SPECIAL PROSECUTOR FROM
SPEAKER PELOSI TODAY WHO
ATTACKED THE AG'S CHARACTER.
>> IF SOMEBODY LIKE LEV PARNAS
CAME FORWARD, AND THERE WAS
EVIDENCE THERE WAS REASON TO
BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOME OF
THAT THAT WAS FACTUAL, THERE
WOULD BE A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR
APPOINTED.
DOES ANYBODY THINK THAT THE
ROGUE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS GOING
TO SUPPORT, POINT A SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR?
NO, BECAUSE HE IS IMPLICATED IN
ALL OF THIS.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ALL OF THE
PRESIDENTS.
>> Martha: TREY GOWDY COME AT
THE EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN AND
FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU, TRACY,
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO WHAT
SPEAKER PELOSI HAD TO SAY THERE?
>> A LOT OF IF'S AND THAT
SENTENCE.
I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS A LOGIC
QUESTION.
THERE HAS TO BE A SPECIAL CRIME
TO BE APPOINTED.
YOU ARE NOT POINTED TO LOOK INTO
IT UNLESS THERE IS A CRIME.
THE ONLY CRIMES I HAVE HEARD
ALLEGED AGAINST BILL BARR'S NAME
MENTIONED AND A TRANSCRIPT IN
THE CONVERSATION HE DID NOT
PARTICIPATE IN AND MOST
RECENTLY, HE MAY BE FRIENDS WITH
RUDY GIULIANI BEFORE.
I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THAT BEING
FRIENDS WITH THOSE THREE PEOPLE
IS NOT A CRIME.
AND I KNOW THAT HAVING YOUR NAME
MENTIONED IN A TRANSCRIPT WHEN
YOU ARE NOT A PARTICIPANT IN THE
PHONE CALL IS NOT A CRIME.
SO I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW SHE'S UPSET BECAUSE HE'S
DOING A GOOD JOB.
I KNOW SHE'S UPSET THAT HE'S A
REALLY SMART, GOOD LAWYER, BUT
THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT REASON TO
CALL FOR SPECIAL COUNSEL.
>> Martha: THERE HAVE BEEN A
LOT OF INDICATIONS THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS NOT THAT
PLEASED WITH THE WHOLE STORY OF
WHAT WAS GOING ON.
UKRAINE, RUDY GIULIANI GOING
OVER THERE AND IT SORT OF BEING
EXTRACURRICULAR FROM THE DOJ AND
A LOVE THAT.
SO WITH ANYTHING, IT APPEARS HE
WAS SORT OF PUSHING BACK AGAINST
SOME OF THAT AND IT HAS BEEN
SUGGESTED BUT I WANT TO READ A
STATEMENT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE, WHO SAID IT'S 100%
FALSE WHAT LEV PARNAS HAS
PROFESSED THERE.
SHE WENT ON TO SAY THE PRESIDENT
HAS NOT SPOKE WITH
ATTORNEY GENERAL ABOUT HAVING
UKRAINE INVESTIGATE ANYTHING
RELATED TO FORMER VICE PRESIDENT
BIDEN OR HIS SON.
THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT ASKED THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL TO CONTACT
UKRAINE ON THIS OR ANY OTHER
MATTER.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS NOT
COMMUNICATED WITH UKRAINE OR
DISCUSS THE MATTER OR ANYTHING
RELATED TO UKRAINE WITH RUDY
GIULIANI.
THAT IS A REPEAT, ACTUALLY
OF SEPTEMBER 25TH STATEMENT.
BUT APPARENTLY, NANCY PELOSI HAS
A LOT MORE CREDENCE IN LEV
PARNAS WHO IS FACING TRIAL.
AND THE STATEMENT OF THE
ATTORNMENT
ATTORNEYNT
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE
UNITED STATES.
>> CONTRAST WHAT BILL BARR,
WHETHER YOU LIKE HIM OR NOT, NOT
HAVING TO LIKE HIM A LOT BECAUSE
REALLY, A REALLY GOOD REPUTATION
AND NOT CURLING UNDER A DIAMOND
EITHER BY THE WAY.
