>>
>> THIS
>> THIS IS FLASHPOINT WERE POWER AND POLITICS COLLIDE IN THE TOUGH QUESTIONS GET ASKED
AND ANSWERED.
>> HAPPY SAID THEY.
ON BEN THOMPSON AND JOINING ME
TODAY, THE COMMISSIONER SOUDAN
HARDEN, BRAD OVERCAST, TO MY
DIRECT RIGHT AND LARRY WAS
WORKING WITH CAROLINA
REEVALUATION SERVICES.
I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN.
AS OF THIS TAPING, THE
GOVERNMENT IS STILL SHUTDOWN.
SUNDAY, TODAY WILL MAKE DAY 30
THAT SHUTDOWN.
MORE THAN 800,000 FEDERAL
EMPLOYEES STOLE THE PAY.
IS HAVING A RIPPLE EFFECT
ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ACROSS
THE KENNY BE.
IN ITS MOST BASIC TERMS,
MORTGAGES NOT BEING PAID, RIGHT
NOT BEING PAID AND BILLS NOT
BEING BAIT.
HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI
ASKED HIS PRESIDENT TO
RESCHEDULE STATE OF THE UNION
BE THE CAUSE OF IT.
>> THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
WORKING ON LOGISTICS AND THE
SECURITY OF IT.
MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE EITHER
FOR LOAD OR VICTIMS OF THE
SHUTDOWN, OF THE PRESIDENT
SHUTDOWN.
>> THE HOMELAND SECURITY
SECRETARY SAYS HER DEPARTMENT
AND THE SECRET SERVICE ARE
FULLY PREPARED AND SUPPORT THE
STATE OF THE UNION IS A BY THE
SHUTDOWN.
I WILL GO THROUGH ALL THREE OF
YOU AND GET YOUR VISION OF
WHAT'S NEXT AND WHAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED AND HOW DO WE GET OUT
OF THIS?
I'LL START WITH YOU.
>> WELL, THE DEMOCRATS WILL
HAVE TO GET REASONABLE AND QUIT
PLAYING POLITICS WITH THE
SHUTDOWN.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS
MAKING A VERY SIMPLE REQUEST,
JUST OVER $5 BILLION FOR A
BORDER WALL.
IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST.
DEMOCRATS HAVE SUPPORTED NEARLY
$70 BILLION IN BORDER SECURITY
INCLUDING THE WALL, STARTING
BACK IN 2013.
THIS IS PURE POLITICS BY THE
WAYS AND THEY WILL HAVE TO COME
TO THEIR SENSES IN ORDER FOR
THE SHUTDOWN TO AND.
>> SUSAN, I SEE ME SEE
DIFFERENTLY.
>> I PRESIDENT TRUMP HIM
COULDN'T GET THIS DONE WHEN HE
HAD CONTROL OF BOTH THE HOUSE
AND SENATE.
I THINK IT IS REALLY CLEAR THAT
PEOPLE DON'T WANT THIS WALL
LEGISLATION AND I THINK THE
PERSON WHO'S GOING TO HAVE TO
COMPROMISE IS THE PRESIDENT.
>> I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH
THE COMMISSIONER.
SHE IS MY COMMISSIONER.
BUT, I THINK THE ONE THING, THE
REASON WAS ABLE TO GET THAT ON
IS YOU CAN GET THE 60 VOTES IN
THE SENATE.
NOW, BECAUSE YOUR PRESIDENT AND
YOU HAVE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN
THE SENATE, THEY'RE WILLING TO
PROVIDE TO GET THINGS DONE.
I THINK THE MOST BORING THING
AS FAR AS THE DEMOCRATS TO SEE
THIS AS OPPORTUNITY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS ON
IMMIGRATION THEY WOULD LIKE TO
SEE.
I THINK YOU HAVE A PRESENT
REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO ARE
WILLING TO SAY WE ARE WILLING
TO COVER MY SING AT THIS
GOVERNMENT REOPENED AS LONG AS
YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE
ABSOLUTE NONNEGOTIABLE IS
MAKING SURE THAT YOU PAY FOR
THE WALL.
IT WAS ME AND I WAS IN THIS
POSITION, I WOULD LOOK OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND SAY HERE'S
A LIST AND WILL TELL YOU WHAT
WE CAN LIVE AT AND LET'S REOPEN
THE GOVERNMENT.
>> I IS APPLE ONLY RIGHT.
>> LET'S GO BACK TO DO THIS.
YOU REFERRED TO IT.
BUT I MEAN REPUBLICANS ARE IN
COMPLETE CONTROL FOR THE LAST 2
YEARS.
NO UTTERANCE OF THE SHUTDOWN
THEN.
NOW THE DEMOCRATS ARE HERE AND
NOTES A SHUTDOWN.
>> GIVE THE VIEWERS AT HOME A
GOOD REASON WHY THIS COULD NOT
HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 2
YEARS OF HIS ADMINISTRATION?
>> I WILL AT BRAD GOPHERS.
>> I MEAN, WITH ANY NEW
ADMINISTRATION,
>> PEOPLE ARE THINKING THIS IS
THEATRICS.
