hey guys, Pete here. I was doing some research that led me back to the prince
that was promised theory so i thought i'd make a video about it. the show
hasn't deviate much from the books in regards to the prophecy itself other
than cutting out an important reference to it in season two when Daenerys is in
the house of undying. during season six it did reference the prophecy in
Mereen that isn't from the books and there was a heavy-handed
reference in the tower of joy scene too. so it certainly hasn't been cut
completely out. The first time we hear about the prince that was promised in the
books is on that trip through the house of undying when Dany sees her brother
Rhaegar with his wife Elia Martell and their newborn son Aegon. he tells her he
is the prince that was promised and his is the song of ice and fire. Rhaegar had
once thought he might be the prince that was promised as did Maester Aemon but
later they decided that it would be his son. the Targaryens believed that the
prince will be born of their line because Rhaegar's grandfather Jahaerys
the second visited a woods witch that told him that it would be that way
Jahaerys had his two children Rhaella and Aerys, Danny's parents, wed because the
witch told him that the prince would come from their line. We don't know where
the prophecy started as there isn't much information about it that we can draw
from. based on the fact that Maester Aemon mentions a thousand years to
Samwell it should be safe to say that that the prophecy is at least that old
according to Melisandre the prince that was promised's coming was prophesized over
5,000 years ago but she doesn't make any mention of who made the actual prophecy
Melisandre sort of uses the prince that was promised an Azor Ahai interchangeably
but we hear her say Azor Ahai far more often. on the other hand Aemon never
mentions the name Azor Ahai when he's talking about the prince that was
promised
there are a lot of similarities in both prophecies and there are a couple of
references where they overlap. those involve Maester Aemon. one time he asked
Melisandre about the prince that was promised in relation to the war for the
dawn and another time he tells Samwell that the prince would be born of salt
and smoke which is the same thing Melisandre says about Azor Ahai. many
other of the theories that are saying Azor Ahai and the prince that was
promised being different are also related to Maester Aemon. he doesn't use the name
Azor Ahai when he talks about Daenerys
being the prince that was promised but he's very aware that this
prophecy exists. we know this because he left to Jade Compendium for John to read
which tells of the story Azor Ahai and his sword Lightbringer. one big
difference is that you never really hear people talking about the prince that was
promised wielding a sword like Azor Ahai in that prophecy but there is a
reference to Rhaegar deciding to become a night after he read something
in his Scrolls. meaning that he may have uncovered something to the effect that
he needed to learn to handle a sword to fulfill the prophecy
we also learned that the Prince part isn't exactly right Aemon tells Sam that
high Valyrian is a gender-neutral language and the dragons are neither
male or female
this meant that everyone was misled thinking it was a prince for over a
thousand years
here are the signs of the coming of the the prince that was promised. the birth of a
prince
(this could be wrong since Maester Aemon says that it could be prince or princess
based on high Valyrian being gender-neutral) the prince is the blood
of the Dragon. the woods witch would say that it's specifically the blood that
comes from Aerys and Rhaella. born amidst smoke. born amidst salt. a bleeding star
in the skies which has also been mentioned like being born beneath the
bleeding star
there's also the possibility of the return of dragons. this comes from the
dunk and egg stories when he was a boy egg recalled that King Aerys the first
read about the return of dragons in a prophecy. Aemon and Melisandre give us most of
the information about the prophecy and they both have different ideas about who
fufills it. when he was young Aemon thought that it was Rhaegar and possibly
then his son Aegon until he was killed during the sack of King's Landing. later
when Samuel tells him about Daenerys and her dragons he immediately thinks it's
her. Melisandre thinks its Stannis until he dies in the show and then says it's
Jon after he comes back to life. for contrast these are the signs Azor
Ahai is reborn after a long summer when the stars bleed in the cold breath
of darkness falls heavy on the world or when the red star bleeds in the darkness
gathers he shall be born again
amidst smoke and salt he shall wake the Dragons from stone he shall draw from
the fire burning sword which is lightbringer. so there are a lot
similarities here the burning sword is the major difference and it makes you
wonder how they aren't just a variation of the same story after all prophecies
like that if the story has been passed around for centuries it would likely
change as different cultures adopted it and made it their own the great flood
myth is a good example of this in the real world most people in Western
culture grew up learning that the story about Noah and the Great Ark built in
preparation long before this story appeared in the Bible that existed in
different cultures with different details you know there's Gilgamesh and
there's there's many other different examples from an objective non religious
viewpoint you might think that the Christian faith co-opted this story
because it tells a great story of a human craving life in the face of
calamity we know details related to the prince that was promised sound very
Targaryen. Rhaegar says that Aegon is the prince that was promised but then he
adds that there must be another because the Dragon has three heads the name he
