[How to attract women younger than you] welcome to the attractive man podcast where we help men become better men
in these episodes you'll discover how to improve your relationships, how to break through your mental
limits that are holding you back and how to move through life with confidence and purpose
and our special guest today somebody who has inspired and taught me so much about the beautiful
mystery of feminine energy zan perrion author of the alabaster girl to which i have a copy of right
here and i pretty much bring it with me everywhere in the world and we'll talk about that thank you
guys happy to be here would you be so kind to share with us a little bit of your story on the
come up i grew up in northern canada basically in the forest um i i my formal education ended at 13
years old i left home at 13 and and i lived in the wilderness basically you know with no electricity
running water moccasins on my feet you know an axe you know this kind of thing right hardcore
yeah and so i didn't really have a high school experience so i didn't under
i didn't get to learn the social dynamics of who's in who's cool who hangs out with these people who
goes to the prom this kind of stuff right so i came out of the forest at 18 19 years old
into the cities of the world so my education that i had as it were to understand the
dynamics of men and women was from movies and you know that romantic comedy movies you know it's
always the nice guy gets the girl in the end and do so i was the quintessential nice guy and i was
ashamed because i had i was i came from poverty and it was a shame because i had no education zero
so everybody else had this education or they had a nice apartment or they had a nice car
and i had to scrabble for every minute of it or maybe a bit of it
and so there's a large part of me that was ashamed of it so my twenties i was insecure
my 20s was just the real morass of confusion and tears and and suckiness i was just really needy
and then my 30s because i because i said i'm going to figure this out if other guys can do
it i'm going to figure it out no matter what i started to get some chi-ching aha moments
wait a minute wait a minute i just said this to this girl and she said this back to me
but i've heard that 50 times before and i think it means something else in what i
than the surface what it looks like so i started against these light bulb moments i started to get
some interactions from understanding my thirties i really started to to to keep understanding or
or to grow my understanding and some guy asked me recently man in your twenties and your early
thirties when you were getting rejected constantly and you and you were all alone did you ever think
of giving up and to say it's not worth it and and it would shock me i wait did i ever think that
no because i have to figure it out and so when i turned around 40 is when the internet dating scene
took off the seduction community quote unquote and so i was involved in the early conversations there
back in the day neil strauss wrote a chapter about me in the book the game you know way
back then and um and i had i had a lot of stuff that i was understanding and wait a minute maybe
it's this and maybe it's that means that which was not instructed down from anybody except for
my own experience right starting from scratch and and kind of building so yeah so from 40 to
50 i hit the road i quit my corporate job i hit the road and said i have to i have to understand
this and i wrote the book down the basket girl it took me 10 years to write basically from birthday
40 to birthday 50. that's amazing 10 years man it took me to write it and in that 10 years as i was
writing it so i was writing you know what i had learned but i was also massaging and articulating
and tuning up the message for that 10 years as i'm writing it but that's kind of my story in
a nutshell i resonate a lot with your story even though my story is completely different i uh so my
is totally at the opposite i was raised you know i'm in i live in switzerland so it was kind of a
good education everything was cool but i was a kid that was left alone by himself or his entire uh
until my until my 12 years old i was pat i was not very social and i came from a different country
so my origins were different so i felt exactly the same as you felt in the woods to be honest
but i had i got to say thank you because guys like you laid the path for my generation so i'm
24 years old and thank to your 10 000 hours put in field i was able to get out of it
much more faster i so i took the route of going in two ways i thought that because i was not very
cool as you said i wanted to be cool so i started to play sports i started to be a soccer player
but that was so important for me because it was all my status that i did only that and of
course i had studies so i did those two things and so i had zero social education i had zero
social interactions because it was school and training and nothing else and that was how i
thought my life would be you know if i wanted to be cool so until i was uh about the same age 20
i had very few social interactions i never went to a club actually before my 22nd birthday and
so you can see that within a couple months thanks to guys like you and my own mentors josiah price
and duke delayed i was able to do exactly what you did for the same reason as you said what message
do you have to those older guys with uh the sense of like it's not too late older guys like somebody
who's like 30 and up they they really understand what i'm trying to say maybe 35 and up because
they've had their heart broken a couple times maybe they've they've they've created a business
or they've created some kind of like career path they've changed that tried something else and
and so they really resonate with the kind of things i'm talking about because if you have this
energetic mystical way of looking at your life and you want to create your life as a
as a piece of art then everybody men and women will be drawn into the into the into the into the
uh orbit of that you know so the first thing out of my mouth when i talk to a girl 21 year old girl
22 is my age what am i going to do with you girl hey if you skirt the issue and she has to ask you
well wait a minute how old are you by the way and you make some kind of joke you failed
you've lost it you failed you failed the first thing out of your mouth because women don't really
care your age they care if you care about it you know so if you change that perspective instead of
like well i'm too old for this girl she's 21 years old and uh she's not going to be interested in me
i promise you that's not true the older i get the more younger women are interested
as long as you have this complete ownership of it you change the perspective which is a
true perspective of i've seen some things in this world i've traveled i've started a business or two
