>>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
I'M MEGYN KELLY.
TODAY, AS YOU KNOW, IS A SOMBER
DAY.
IT HAS BEEN 17 YEARS -- 17 YEARS
SINCE THE SEPTEMBER 11th
ATTACKS.
RIGHT NOW, CEREMONIES ARE TAKING
PLACE HERE IN NEW YORK AND
WASHINGTON AND IN SHANKSVILLE,
PENNSYLVANIA.
AND THE NAMES OF THE NEARLY
3,000 VICTIMS ARE BEING READ
ALOUD, AS THEY ARE EVERY YEAR AT
THIS TIME.
IT WAS A MORNING THAT SHOCKED
THE NATION, INDEED THE WORLD.
IT CHANGED OUR WAY OF LIFE IN
THIS COUNTRY.
JOINING ME NOW TO TALK ABOUT
THIS, THIS DAY AND WHAT'S
HAPPENED SINCE, NBC'S OWN
STEPHANIE GOSK, JENNA BUSH HAGER
AND JACOB SOBOROFF.
GOOD MORNING.
>> IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S 17
YEARS.
>> IT IS.
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE AND IT'S
HARD TO GET THE 30,000-FOOT
PERSPECTIVE ON THE NUMBER OF
THINGS THAT HAS CHANGED FOR US
AS AMERICANS AND IN OUR COUNTRY,
SINCE THAT DAY.
JENNA, LET ME START WITH YOU
SINCE YOUR DAD WAS OUR
PRESIDENT.
IT WOULD COME TO DEFINE HIS
PRESIDENCY ALONG WITH SO MANY
OTHER THINGS.
>> I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN 17
YEARS.
I WAS A FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.
A SOPHOMORE, ACTUALLY.
I JUST STARTED MY SOPHOMORE
YEAR.
WE WERE NAIVE.
AND ONE OF THE DEALS WITH MY
PARENTS, WHEN HE TOLD US HE WAS
GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, WHEN
YOUR KIDS SAY WE'RE WORRIED
ABOUT THIS, WE WANT TO BE
NORMAL, DAD.
HE SAID, OKAY.
YOU WON'T HAVE A LOT OF SECRET
SERVICE.
WE'LL MAKE THAT DEAL.
WE'LL TRY TO KEEP THE SECRET
SERVICE.
AND ON THAT DAY, I WOKE UP AND I
OPENED MY BLINDS AT THE DORM
WHERE I WAS LIVING, AND THERE
WERE A LOT OF MEN SITTING IN
PLASTIC CHAIRS IN THE COURTYARD
OF WHERE I WAS LIVING AND I KNEW
SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED.
AND I GOT DRIVEN AWAY AND
COULDN'T TALK TO MY FRIENDS OR
ANYONE.
I THINK THE THING IS, THAT SO
MANY PEOPLE LOST SO MUCH.
REALLY, I WAS JUST, LIKE, THE
THOUSANDS OF COLLEGE KIDS WHO
FELT, LIKE THE INNOCENCE OF OUR
COUNTRY WAS SHATTERED.
>> IT'S INTERESTING.
HER STORY IS ACTUALLY A REALLY
GOOD METAPHOR FOR WHAT HAPPENED
TO THE COUNTRY IN GENERAL.
IT WAS THIS MOMENT WHERE WE ALL
REALIZED THE FRAGILITY OF OUR
NATION AND WAY OF LIFE.
WE ALL HAD THE PLASTIC CHAIRS
OUTSIDE OUR DOORS AFTER THAT.
AND WE CAONTINUE TO HAVE THEM,
EVERY TIME YOU GO THROUGH AN
AIRPORT AND YOU'RE IN A CROWD
AND YOU LOOK LEFT AND RIGHT AND
YOU LOOK FOR A BACKPACK ON THE
GROUND.
IT CHANGED EVERYTHING.
>> AT 8:45 A.M., IT WAS AMERICAN
FLIGHT 11 THAT STRUCK THE NORTH
TOWER FIRST.
AT 9:03, UNITED 173 STRUCK THE
SECOND TOWER OF THE WORLD TRADE
CENTER.
