well hello everybody woo buddy it's been a while since i've seen you been a while since you seen me
landscape my whole front yard at least the first half of it down the hill which i've always hated
mowing oh what i did was i put the work in now about two weeks and two days to get this thing
done single-handedly so really this video today is just uh some stuff that i've kind of shot in the
last few weeks and never really finished to put out and a good bit of it is about this hammock i'm
sitting in right now the haven tent which you know the the designer derrick he calls it a tent even
though it hangs like a hammock uh reason i was really interested in this at least it is something
different you know it's like when the amok dramore came out i was interested in it because it was a
different design and yes like this one and like the amok it's dependent on a pad for its shape
but that's that's not a deal buster for me a lot of us guys that are sort of set in our ways you
know the old the guys that have been hammock in a long time might find this one you know when we
take a first look at it go it's kind of seems kind of heavy you know it's got a pad but i'm going to
take it on a camping trip um that i'm going on tomorrow up in the boundary waters by myself and
give it a test ride i've napped in it a good bit it took me a little while to get used to it but
i do find it comfortable it's got pros and cons i'm gonna on this trip going up north i'm going to
bring my own tarp i'm going to put whoopee slings on it so i'm going to switch out the carabiners
before i go because these are really sort of those heavy steel ones and i'm going to use
some dutch [ __ ] because that's what i always use so i'll just throw my whoopie slings on with that
and really just try out the actual hammock part not crazy about the um
the tarp that comes with it i mean it doesn't leak it's fine but it hangs really low to the hammock
and you know i'm one of those guys that's kind of set in my tarp way i want a separate
tarp with a little bit more room and you know i'm not a guy that would ever sort of close
as this one's designed to do to kind of bring your tarp down and sort of you know toggle it down i i
want some airiness in my hammock but we all feel differently you know i always feel like you know
when you're when you're in a tent you're driving a car and when you're in a hammock you're kind of
riding a motorcycle you got some stuff hanging out well i'm hanging out here in the haven in the rain
and i've got the uh the tarp that it comes with configured on right now i'm really doing that
because we've had a lot of rain and i'm just sort of checking to see if we get any leaks from the
from where they sew in the toggles in the top and because this is the new version
of the tarp that derek has upgraded and i gotta say whenever you're putting out a new product
you know you've got to go through some trials and tribulations because the first version leaked but
you know he got right on it and took care of it and it seemed sealed now and i've not been
able to feel any water coming through where these toggles are right up here that's the toggle right
there and there's one down on the other end so so far really good looking up at the new version
of the tarp it's a little hard to see here maybe if it look close it is taped seam sealed with the
seam sealing tape and that is his new version and here's the toggle and that's outside on
the top of the tarp so when you roll up the tarp from the edges you know if you choose to do that
they've included these toggles on top and the first version of this and a lot of people don't
think of this when they sew into a ridgeline was leaking a lot i've had the tarp up in the rain for
a couple of days and i've not had any drips coming through and we've had some pretty hard rain so
that's a good thing now one thing about this tarp if you if you configure it the way it's
intended to where the tarp hooks on right to the carabiners that go to the end of the haven to
hook to the suspension it clips right on so your tarp ends up being pretty
low it hangs low in that configuration and that's part of his design and also
how you can pull the tarp down and uh close it totally flat there's a little hook right down
here piece of shock cord right there on the haven and that would hook
to this little hook right here so that comes down and hooks in the middle
now one thing about me i got into uh hammocks and even though this isn't really called a
hammock it does suspend it's called the haven tent well which is interesting because it's
it's kind i mean the closest thing is the bridge hammock though the spreader bars on
a bridge hammock are kind of down in the hammock these spreader bars are
up high so you're hanging down below them so at least it's a different design
but i noticed on a lot of his videos the tarp is a very small footprint so i guess if you have really