i've been here and there what can you 21 year old girl offer me what what what's something new
that you can teach to me and when you have that spirit which is a kind spirit which is respectful
spirit which is an inviting spirit um women 21 year goes well wait a minute i'll show you uh
you know so it's it's a change and i promise you if guys would just embrace the rage and say it
say me the first thing out of my mouth is like hey what am i gonna do with you i'm i'm old enough
to be your father go away wait a minute come here you know when you have that spirit women
immediately it's not a problem for them at all it's like the king going through his kingdom
imagine that he walks his kingdom and he sees this girl he's never seen before what would a king do
would he get up his nerve go talk to her would he would he like uh try and find an excuse he didn't
he would take excuse me part that he would part to people and say listen i i haven't seen you
in my kingdom before and i would like to know you and or i'd like to see you and who are you
and tell me something about you you see that's it it's there's a there's a there's a
there's a there's a kindness in that that isn't challenging i'm not challenging you in any way so
it's the same thing as like not what can you want from me instead of that's in your spirit in your
heart as you're speaking to her i've seen some things you're not really saying this necessary but
it's from it's from your eyes from your demeanor from your spirit i've seen some things who is this
young girl and what can you teach me my dear i would love to know and they can feel that it's
literally welcoming her in your own adventure yeah yeah it's curiosity over challenging or
being honest because they can feel that it really affects a woman when you're genuinely curious and
it's impossible to be curious about something and self-conscious about yourself i always say that
seduction is all in the unspoken so whether it's when you're talking what is in between the lines
what you imply what is what is assumed what is you know it all these looks these just the gesture
just the movement same it's very similar to how girls actually seduce i think when you get to
the same level as they do which is a lot of this uh feminine actually feminine energy when you are
very fluent and fluid then magic starts to happen yeah it's like you know like any great musician
i read the autobiography of keith richards and you look at chopin you know and and these
different components of that they all had the same feeling which is the what makes the music really
come alive is this is the is the tension and the spaces between the notes and when you don't and
when you have that tension in in a conversation with women it's fantastic so it's like sitting in
tension like you said um keeping that that spaces and the and the energy in between in between the
notes incredible it's a dance the first book i read on this topic was the art of seduction
and such a long book but i could not put it down all these stories and it's it's a little similar
to your book in terms of like the stories that it tells and you pick up that feeling and then i went
right into the pickup stuff because i was so new and i didn't really know too much and i mean i was
getting results with that but it wasn't really until i started learning more of the seduction
more of the energy more of the dance that it really became satisfying beyond a one night stand
that the sex you know that that uh finishing of the tension was so much deeper and and literally
spiritual it was it really awoken me to the beauty of life of just even walking down the street and
knowing i don't have to approach every single woman i see just because she's beautiful i can
have enjoyment just really appreciating her beauty which puts you in such a high vibration
it puts you in such a deep gratitude and happiness for life because a woman i mean is god's greatest
gift to man that's right and it makes you believe in good like but what you learn over the years
is plain speaking is the most incredible thing you can do just to speak it plain
and say you know what i don't know you and i just met you and i would like to see you again
i like you and i don't know why i like you but i would like to explore that you know that's
fantastic that's got wheels and and so it's like it's we settled in you can become this manipulator
by learning quote unquote how to talk and how to wheel and this kind of stuff or you can you become
you know get a bunch of money in a yacht and a ferrari and women in bikinis will glom onto you
you know but at the end of it even those guys and i've coached guys like this who are saying well
you know i'm in the in in in the club here in new york city and i've got i've got the the crystal
bottles holding up in the air like this and the girls come to my table and and they're all around
and when the lights come on the girls dissipate and it's gone and i go back to my penthouse
alone and so you think you know what is the measure of man what is what's the point of it
if you're not if you're not adored if you're not if you don't have devotion
we can get girls we get the bikini girls around us right by different things
we can get laid but if you don't have that real kind devotion that cares about you and really
really wants you to succeed wants to inspire you then that's what we're hungry for and that's
what we're missing and that's you know and then what's the point imagine this in all of history
in all the cultures of all of history the men have been doing their battles building bridges
uh doing all this kind of stuff and the women are trying to get their attention yeah and now we're
trying to get the women's attention on tinder yeah like you know like what can i do to get hurt
we're trying to get the attention of the girls which is completely opposite was ever been
and and and we're trying to supplicate and do all the kind of stuff to get their attention on us and
all of history's been the other way around the women of like uh don't forget us we go you know
please come back to me you know and it's like it's something and now we're the roles have changed and
we're this like sucky supplicant that's like crawling on her knees doing everything we can
just to get noticed on tinder in real life they it's like they're the ones that bat you away and
you know it's like something's upside down and we can feel it in our hearts it's like wait a minute
thanks man i appreciate you being on the show yeah i'm happy to be here guys and good work you know
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and especially those beautiful women you've always dreamed of so thanks for watching this segment of
the attractive man podcast with our special guest zan perrion and we will see you on the next one