AND EVERY YEAR, WE HAVE A MOMENT
OF SILENCE TO HONOR THOSE KILLED
AT THAT MOMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO JOIN THAT MOMENT
NOW.
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MARY KATHERINE MURPHY.
NICHOLAS ANDREW --
>> 2,977 INNOCENTS PERISHED THAT
DAY, A DAY THAT WOULD CHANGE US
FOREVER AND REMIND US, BOTH OF
WHAT HAS DIVIDED SOME IN THIS
WORLD AND WHAT BINDS US TOGETHER
AS AMERICANS.
THE THING I REMEMBER, MORE THAN
ANYTHING, WHEN WE'RE WATCHING IT
AT HOME, I WAS PRACTICING LAW AT
THE TIME, WAS THE SUPPORT THAT
THE COUNTRY OFFERED FOR ONE
ANOTHER AND HOW WE CAME
TOGETHER.
AND YOU SAW THE LAWMAKERS GO OUT
IN FRONT OF THE CAPITOL AND SING
"AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL."
YOU LOOK AT THE LAWMAKERS, RUDY
GIULIANI, CHUCK SCHUMER, KIRSTEN
GILLIBRAND, ALL OF THESE FACES
OF NEW YORK, THAT HAVE A SHARED
HISTORY AND REVERENCE FOR WHAT
HAPPENED THAT DAY AND THOSE WHO
WERE LOST.
IT'S A REMINDER THERE IS
GOODNESS IN THE DARKNESS.
AND THERE'S A WAY FOR AMERICANS
TO COME TOGETHER AND REMEMBER
WHAT WE STAND FOR.
>> IT GIVES ME CHILLS TO HEAR
YOU SAY THAT.
I WAS HERE.
I WAS DOWNTOWN.
I WAS A FRESHMAN AT NYU.
I WAS IN WASHINGTON SQUARE PARK.
AND I WAS ON MY WAY TO CLASS
WHEN ALL OF THIS HAPPENED.
I THINK IT WAS MY SEVENTH DAY OF
SCHOOL HERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
NEW YORK.
I WAS INTIMIDATED ABOUT THIS
PLACE.
AND IT CHANGED, OBVIOUSLY, THE
WAY THAT I EXPERIENCED NEW YORK,
THAT EVERYBODY EXPERIENCES THIS
CITY, FOREVER.
EVERYBODY CAME TOGETHER.
I WENT ON TO WORK FOR MIKE
BLOOMBERG, THE MAYOR OF
NEW YORK, AS AN ADVANCE GUY.
I WAS DOWN AT GROUND ZERO ON
EVERY DAY OF REMEMBRANCE OF
9/11.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THIS
CITY FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS ARE
FOREVER CHANGED.
>> MIKE BLOOMBERG, AN
INDEPENDENT.
RUDY GIULIANI, A REPUBLICAN.
GILLIBRAND A DEMOCRAT, ALL
SHOULDER-TO-SHOULDER BECAUSE WE
DON'T THINK OF PARTISANSHIP ON A
DAY LIKE THIS.
JUST REMEMBERING THE HEROES.
NOT ONLY WAS NEW YORK ATTACKED.
BUT D.C. WAS ATTACKED AND A
FLIGHT WENT DOWN IN SHANKSVILLE,
PENNSYLVANIA.
WE'LL HAVE THAT MOMENT LATER IN
THE SHOW, WHERE THE BRAVE
PASSENGERS, LED THAT GROUP TO
ATTACK THAT COCKPIT, WHICH HAD
BEEN COMMANDEERED BY THE
TERRORISTS.
THEY KNEW THAT FLIGHT WAS NOT
HEADED FOR ANYTHING GOOD.
AND WE KNOW IT WAS HEADED TO THE
CAPITOL.
THEY TRIED TO FIGHT.
THE FLIGHT WENT DOWN, 44 LIVES
WERE LOST.
BUT IT COULD HAVE.
>> Bob: BEEN SO MUCH WORSE.
>> IT'S REMARKABLE.
>> YOU THINK OF THE SACRIFICE.
>> I MEAN, 17 YEARS LATER.