bad weather you bring it down and show you in a little while and it clips in in the middle and
on the two ends and same thing on the other side so you can have your tarp all the way down on you
there's a little vent up here behind some of these pockets so hopefully you get a little
airflow through there because this hammock is made out of a pu rip stop material so it's
i don't know the breathability of it but it's pretty waterproof so far i've not really had
any condensation so my only caveat is because i'm an old tried and true hammer is i would want to
suspend my tarp up a little bit higher to get it up off of me but so that's one of the things
about the haven the old tried and true hammer is going to have to make some adjustments to it
so let's take a look at this pretty flat
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pretty flat you know it feels like a bridge hammock my feet can flop out
that's comfortable pad is comfortable i don't mind it now here's a look at the haven
tent tarp on top of my warbonnet mini fly so the mini fly is the one that's sticking
out the furthest here is an 11 foot tarp so here you can get a an idea of the length of the tarp
that comes with the haven and here is how it hooks to your carabiner which also hooks
to the suspension so it makes for kind of a loose tarp i would prefer to see it pulled out like that
but then again you're talking to a guy that's pretty set in his ways daisy chain webbing
i'm hoping he's made this daisy chain webbing a little bit longer and i think
he has in the newer versions i found it to be a little bit short in my first trials
kind of run out of room pretty quickly with that especially if your tree is a
little bit thicker and you wrap it you tend to lose a little bit of this length quickly
one of the pros to this hammock is it's one of the easiest to set up on a ground pitch
you got a pad it's flat set it up crawl in good to go
here we are in full mosquito mode and that is removable and we've got the tarp removed so you
can see it better and the zippers start right down here get this little snap over the top to
kind of seal that little gap works pretty good you know camping i mean if one mosquito wanted
to really get in and work his way in there he could so one zipper starts on this side
and one zipper starts on this side
you can zip it all the way open
flip it back or use the little ties right here with the toggle
well one thing that's nice is uh you know the bug net is well off my face
so you got a lot of view and so that's a good thing not right on top of you and
as i lay here here's the spreader bar and when i want to get out reach up unzip it
and it's pretty interesting for the ridgeline it's it's almost a it's a piece of mule tape
i don't know if that's 3 8 or maybe maybe it's half inch but you know you can really
grab onto that getting in and out of this thing to help yourself get in and out so
and that is built into the whole suspension which goes under there to him
and there you go with no bug net
kind of down so here
anyway i i think it's pretty cool um it's a different idea i love that about it it's not
the same old thing all right here's the haven tarp by itself we're gonna weigh that right
quickly well that is one pound 4.5 ounces we'll go to so that's 20.55 ounces that's 583 grams and
that's with everything on it that's what the lines on it here is my black crow tarp that i'm going to
bring it's much larger and it's in snake skins and has all of its lines 15.3 ounces and grams
434 grams so i'm going to get a little more coverage and have a
and save a little weight with this tarp now we're going to weigh the haven insulated pad
there's the dimensions right there actually uh 24 inches wide 24 inches wide by 78 by 4 inches thick
it's got an r value of r4 which i think is down to like 28 or something so that would be so that's
it's two pounds 1.8 ounces is what it is that's 33.76 ounces
and that is 957 grams here's the haven tent body with the poles and my whoopee
sling suspension on there and straps so we're looking at three pounds five ounces
that's 48.50 ounces that is 1 375 grams all right so the whole thing kind of hooks together
like this pad and haven so let me see if i can get a weight on these two together
because i don't do math well all right the two of them together were at like five
pounds 2.3 ounces
all right five pounds 2.2 ounces for a pad and hammock together that's 82.01 ounces that is um
2325 grams so you know not not the lightest thing i mean you know it's
doesn't feel heavy really so that's that and then we add
my 15 ounce tarp to it and that's going to be the system as opposed to bringing my eldorado hammock
and my under quilt and this of course this is going to be a lighter system right here
but i need to bring this out in the woods and sleep in it before i can give you any word on it
that better talks a lot
make me a might bit nervous