gave his children seem to suggest he relates this to Aegon the Conqueror and
his to Sister Wives Rhaenys and Visenya we don't know exactly why he connects
this to the prophecy but can agree that this is a Targaryen specific kind of
detail on the other hand Melisandre mentions the prince that was promised
without the Targaryen references in the TV show Kinvars tells Tyrion that
Daenerys is the one that was promised which i assume is just a general like
gender neutral way of saying it but doesn't mention Lightbringer or dragon
with three heads all of this further muddies the waters about whether the two
prophecies are from the same original and have just morphed over time based on
cultures that means we can't deduce if the prince that was promised and Azor
Ahai would be the same person if the prophecy was fulfilled
there have been good theories written for it being the same person, and there have
been good theories written about it being two separate people at the end of
the day there are only two super strong candidates which are Daenerys and Jon Snow
many of the other people that you could bring up just don't
really fit the bill
especially the way this you know the story has developed overall Dany fits
the prince that was promised and also woke dragons from stone she doesn't have
Lightbringer though and John seems like a much better candidate to wield an
actual sword in battle against the White Walkers at the same time he hasn't
woke any dragons and isn't in possession
the flaming sword. So neither fulfills the aspects of the Azure Ahai
version and on top of that we have the Targaryen specific mention of the Dragon
having three heads for the prince that was promised if you watch my importance
of prophecy video you know i think is likely that the prophecy will be
fulfilled but what is really important is that each of these characters stories
will be shaped by decisions they make in relation to it in the books Jon is
still dead Stannis is still alive and Daenerys far behind her story where she is
at you know in the show I think it's safe to say that Jhn will be
resurrected engineers will make it to Westeros how we get there probably won't
happen in the same way as it did in the show but in the end I think the story is
leading to the same place so until the winds of winter is released we can't say
for sure how the stories are going to shake out the question is can we tell
how these prophecies will shape the end of the story in the show
it's hard to say in general I would say yes if this does give us a good idea
that there will be a big war coming
it will be a war for the dawn or a war to be back the forces of the others
which would like to destroy humanity
I mean this is obvious for a lot of reasons but we could just go with the
first thing that we hear about in the prologue of the books and the first
thing we see in the show is the Nights Watch coming in contact with the white
Walker from there we can agree that the Iron Throne isn't what's important here
because the real threat to everything has been building beyond the wall right
from the very start the show has accelerated everything to the point that
we will experience the conclusion of the story
pretty soon regardless of how you feel about how they've done this we know that
the end they're working towards is based on what george RR martin told them about
how he envisions the end of the story major places they go should be
consistent
even though the details on how they get there are different the showrunners know
who put who the prince that was promised / Azor Ahai is I find important that
they made sure to show young Ned place or dawn at the foot of the bed where
Jon was born I mentioned at the beginning that it was heavy-handed
because there's really no other reason to make this part of the scene standout
Donna's house teens ancestral sword that was forged from a following star and
also has you know the falling star right on the hill they set this up to leave no
question that Jon Snow was born under a bleeding sorry if you think there's
another reason to add this part of the scene please
me know in the comments because I just can't get around it does that in itself
mean that Jon Snow is as or high though I mean definitely not after all Daenerys
is the one who woke the dragon is out of stone and she's currently the only one
who is able to ride one of them i'm not a big fan of the idea that the Dragons
themselves or Lightbringer and I don't see Jon waking any other dragons from
stone anytime soon so that leaves us with three possible conclusions
one more will be revealed to make either Jon or Daenerys alone fulfill the proper
to Jon will fulfill one of the prophecies and Dany will fulfill the
other or three
there's only one prophecy which is fulfilled by both of them together it's
not a question of if one of them is the prince that was promised in one is Azor
Ahai but instead it's that they are both equally important to fulfill the
prophecy in the end so i don't know let me know what you think I'm heavily
leaning towards the third option right now like I said there's a ton of
interesting theories that have been written for every possible outcome here
but I don't see either candidate taking the lead in the race in the show most
theories are based on the books because there's way more evidence to draw but at
the end of the day I do believe that George has told the indie where to go if
not how to get there what happens in the show matters but can't help us solve the
mystery
leave a comment and tell me what you think Azor Ahai and the prince that was
promised teo different people?
is it the same person and you think you know who it is how would you discount
either Jon or Dany and say that one is more important than the other? is the
prophecy all a bunch of nothing that was just basically woven into the story so
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