WE COULD'VE DONE THIS THE LAST
2 YEARS.
YOU HAVE THE HOUSE, YOU HAD THE
SENATE, YET THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH.
WHY NOW?
>> I THINK THE REPUBLICANS
DON'T WANT IT.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT
THIS IS A REALLY GREAT
QUESTION.
AND, IF THEY REALLY WANTED IT,
WHY DID THEY NOT MAKE IT
HAPPEN?
>> I THINK THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
OF COURSE THE REPUBLICANS
WANTED.
A MAJORITY OF THE AMERICANS
WANT TO SECURE SOUTHERN BORDER.
LET'S PUT THIS IN CONTEXT.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT $5.7
BILLION.
THE FEDERAL BUDGET, IS GOING TO
BE $4.4 TRILLION.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
>> BACK TO BORDER SECURITY.
EVERYBODY BELIEVES IN IT.
NOBODY DOES NOT BELIEVE IN IT.
IT COMES DOWN TO SEMANTICS OF
WHAT A BALL IS.
>> I WILL DISAGREE WITH YOU.
AGAIN IT COMES TO COMPROMISING.
IT COMES FROM WORKING TOGETHER.
IN THE SENATE, WE HAD HOUSE
THOSE AT ALL BY THE REPUBLICANS
TO GET ANYTHING PAST.
YOU HAD HAVE SOMETHING THAT
COULD BE LIFTED BY 60 MEMBERS
OF THE SENATE.
NOW YOU HAVE DEMOCRATICALLY
CONTROLLED HOUSE AND THAT
INCLUDES BORDER FUNDING.
>> THAT IS REPUBLICANS ARE YOU
GET THEIR PEOPLE ON BOARD.
>> I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH
YOU.
>> YOU CAN'T BLAME THE
DEMOCRATS.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
AMERICANS TO RISE ABOVE AND
BOTH PARTIES TO COME TOGETHER
FOR A SOLUTION.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO RISE UP,
>> I THINK REPUBLICANS WHEN
THEY HAD TO SWAY FEW IN THE
PARTY, YOU WORK FOR THE
SHUTDOWN THEN.
>> OH NO, THE FREEDOM CAUCUS
ABSENTLY SHUTDOWN.
>> A SHUTDOWN WASN'T HAPPENING.
NOW THE DEMOCRATS ARE IN.
>> I GREW THEM.
I THINK WE NEED BROAD
IMMIGRATION REFORM. I THINK
THIS AN OPPORTUNITY, WE HAVE TO
WORK TOGETHER.
>> ARE BOTH SIDES JUST DIGGING
IN THEIR HEELS?
DEMOCRATS DON'T WANT TO GIVE
HIM A WALL.
HE IS NOW SAYING STILL SLATS
ROLLER BUT HE HAS TO FULFILL
ONE OF HIS BIGGEST CAMPAIGN
PLEDGE AND THAT IS A WALL.
>> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO COME TOGETHER AS
AMERICANS TO PROVE WE CAN STILL
COMPROMISE, WE CAN STILL WORK
TOGETHER, WE CAN WALK AWAY.
YOU TELL ME?
WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU SEE
ABOUT A GOOD COMPROMISE?
NOBODY WANTS WAY COMPLETELY
HAPPY.
THERE'S BEEN HAVE TO BE GIVE-
AND-TAKE.
>> I WANT TO BUT THE PEOPLE
AFFECTED BY THIS.
THESE OTHER WORKERS.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL
AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SESSION
SPEAKS OUT.
HE SAYS DRIVER CONTROLS ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING ABOUT 2
MILLION PEOPLE SAFE IN THE SKY
EACH AND EVERY DAY.
HERE IN CHARLOTTE, A TEAM OF
MORE THAN 150 PEOPLE GOING
WITHOUT PAY RIGHT NOW.
>> IF YOU'RE MARRIED AND HAD
THREE KIDS AND YOUR WIFE
DOESN'T WORK AND YOU ARE READY
HAVE THE STRESS OF THIS JOB,
HOW LONG COULD YOU SUSTAIN NOT
GETTING A CHECK OR GETTING 1
ZEROS ON THEM BACK ON TOP OF
THAT, IT'S INDEFINITE.
WE DON'T KNOW IF ILL AND
TOMORROW OR NEXT MONTH.
>> SCHOLLETT NOT THE ONLY
EFFORT BEEN AFFECTED.
IN HOUSTON, ONE OF TSA
CHECKPOINTS WAS CLOSE THIS WEEK
DUE TO STAFFING SHORTAGES.
IN ATLANTA, THE BUSIEST AIRPORT
IN THE UNITED STATES, THEIR
TRAVELING TRAVELERS IT MAY TAKE
THEM UP TO THREE HOURS TO GET
THROUGH SECURITY.
I HEARD SIX HOURS AS WELL.
THESE ARE THE REAL PEOPLE
AFFECTED BY THIS WHO MIGHT NOT
GO BY DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN
BUT THEY ARE THE ONES REALLY
BEING AFFECTED.
