot of which we already know but it's important
that we have a national report that confirms that and makes it official
as until you do
morsel washington ignores it even though these are things a lot of things we
renew but now
they
traced officially
how %uh
these abusive
inherit i interrogation tactics
we would call it good called for sure
started one time all day
%uh with the absolute insistence
of the pentagon
and the higher-ups in the bush administration
and it went from guantanamo to afghanistan
where we head
%uh did the the similar techniques in bodrum air base as well as many of the
other detention centers that we have met extensive
and over people died from this portrait actress and barbara
%uh and then it transformed itself overtook iraq and in iraq we have abu
grabe
and below this was not just a few that happens is that
ministration claimed
%uh and as we said at the time what did all of these people in afghanistan iraq
magically come up with the same techniques all on their own the just
rented out
these low-level soldiers of course not they were given directives and now we
know
the day absolutely work
so those abuses that you saw in abu grabe
%uh words that direct result of don rumsfeld and dick cheney and powell is a
racist center
giving a order
%uh to do these abusive tactics
and what we would call torture
and what we know is for sure because some people died from it
now the republicans will say
%uh leases just putting up a can play a caterpillar banks are packed let's look
at the ellen
side of the addressee all night and we put him in some stress positions
as also previously world one of the mammals
five separate hours a day with a big deal about the sky seven for four hours
well you're not shackled don and you're not miss rex position
anion at
it's your it for a likely to monitor not slept in eleven days
now i wrote an article on our website beatrice dot com
where i said
you know what what khalid sheik mohammed had dot as we water born one hundred
eighty three times as slammed his head against the wall and have a caucus ice
box full of insects
and extreme temperatures
is a possibility would've got into cardiac arrest and died
absolutely women torture that
and answers obvious of police it's torture
but says he did
and i think it is elliot is in a robotic budget out of those who cares right
and that means a lot but that's a hypothetical the practicing and
but what i'm talking about
the police it one of the guys in technology that is in a rat pack instead
one hundred detainees died in u_s_ custody
thirty-four have already been called
suspected or confirmed
homicide
including one of the pictures that i've agreed with her member the one where the
%uh wp
female u_s_ soldier
was %uh posing in front of the guy with the big thumbs up
going to happen and i was in a body bag
he got a job there
they keep doing the same track is over and over the nation fixated
and a satirist chest while he was having a heart attack because of these torture
dot
and he's dead do you guys a bargain air base dead
from cag getting beaten too much and now one of the republican sen on tv
although we had softer walls that we had collars so they wouldn't get whiplash
as we prepare to smash it against the wall couple of times
and of course this out is torture now we know it
now the question is who authorized
well the senate armed services committee report also addresses that
undoubtedly
com believes the rice
and dick cheney
not just
well orders
aids generally speaking but specific orders
the pentagon lawyers you drop the memos that off arises for
%uh cali serai stever borders in july two thousand is and two
that has been confirmed and dick cheney also gave orders to cording to the
report
%uh other people that were in the room albendazole stand john ashcroft
interestingly enough
actually rumsfeld and powell were left out of there
i'm not surprised that they didn't want to include pal 'cause he would have and
perhaps objected
but %uh but they love ron sold out of the room is located at a wind up saving
his ass one day
%uh september of two thousand three is when they finally tell rumsfeld in power
this is an interesting
notebook
the right
does anybody have about the facts but we do
if it turns out ransall united the initial orders
they needed the initial or
%uh will follow up that up and see how it goes so
when you think that all these crazy
techniques
that's a at the question of people been asking now we trace is on the show many
many months ago but again the report confirms what we have said earlier
and now it's official
it's in fact a group called within the united states %uh armed forces called
the joint
personnel recovery agency
well i think it was the train our guys to resist tortured that they might get
from someone else
the document to be used as an old document that the common issues to use
in korea vietnam etcetera
elicit false confessions
so they think that document andy counter training yesterday
so they know that %uh communist in asia and china specifically
had uses the water working for the four right
so they train against it
so that the geniuses in the bush pentagon fucked
if they do it to our guys to train them that must mean that it's okay
now so they have stood the joint personal recovery agency they can we use
this against our own detainees
and they say hello
don't do it
physically talent reading as this
cousins torture and the bad guys do it
so don't do it till i detainee
that's inevitable
and of course they're ignored
in fact let me be more specific with you guys they caution the reliability of the
information gleaned from severe methods that warren
the public and political backlash could be quote intolerable
%uh but more specifically a top official in %uh in this training group said
as subject in extreme pain they provided answer
any answer many answers
in order to get the people stop
well you know we've done this before we know how it works
and then army psychologists whole personally guantanamo bay
that the methods were in
terribly dangerous
or sometimes entered the residence
but those are not in bearing bearing controlled settings for a very limited
