LIZ: A STEEL CAGE DEATH MATCH
KIND OF HAPPENING IN SILICON
VALLEY BETWEEN GOOGLE-OWNED
YOUTUBE AND FACEBOOK.
THE PRIZE, BIG MONEY CYBERSTARS
AND INTERNET INFLUENCERS.
THIS AS FAMOUS YOUTUBERS ARE
ACCUSING FACEBOOK OF TAKING
MONEY RIGHT OUT OF THEIR
POCKETS.
BUT WHILE FACEBOOK COURTS NEW
CONTENT CREATORS AND YOUTUBE
ROLLS OUT A TON OF GLITZY
FEATURES, WE HAVE THIS BREAKING
NEWS.
THE TICK-TOCK, THE FOURTH MOST
DOWNLOADED APP IN THE WORLD IS
NOW TAKING A PAGE OUT OF
INSTAGRAM'S PLAYBOOK,
EXPERIMENTING WITH SIMILAR
FEATURES INCLUDING A GRID STYLE
LAYOUT AND DISCOVER PAGE.
OUR NEXT GUEST KNOWS A THING OR
TWO ABOUT JUMPING FROM PLATFORM
TO PLATFORM WITH HIS VIRAL VIDEO
CONTENT.
HE'S A CONTROVERSIAL 24-YEAR-OLD
MEGASTAR MAKING CRAZY DAILY
VLOGS WITH MORE THAN 19 MILLION
YOUTUBE SUBSCRIBERS.
60 MILLION FOLLOWERS ACROSS ALL
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.
HE RAKES IN ABOUT $15 MILLION A
YEAR.
HE'S INTERNET FAMOUS LOGAN PAUL,
HOST OF THE IMPAULSIVE PODCAST.
>> YES, NUMBER ONE PODCAST IN
THE WORLD.
I HAVE TO STOP YOU THERE.
YOU USED THE WORD CONTROVERSIAL.
LIZ: YES.
>> JUST SO YOU KNOW, I AM AN
EX-CONTROVERSIAL YOUTUBER.
LIZ: I KNOW THAT.
I KNOW THAT.
WE CAN GET TO THAT.
WHAT MAKES YOU IN A WAY
CONTROVERSIAL IS YOUR
MEGASTARDOM AND IT CAN'T BE A
SURPRISE TO YOU THAT YOU HAVE
THIS COMPETITION BLOSSOMING NOW
WITH FACEBOOK TRYING TO PLAY
CATCH-UP WITH YOUTUBE.
HOW DO YOU SEE THAT BATTLE?
>> EVERY BIG PLATFORM WANTS TO
BE THE VIDEO PLATFORM.
VIDEO IS HUGE NOW.
I THINK IT'S STATISTICALLY, YOU
MIGHT KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST
THINGS KIDS ARE CONSUMING.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF I
DON'T REALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT.
I'M KIND OF JUST LIKE OUT HERE.
LIZ: YOU ARE SORT OF AT A
PIVOTAL MOMENT, I'M SURE.
YOU'RE LIKE, I'M SORT OF OUT
HERE, YOU KNOW, I'M IN NEW YORK,
I'M IN CALIFORNIA, I'M FROM
OHIO, RIGHT?
>> OHIO, RIGHT.
LIZ: GO, BROWNS.
>> CLEVELAND, OHIO.
GO, BROWNS.
GO, INDIANS.
LIZ: LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
YOU GOT A CLEVELAND FAN HERE.
WE'RE AT THIS PIVOTAL MOMENT
WHERE EVERYBODY WANTS TO PLAY
CATCH-UP BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT
BUSINESS.
YOU'RE WITH YOUTUBE.
I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW,
YOU'RE SPREAD ELSEWHERE TOO,
RIGHT?
>> I'M EVERYWHERE, BABY.
I'M EVERYWHERE AND NOWHERE.
I'M LIKE A GHOST.
LIZ: BUT FACEBOOK IS ACTUALLY
INACTIVE.
YOUR FACEBOOK ACCOUNT IS
INACTIVE.
>> WHY YOU HAVE TO CALL ME OUT
LIVE?
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
TECHNICALLY, YES.