WILL WE START TALKING ABOUT
GOING WEEKS AND WEEKS WITHOUT
PAY, HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE
EXPECTED TO DO IT?
>> I HOPE THE SPEAKER LISTENS
TO THAT.
SPEAKER PELOSI IS HOLDING UP
THESE FOLKS GOING BACK TO WORK
OVER A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF
THE FEDERAL BUDGET.
OVER A BORDER WALL THAT
DEMOCRATS HAVE VOTED TO SUPPORT
SINCE 2013. TO THE TUNE OF
NEARLY 70 OR OVERS $70 BILLION.
SHE'S PLAYING POLITICS WITH
THESE FOLKS JOBS.
SHE'S THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO
REOPEN THIS.
>> THE PRESIDENT SAID I WILL
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS.
HE SAID IT. HE WAS CLEAR.
AND SO, I THINK WE SHOULD
FOLLOW THROUGH ON OF THE
PRESIDENT SAYS AND MAKE THEM
RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.
>> EVEN BIGGER THAN THESE
800,000 PEOPLE NOT WORKING, HE
TALKS ABOUT THE 2 MILLION
PEOPLE IN THE SKIES EVERY DAY.
CAN WE ROLL THE SOUNDBITE AND
WAKE UP CHARLOTTE TALKING TO
SECURITY EXPERTS WHO SAY DON'T
THINK SOME NASTY INDIVIDUALS
OVERSEAS ARE NOT PAYING
ATTENTION TO THIS.
SOME TERRORIST GROUPS ARE NOT
PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS.
THEY AREN'T SEEING THIS AS A
WINK LINK IN OUR SECURITY
SYSTEM.
THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE ADDED. THAT IS SCARY.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU.
THAT MEANS THE PRESSURE TO FIND
A COMPROMISE IS LIVABLE FOR
EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO
REALIZE?
THE FAR RIGHT AND THE FAR LEFT,
THE POLITICIANS IN WASHINGTON
NEED TO LOOK AT BOTH FAR LEFT
AND FAR LEFT AND SAY WE ARE
GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S IN
THE BEST INTEREST OF THE
COUNTRY.
IF YOU DON'T TRUST US, GET RID
OF US.
BUT WE HAVE TO GOT TO DO
SOMETHING NOW.
THE SECURITY ISSUE I AGREE
WITH.
OTHER COUPLE OF PERSONNEL WE
CAN DO WITHOUT AND PROBABLY
HAVE NONESSENTIAL FOLKS BE
THERE AND WE GOING TO BE OKAY?
YES, BUT ACREAGE OF THE
SECURITY ISSUES.
BUT THAT JUST UNDERSCORES THE
NEED, THE MOST IMPORTANT
PRESSING ISSUE, THE COMPROMISE
AND FINDING A SOLUTION WE CAN
LIVE WITH AND MOVING ON.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY ARE THE
FOREIGN ACTORS NOT LOOKING AT
THE SITUATION AND NOTICING THE
POOREST SON BORDEN, SOUTHERN
BORDER?
THE WALL WILL HELP
SIGNIFICANTLY.
>> YOU LOOK CONSISTENTLY AT THE
DATA AND IT DOESN'T SHOW THE
TERRACE COMING ACROSS THE
BORDERS.
THE COMING ACROSS PORTS OF
ENTRY AND THROUGH THE AIRPORTS
AND THAT IS ALSO THE BIGGEST
THING.
>> THIS ISN'T HOW WE RESOLVE
OUR DIFFERENCES.
WE DON'T SHUT DOWN THE
GOVERNMENT TO DO THAT.
THE WAY RESOLVE OUR DIVERSE,
DIFFERENCES A THROUGH
COMPROMISE.
OUR FOOD STAMP RECIPIENTS ARE
SAID TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS AND
WERE STARTING TO SEAFOOD LUNCH
PROGRAMS BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
IT IS TIME TO END THE SHUTDOWN.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT THE SKIES
AND FROM THE SKIES TO THE
SCHOOLS, THE SHUTDOWN IMPACTING
KIDS SCHOOL LUNCHES.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE SAYING
IS ACTUALLY CUTTING BACK ON
ITEMS INCLUDING THE SCHOOL
LUNCH.
SAYING THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN
HAS LET THEM NO CHOICE TO
CONSERVE FOOD AND FUNDING.
THE DISTRICT POSTED ON THEIR
FACEBOOK PAGE THAT DUE TO THE
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN THEY WILL
BE REDUCING SCHOOL LUNCHES
STARTING MONDAY.
THE DISTRICT SAYS NO FRESH
PRODUCE IS BEING INCLUDED IN
THE SCHOOL LUNCHES ACCEPT AT
ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AS PART OF A
SPECIFIC PROGRAM.
HOWEVER, THE PROGRAM ITSELF
WILL BE CUT DOWN TO TWO DAYS
AWAY.
AS THIS CONTINUES, FOLKS ON
CAPITOL HILL STILL GETTING PAID
, LOBBYISTS ARE STILL GETTING