periods of time
and sometimes they would get it right
and they said in the real
if you plan to really change the dangers to the row fears another quote duress
with real detainees
is increased
exponentially
so they are warning and their assistance to the pentagon was
do not do this this one
that's what we train against it
and if you do it for real you will not get reliable information
and you might really hurt these guests because is torture
and ofcourse the pentagon took that information said thank you very much but
we're not interested in your opinion is just give us the chinese
manual anywhere if you're in step aside
and eventually of course
dick cheney being assistant and now
report confirms their worst cheney
who was assistant at college so right
%uh force of lawyers to write opinions
now thought you might say by the new we're perfectly happy to write these
opinions and david addington the lawyers that were involved here
and i would agree with you
%uh but as chefs in a funny enough set on fox news
some of you pay more to seventy-four year he's got a ride
did you tell me a copy directors ok israelis and that was saying torch is
okay anything is colorful legalese to try to make it seem like it's okay
so the guys who gave the orders of course by far the most responsible
%uh and
before so really has spent thirty insert this message
and you know you call a tornado i call it tomato you'd call waterboarding
torture us they call it enhanced interrogation
that says remember what
now that doesn't fly because the waterboarding has always been illegal
it's always been considered
forgeries back
the united states executed several japanese soldiers
for waterboarding our soldiers
so there's precedent on the books
for not only is it legal but we executed people
for doing that kind of torture
so that's a very weak argument now they know they have a weak argument as a
legal argument number two
they don't even if it is for sure
and we can disagree on whether it is or not
so matter of interpretation
by the way it will
what would be torture for them
smashing i guess the wall and but doing coffin coffins and the insects and %uh
extreme tension the straps positions sleep deprivation
slapping upside the head
and the waterboarding literally drowning until two a point where it is almost
dead
and then they pull them out of it
the all those aren't worth the one it's what we have to do torturer
where the cut his head off
all and then that's what or i will say they love the guy said
all of this we got their heads up congratulations to you you must feel
proud
right so they go to the second or even a second artist
i hate you know what %uh it might be torture but hobo reason effective
of refused
no one has ever presented the any evidence that this paperwork
now cases no trust me
visibility secret memos
that show how effective date
i don't know who's a never seen that night so might there be some information
that they got
that actually was a little helpful and that they might have gotten in other
ways by the way
maybe
dot where it was a bad information i think that we already know that yes
absolutely
and that might have in the whole points which is what i'm gonna get you next
%uh whatever problems he's referring to dallas would dennis lesson because
that's where is the
%uh top indulges vishal for brocco bomb
and blair
intimated at one point
that there was quote high-value information that was obtained through
these harsh interrogation tactics
the right wing was like athletes
max once our plans the wardrobe for a lot of it
but the action we would let wrote
he said
the information given these techniques was valuable in some instances
but there's no way of knowing whether the same information
could have been obtained
through a other means
we don't know because we didn't run
not remember
we got incredible information
from the nazis
%uh that wound up helping are causing more work to do
nazis that he had to change
%uh did we ever talked to them displays might not know not all we brought him
here to the united states not to guantanamo they weren't alabama
should the report was of the time it's all part of your work but not things
that i hope that what
while we get there
but we can't tell you the star before on air
yes even state figures we've played ping pong with them
and we have to be buddies and i got all right you win here
we're gonna go through thick cotton or on your ticket mythical all the
information
that network the bass
now do i want khalid sheik mohammed too
get a state dinner how about
i want information
and i don't want to torture people
because that's how we were supposed to do in this country
we're supposed to be done
now we hope the guy who might know the past
that's f_b_i_ director robert mueller
robert mueller i did we get any information that wound up preventing a
taxes cheney says over and over
well he was in a vanity fair %uh article they did interviewed him
and i want to give you a direct quote from that december two thousand eight
articles are pretty recent
%uh the reports as i ask you have so far s as so forrest
is aware
have any attacks on america been disrupted
thanks intelligence that came through with the administration's locals
enhanced techniques
i'm reluctant to answer them
he pauses
looks at an eight
and this is quietly declined to elaborate quote
i don't believe that has been the case
no we did not get any information that prevented
any attacks
doesn't mitigate any information
putting any information that one approve any attacks
is that little bit of information
it it actually existing none of that has been declassified yet we don't know
right
if edinburgh they got a little bit information could have done in other
ways
displaces yes robert miller says yes
all the military lawyers say yes
and then isn't worth the torture that we get tour on america's named reputation
hal no
nowhere
now of course if you're a public and you think otherwise
you think well
i can really care anyway because
but to fit and torch is not that big a deal
the kinda get off on
and when you see the commentator's all over t_v_
love hearing about the idea of these guys and torture