CONTRAST WITH WHAT LEV PARNAS
SAID AND EVEN IN THE INTERVIEW
HE STARTS OFF WITH ABSOLUTE
CERTITUDE.
AND THEN THE NEXT THING OUT OF
HIS MOUTH, WELL, HE HAD TO, AND
THE THIRD THING OUT OF HIS MOUTH
IS PROBABLY.
HE REGRESSES THREE STAGES IN THE
COURSE OF THE SAME ANSWER FROM
ABSOLUTE CERTITUDE TO PROBABLY.
YOU ARE JUST NOT GOING TO GET A
CONVICTION OR APPOINTMENT OF
SPECIAL COUNSEL BASED ON WHAT
SOMEONE UNDER FEDERAL INDICTMENT
WITH A MOTIVE TO LIE THINGS AS
POSSIBLE.
IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
>> Martha: LET ME ASK YOU
THIS.
THIS EVIDENCES SORT OF TRICKLING
OUT AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE
SENATE TRIAL ON ALL OF THIS.
AND WE HEARD ADAM SCHIFF WHO WE
HAVE HEARD BEFORE SAY THERE IS
WAY MORE THAN PEOPLE KNOW.
AND HE SAID, WELL, THIS IS JUST
PART OF IT.
WE ARE EXPECTING A LOT MORE OF
THIS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK LEV PARNAS IS
HOPING TO SAVE HIMSELF FROM BY
SPEAKING OUT AT THIS POINT?
IS HE DOING HIMSELF ANY FAVORS
AS HE ENTERS THE LEGAL PROCESS
HERE?
>> HE HAS NOT.
SECOND THING, MICHAEL: WENT
BEFORE HOUSE COMMITTEE AND ONCE
WHAT'S CALLED A 5K1.1 OR RULE
FIVE'S IN A PRODUCTION AND
THAT'S THE SAME THING LEV PARNAS
WANTS, HE WANTS CREDIT FOR
COOPERATING.
>> Martha: BUT ISN'T THAT IN
FRONT OF A CAMERA?
>> THEY DO NOT LIKE IT WHEN YOU
COOPERATE ON MSNBC OR SOMEONE
OBJECTIVE OR CENTERED CAN
ACTUALLY USE THE INFORMATION FOR
SOMETHING OTHER THAN EXPEDIENCY.
SO NO, IT WILL NOT WORK.
YOU ARE ASKING WHY IS HE DOING
IT?
HAIL MARY AND NOBODY THERE TO
CATCH HIM.
>> Martha: SO WITH REGARD TO
WHAT I MENTIONED IN THE
BEGINNING, THE STORY THAT A SORT
OF COMING OUT FROM
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" THAT THERE
IS ANOTHER INVESTIGATION INTO
JIM COMEY LEAKING AND IT'S
COMING FROM THE DOJ.
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" HAS THIS
HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO AND
FOLLOWED UP ON RIGHT AWAY AND
POLITICAL MOTIVATION BY ANY
THOUGHTS ON THAT COMET
TREY GOWDY?
>> MARTHA, I'M NOT A FAN OF
JIM COMEY BUT I AM OF BEING
FAIR.
I KNOW THAT FACT PATTERN
REFERENCED IN THIS STORY.
JIM COMEY WAS ASKED BEHIND
CLOSED DOORS IN A CLASSIFIED
SETTING TO ADDRESS IT, AND HE
WOULD NOT DO IT.
HIS RESPONSE WAS, IT WAS SO
HIGHLY CLASSIFIED, HE WAS NOT
EVEN GOING TO TELL PEOPLE WHO
WERE CLEAR TO HEAR IT IN A
CLASSIFIED SETTING.
SO LET THE RECORD BE CLEAR, I'M
NOT A FAN OF JIM COMEY, BUT I AM
A FAN TO BEING FAIR TO PEOPLE.
I'M NOT GOING TO INDICT HIM OR
CONVICT HIM BASED ON A
REPORTING.
MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIM ON THIS
VERY FACT PATTERN AND THE
SUBJECT OF THE ARTICLE, HE WOULD
NOT ADDRESS IT IN A SETTING