BUT WHAT MAKES ME TEAR UP IS
THAT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE CHILDREN,
THAT WILL NEVER SEE THEIR
PARENTS AGAIN.
THEIR NAMES NEED TO BE HEARD.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THEM.
I LOVE THAT WE REMEMBER THESE
PEOPLE THAT WERE HEROES.
THEY WERE THE EPITOME OF ALL
THAT WAS GOOD IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND I GOT TO INTERVIEW SOME OF
THE KIDS.
THEY REFUSE TO BE DEFINED BY
THAT DAY.
BUT THEY LIVE IN A WAY TO MAKE
THIS WORLD A PLACE OF PEACE.
IT'S JUST SO AMAZING.
AND I HOPE WE GET BACK TO THAT
PLACE WHERE, YOU COULD FEEL IT
ACROSS OUR RCOUNTRY.
NOT JUST IN NEW YORK, WHERE
EVERYONE CAME TOGETHER.
THAT WAS A GOOD FEELING.
>> THEY MAKE YOU PROUD TO BE AN
AMERICAN.
>> THERE'S ANOTHER STORY TO BE
TOLD, AND THAT'S THE FIRST
RESPONDERS.
THERE'S BEEN MORE FIRST
RESPONDERS THAT DIED WORKING ON
GROUND ZERO THAN DIED ON THAT
DAY.
WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT
HAPPENED TO THEM AND WHAT
CONTINUES TO HAPPEN TO THEM,
DYING PREMATURELY FROM CANCER,
>> ONE OF THE FIRST
RESPONDERS -- HE DOESN'T LIKE
THAT TERM -- IS JOINING US AS
OUR NEXT GUEST AN HAS AN
INCREDIBLE STORY TO SHARE.
I AGREE WITH YOU.
ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS,
GODFATHER TO MY SON, IS SHAWN
NEUMANN, WHO IS A FIREFIGHTER,
WHO WAS THERE THAT FATEFUL DAY.
HE COMMANDEERED A VEHICLE.
13 MEN OF HIS COMPANY WENT DOWN
IN 9/11, ONLY 12 RETURNED.
SHAWN HAS DEVOTED THE REST OF
HIS LIFE TOWARDS HELPING THE
GUYS WHO WERE DOWN THERE.
AND THEY LIVE, EVERY DAY, WITH
THE FEAR OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE
STILL ALIVE AND WONDERING WHAT
THE FUTURE MIGHT HOLD.
>> EVERY, SINGLE DAY, WE HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO -- THIS IS A TRAGEDY
THAT CONTINUES TO UNFOLD 17
YEARS LATER, WITH SOME OF THESE
BRAVE, BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN,
STILL PASSING AWAY.
>> THANK YOU,
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>>> WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.
WE'RE BACK WITH OUR PANEL.
NBC'S STEPHANIE GOSK, AND JACOB
SOBOROFF.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FALL
OF LES MOONVES WHO IS OUT AT
CBS.
HE WAS RUNNING THE ENTIRE
STATION.
NOT APPARENTLY ALL THE WAY OUT.
WE TOLD YOU THAT MORE THAN A
DOZEN WOMEN HAVE ACCUSED HIM OF
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT OR
INTIMIDATION.
NOW, WE'RE LEARNING THAT NOT
ONLY COULD MOONVES RECEIVE A
MASSI IVE R IVE R IVE SEVERANCE
STICKING AROUND CBS AS AN UNPAID
ADVISER.
AND IS SAID TO GET THE COMPANY
SECURITY DETAIL FOR TWO YEARS.
IS THAT RIGHT?
THIS IS PENDING THE
INVESTIGATION.
IF HE CAN BE FIRED FOR CAUSE.
OBVIOUSLY, IF HE DID THIS THING,
EVERYBODY SAYING, ISN'T THAT
CAUSE?
WE DON'T KNOW.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIS EMPLOYMENT
AGREEMENT.
WAS HE CLEVER ENOUGH TO GET
SOMETHING IN HIS AGREEMENT, NO
PRIOR ACTS TO THIS DATE WILL
QUALIFY.
HAS TO BE FROM 2016-FORWARD?
WE DON'T KNOW.
