we found out of course about the essays program to spy on us is that a couple of
different elements first of all
that your course of the phone company is their relaying
hui called how long we spent on those calls the centre
they call this metadata 'cause they're not listening to the content
on the phone call and see the specific war that's good
that's not good they're collecting them added metadata but at least in alice in
the content they say
baby damien with free trade
but then there's a second program called present
where they love your emails your at google searches your
the websites you've been to etcetera
and their they do look at the content
this is merely directed
to that outside world not within the united states but loops
here is that we collect a lot of information
on outside world as well in fact
the have another program called boundless informant
that's just in the data
uh... that prison collects
and that then tells is collected was
three billion pieces from inside the united states
hundred billion pieces worldwide
so three billion pieces
that's not that march
except for the fact of course that is a tremendous amount
now when u
passages clapper about any of us can read the new play
who's really interesting that he's director of national drug use
listen to what his answer is on whether the and make like this is back for march
of twenty thirty
does buchanan st collected any type
of data at all
on millions for hundreds of millions of americans
nose sore
it does not
not wittingly
there are cases where they could inadvertently
perhaps
uh... collect but not not willingly
that was a awesome piece of the uh...
uh... cannot mean i'm not looking at you and i'm kind of schedule and not
willingly
perhaps inadvertently would like to bring the invisible about american
citizens
but it was totally inadvertent
okay that's a guy were supposedly
the guy by the way whose job is partly to deceive us i don't know how the rest
of the media is like a or government officials you must be a ride
billy carlos nuno wrong you kidding the the sc baghdad as in the c_i_a_
they're trained to lie as part of their job
pelleted i've trained very well there's this guy is the worst lie in the world
now when you go to the actually going find out who he is of course in this
and word stub
and uh... he enemy with glenn greenwald and that was on tape
bay he did this in hong kong
first of all he said look
as to why he revealed himself
quote i have no intention of hiding why a m
final are done nothing wrong
now i believe that that is true and i believe that he's an american patriot
now of course
not a lot of other people agree this tablets with is enough
jerry over 'em
including some calls for execution
but mainly the republicans and democrats agree regarding the bad guy bad guy
the worker with the chinese is in our car
so was actually listen this note and see why he did
when you are subverting the power of government that that's par for the
mostly dangerous thing to democracy
if you do that in secret consistently you know as the government does uh...
what it wants to benefit from a secret action that it took
uh... it'll kind of give its its officials a mandate to go hey you know
tell the press about this thing and that think so public is on our side but they
rarely if ever do that when it abuse occurs that falls to uh... individual
citizens and i'm willing to go on the record to defend the authenticity of
them and say i didn't change decided modify the store this is the truth this
is what's happening
you should decide whether we need to be doing this thing about that that's a
great point
well you're what's really something off it lease it like
phrase even with people use a dual times although baba why i'm delighted to see
the way we tell them yet we demand we did that we did that
in fact was really so much of a raising of it all moving out of it all together
for you
it badly on panetta leaked top-secret information but the filmmaker for zero
dark thirty was an odd we recently learned that
and i'm ceremony for the c_i_a_
when it's convenient
but when the government is doing something wrong
they're not going to lead it
that falls on the whistle blowers
like snowed
but when he does of course he set upon by the establishment
trader defector etcetera
but you need a hand
housing in a find out what your government is doing wrong in democracy
and those you are an omelet young turks on current
and she's a former c_i_a_ operative it she said look internal there's almost
nothing you can do
to stop this
well wait
uh... you don't train white x twenty nine-year-olds indigo stimulus ivy your
abusing the constitution
and clearly violating america's privacy rights
their reaction would be no
how quickly we plan on skype
this is not only realistic way
to bring attention to this issue to the american people
scalpels
it's giving the poorest you don't have to have done anything wrong
you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody even by wrong
call
and then we can use the system to call
back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made
every friend you've ever discussed something with
and attack you on that basis to sort of derive suspicion from in innocent life
and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer eliminated two things here
number one defused at least enormous dragnet one hundred billion piece of
information on prism alone and we are in town in the phones on that one andy
again all this information which is incredibly hard to sift through and get
relevant data on right
and what is it do
there helpless top boss sent no how about the underwear moment no
out of the times where bomber no what lead times for obama not or bob didn't
go off
they've been doing this all along
they didn't get those guys
well my view is incredibly hard to find those guys
the program is not doing its job in that sense but is it really its job now
what's really easy with this program is that once you have collected the data
and you want to target somebody
well that's super easy
and they might use it in two ways and i hope they do that hey we know we got a
lead on this guy uh... let's go ahead and find out his information those who
wish to find out which websites but i am but for that you can get a warrant
that's probably legal and everybody would agree to it
now what if you wanted to do was targets someone because they're
against your political positions are against the government
new era problems right now but i i i think the as of the i_r_s_
the magic with a republican president president or agree with you don't
think is on the level
he can turn to someone else in the government and eric
and that was a total distrust your government
bush was doing and so what kind of spying in peggy was in the content of
the phone calls anne insurers all along outwards harmony on kato inducted
and that we find out the a_t_c_ news report in two thousand eight
that in fact they were listening to the private calls of our troops in iraq
and not just our there cause when they listen to my list
phone sex
and you think that there is a somebody who didn't like a general there and they
will receive it in on generals
or private and could use that information
against them and then have a government officials are worried taken down i'm not
saying the n_s_a_ get it
but at least i serve governor of new york
the toughest guy the whole country has wall street
all will you look at that we had a federal investigation that was helped by
private detectives hired by the financial industry who happen to find
information from his bank that eventually led to an escort service
entered on the governor
coming to you that we find that info
another side to this program
but through individual targeting of opponents
if you think they can't do that
you're not paying attention
they can definitely do that
here's more from stone
the n_s_a_ specifically
targets the communications of everyone in ingest some by default it collects
the minute system it filters then analyzes the minute measures the minutes
stores them any enlisted anytime can target any one any selector anywhere i
said in my desk uh... certainly had the authorities to to wiretap anyone
from gives you or your account to a federal judge to even the president of
the head of personal email
well trust the government what misuse that power
now it'll be perfectly fine
just given government all the power
and sent back and relax in
let them but big brother k_k_r_
this is why you don't do it right and this is what you get a warrant
for specific
person or place in the search or seize
that is the fourth
amendment
what they're doing is clear
one hundred percent against the for them and i got a good larry's
twenty said to me today
saying that i was a conspiracy theorist for saying this against the fourth
amendment
have you read before that
if this is exactly somewhere because i guess there is a very i read the
amendments that's the conspiracy
helped out how is this is not exactly who haven't had a sick
how is it not a conspiracy
here at the n_s_a_ now admits it yes
we did do prize in
and getting your phone information on metadata
yes there is a prism program
now use so-called distressing wife
because if you're a republican and your brother published out of the g_o_p_ is
always right g_o_p_'s always right
if you're not bobble or list
pulp out there are no question the great leader all barbanel he always has our
best interest of mine
that's why i was always struck by the a leader
but that's not how a democracy is supposed to work
and he along with george w_ bush
work and continue to be
clearer violation before them in the united states constitutive