LIZ: YOU GOT 16 MILLION PEOPLE
STILL FOLLOWING AN INACTIVE
FACEBOOK?
>> ODD, RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW.
I NEED TO OPTIMIZE THAT ACCOUNT.
LIZ: WHY HAVEN'T YOU, IS WHAT
I'M SAYING?
>> CAN I SAY THIS?
LIZ: YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING.
>> [ INAUDIBLE ] DOES A BETTER
JOB OF MONETIZING FOR THE
CREATORS.
THAT'S THE HOME FREE AS A
CREATOR WHERE NOT ONLY CAN MY
CONTENT BE SEEN, CONSUMED,
DIGESTED BUT ALSO, THEY PAY.
I THINK FACEBOOK JUST GOT INTO
MONETIZING CONTENT.
I'M SO SORRY, FACEBOOK AND
INSTAGRAM.
BUT YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF AN
AUDIENCE IS THERE.
LIZ: YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH SET ON
YOUTUBE, CORRECT?
>> FOR NOW.
LIZ: YOU KNOW HOW THESE THINGS
WORK.
WHEN UPSTARTS COME IN, AND THEY
DO HAVE MONEY BEHIND THEM,
THEY'RE NOT SOME LITTLE GUY,
THEY WILL TRY AND NAB YOU.
HAVE YOU BEEN APPROACHED BY
FACEBOOK TO JUMP OVER THERE
EXCLUSIVELY?
>> NO.
LIZ: ARE YOU LYING OR TELLING ME
THE TRUTH?
>> THAT'S THE TRUTH.
LIZ: IF THEY DID, AS A
BUSINESSMAN, YOU HAVE A PAYROLL
NOW, RIGHT?
YOU'RE THE ONE SIGNING THE
CHECKS.
>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
I WILL SAY MY EXPENSES JUST
SURPASSED MY INCOME FOR THE
FIRST TIME EVER.
I JUST SAT WITH MY FINANCIAL
MANAGER.
HE TOLD ME THAT.
I'M DEFINITELY GOING DOWNHILL
FROM HERE.
LIZ: DOES THAT MAKE YOU NERVOUS?
>> I'M TERRIFIED.
I THINK IT'S THE BEGINNING OF
THE END.
LIZ: COME ON.
>> I ALSO HAVE PINKEYE.
SO THIS WHOLE THING IS LIKE --
LIZ: DON'T TOUCH THE SET.
>> I'M SO SORRY.
IT'S NOT CONTAGIOUS.
NO, IT IS.
THERE'S A TWO-WEEK INCUBATION
PERIOD.
I'M SO SORRY.
LIZ: YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN
JUMPING SHIP.
>> WHAT'S THE INCENTIVE?
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
I THINK WHERE DO PEOPLE WATCH
CONTENT THE MOST.
THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO POST, TO
BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I'M SLIGHTLY NOT SO CONCERNED
WITH MONEY.
MAYBE THAT'S WHY MY EXPENSES
HAVE SURPASSED MY INCOME AND
PROBABLY NOT THE BEST THING.
I WANT TO BE POSTING WHERE MY
CONTENT IS GOING TO BE SEEN AND
CONSUMED.
LIZ: THEN WHAT'S YOUR SECRET,
I'M ASKING YOU TO REVEAL IT, TO
BUILDING AN AUDIENCE?
WE HAVE PEOPLE WATCHING RIGHT
NOW WHO THINK OH, I COULD DO A
CHANNEL, TOO, I'M KIND OF QUIRKY
AND FUNNY.
HOW DO YOU BUILD AN AUDIENCE?
>> AUTHENTICITY.
I REALLY BELIEVE IT IS
AUTHENTICITY.
IF YOU CAN BE YOURSELF AND
PEOPLE LIKE YOU, YOU'RE GOLDEN.
THE ISSUE IS SOMETIMES WHEN
PEOPLE ARE THEMSELVES, LIKE WHAT
IF YOU SUCK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A
GOOD CHANCE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
RESONATE AND BE RELATABLE TO
PEOPLE.
YOU GOT TO BE A GOOD-HEARTED
POSITIVE PERSON AND A LOT OF
YOUTUBERS I MET ARE.
BUT YEAH.