HE WALKS AWAY WITH A $120
MILLION CHECK AND AN OFFICE AT
CBS AND A CONSULTING AGREEMENT.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THIS
INVESTIGATION IS WHEN IT
CONCLUDES, A LOT OF THE
INFORMATION WON'T BE MADE
PUBLIC.
PRIVACY ISSUES AND A NUMBER OF
OTHER THINGS.
AMONG THE THINGS THAT WILL BE
PUBLIC, IS THE AMOUNT HE GETS IN
SEVE
SEVERANCE.
THAT WILL BE A DETERMINE NATER
IF HE IS GUILTY OF THE THINGS HE
IS ACCUSED OF.
IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT HE
GETS THIS DEAL, WHERE HE
CONTINUES ON AT CBS, THAT WILL
BE THE BENCHMARK.
>> WE SAW FOX NEWS, ROGER AILES
GOT A PAYOUT AND WAS KEPT ON AS
AN ADVISER.
>> UNBELIEVABLE.
>> WAS IT REAL OR NOT?
I DON'T KNOW.
>> IF THAT SALARY IS BEING
WITHHOLD, PENDING THE OUTCOME OF
THE INVESTIGATION.
WHY ISN'T THE OFFICE NOT BEING
WITHHELD?
WHY ISN'T THE SECURITY DETAIL
BEING WITHHOLD?
>> THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE GOING
TO NOT ALLOW HIM ON THE
PREMISES.
I DON'T BELIEVE AS A PRACTICAL
MATTER CBS WOULD DO THAT.
>> I DON'T THINK THEY CAN.
>> CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT MESSAGE
THAT WOULD SEND?
>> THAT MESSAGE IS NOT ONE I
WANT TO HEAR.
>> I WAS WATCHING YOU YESTERDAY
FROM HOME.
YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT I
THOUGHT WAS JUST SO POIGNANT AND
SPOT-ON.
I HAVE BEEN DOING TRAVELING FOR
THE ELECTION, WHAT MATTERS TO
PEOPLE.
YOU SAID, IT'S NOT JUST THE
HALLS OF POWER HERE, NOT JUST
THE PLACE OF MEDIA CORPORATIONS.
FORMERS, P
FARMERS.
PEOPLE IN DAY-TO-DAY JOBS.
HOPEFULLY NOW THIS IS WHERE
PEOPLE SPEAK OUT ANYWHERE YOU
ARE.
>> AND HOW LES MOONVES GOES OUT
SENDS A MESSAGE IN THAT REGARD.
>> JULIE CHEN, HOST OF "THE
TALK" WAS NOT THERE.
SHE IS TAKING TIME OFF TO BE
WITH HER FAMILY, WHICH YOU CAN
UNDERSTAND.
LES MOONVES HAS ISSUED A
STATEMENT SAYING, UNTRUE
ALLEGATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE ABOUT
ME.
JULIE CHEN HAS STOOD BY HER
HUSBAND.
BUT SHARON OSBOURNE SAID SHE
CAME OUT EARLY IN A STATEMENT OF
DEFENSE THAT SHE FELT PRESSURED
TO MAKE.
SHE HAS DELETED THE TWEET, WHERE
SHE SUGGESTED THIS WAS AN
ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT LES
MOONVES, ASKING PEOPLE NOT TO
RUSH TO JUDGMENT.
CAN I JUST SAY, ONCE AGAIN, WE
SEE THE FOLLY OF RUSHING TO
ISSUE STATEMENTS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T
SUPPORT THE PERSON IF YOU SAY
NOTHING.
BUT IT MEANS YOU COULD BE
PUTTING VICTIMS IN A DIFFICULT
POSITION.
AND THOSE WHO ASK TO SIGN THE
STATEMENTS ARE PUTTING THE ONES
RECEIVING THE REQUEST IN A VERY
DIFFICULT SPOT.
>> ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK
PEOPLE THAT PROMINENT.
>> OR WOMEN WHO MIGHT COME
FORWARD WHO ARE EVERYDAY WOMEN.
THEY MAY THINK, OH, IF I COME
FORWARD, OTHERS AROUND ME WON'T
BELIEVE ME.
>> I'M GOING TO GET