LIZ: YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE HAD
FOLLOWERS GO EVERYWHERE WITH
YOU, THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE
UGLY.
OBVIOUSLY THE SITUATION IN LATE
2017 WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD
SOME OFFENSIVE CONTENT FROM THIS
JAPANESE SUICIDE FORCE, IT'S NOT
THIS IS HOW WE FEEL HERE, IT'S
NOT HOW PEOPLE FALL, IT'S HOW
AND WHETHER THEY GET UP.
YOU GOT UP.
YOU DID A VERY COMPELLING
APOLOGY VIDEO.
MY KIDS HAD ME WATCH THIS.
I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKED IT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY GOOD.
>> THANK YOU.
LIZ: YOU DIDN'T TAKE ANY MONEY
FROM THAT.
YOU DIDN'T PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE
YOUR MOUTH WAS.
>> QUITE THE OPPOSITE.
LIZ: YOU PUT THE DOLLARS ASIDE.
>> EXACTLY.
LIZ: TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE
DOING NOW, THE CHALLENGER GAME.
>> THIS IS A GREAT THING.
IF I'M BEING QUITE HONEST WITH
YOU, I'M THE FASTEST YOUTUBER,
THE FASTEST ENTERTAINER ON THE
PLANET.
LIZ: TALKING ABOUT RUNNING.
>> I COULD BE THE QUICKEST MAN
ON THE PLANET.
LIZ: YOU PLAYED FOOTBALL IN HIGH
SCHOOL, WEST LAKE HIGH SCHOOL.
>> I'M BETTING $100,000 I'M THE
FASTEST MAN ON THE PLANET.
LIZ: I JUST WANT TO ASK OUR
VIEWERS, HAVE YOU SEEN HIM DO
THE SPLITS?
HOW DO YOU -- I CAN'T DO THE
SPLITS.
>> I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO.
WHY CAN I DO THE SPLITS.
THAT'S WEIRD.
I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH MYSELF,
YOU KNOW.
BUT THE CHALLENGER GAMES, JULY
27th, THIS SATURDAY, WE ARE
GETTING THE BIGGEST ENTERTAINERS
IN THE WORLD, BIGGEST YOUTUBERS
ON THE PLANET, WE WILL RACE AND
SEE WHO'S THE FASTEST.
IT'S FOR CHARITY.
SPECIAL OLYMPICS JUST CONFIRMED.
LIZ: EXCELLENT.
>> GOOD JOB.
YEAH.
WE RAISED A BUNCH OF MONEY.
IT'S GOING TO BE LIVESTREAMED
WITH A DONATION LINK.
GET YOUR TICKETS.
LIZ: YOU HAVE THE PAY PER VIEW
FIGHT WITH KFI?
G?
I?
L?
>> KFI.
LIZ: THIS GUY THAT YOU FOUGHT.
YOU MADE A LOT OF MONEY THERE.
>> I SHOULD HAVE MADE MORE.
I SHOULD HAVE MADE MORE.
LIZ: WHY?
>> THE STREAM WAS PIRATED
ILLEGALLY TWO MILLION TIMES.
THERE'S $20 MILLION.
LIZ: YOU WILL HAVE A SECOND
FIGHT WHEN?
>> END OF THIS YEAR.
LIZ: WHERE?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
THE STAPLES CENTER OR THE FORUM.
LIZ: CAN FOX BUSINESS COME AND
COVER THAT?
>> I THINK SO.
YOUR DAUGHTER JUST NODDED AT ME
YES.
I THINK SO.
HEY, IT'S JUST LIKE KFI.
I'M GOING TO BEAT YOU BADLY.
LIZ: OH, BOY.
BY THE WAY, LOGAN IS GOING TO BE
A GUEST ON MY EVERYONE TALKS TO
LIZ PODCAST.
>> OH, GREAT.
LIZ: HE WILL HAVE TO TEACH ME
HOW TO GET A MILLION VIEWS PER
PODCAST.
>> WHICH I CAN DO BECAUSE AS YOU
KNOW, I AM THE HOST OF THE
NUMBER ONE PODCAST IN THE WORLD.
LIZ: YOU SURE ARE.
CONGRATULATIONS.
LOGAN PAUL, THE YOUTUBE
SENSATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.