hi I'm Shana Duggan's and this is notes
on the scene I've been a spot woman for
18 years ish and then I've been
coordinating for probably about ten of
those years I've been a gymnast my whole
life so performing flippin anything with
your body that's just kind of been what
I've been doing since I was six and then
when I moved to LA I went into a gym
that had open gym and there were all
these stunt guys and a couple stunt
women and it was like this is an actual
career you guys do this for a living
this is the coolest job ever
Charlie's Angels will always be so dear
to my heart it was my first big movie it
was a lot of firsts for me I think my
favorite stunt I would say would
probably be the helicopter work other
than being in Hawaii and taking a
helicopter tour it was the first time I
had really worked with a helicopter and
luckily it was with Craig Hoskins as a
pilot who's amazing I'm 20 years old
and I am being told hey just hang from
the skid drop down from your knees catch
Lucy's character and your safety dog by
this and then I think another one I'm
really proud of would be it's not as
cool of a gag but it was a big stair
fall with Cameron and the bad girl and
it's because it's the first stair fall I
had ever done and they said the only
advice I can give you for a stair fall
is just go as aggressive and hard as you
can oh okay and they say so now we're
gonna build a platform they're gonna
jump off the platform hit the top and
then they're gonna fall together down
the stairs it was built and sure enough
the Bell Falls we dive through the doors
hit the thing and go down the stairs it
was the first I would say that wasn't a
fight or gymnastics it was the first
stunt somebody said be aggressive and go
for it
coordinating is a combination of the
physical and the mental you get to sit
down with a director and with the
creators and you say what's the vision
you're trying to create with this and
then you come back and you figure out
how to bring that fresh and to bring it
to life or you add to it and make
suggestions and collaborate with
everybody and find the best product
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glow is a really unique experience in
the creative process because from the
very beginning Liz and karlie of said we
really want our actresses to be able to
wrestle they hired one wrestler Kia
Stevens and she is a rock star in the
wrestling world she's an amazing actress
and then all of our other actresses are
actresses musicians comedians and they
are amazing in their own right at what
they do and so now they're coming in and
they're completely out of their world to
start with and we're asking them to look
like professionals in a month and when
someone struggles with something you
have 12 13 14 girls lifting her up and
then when someone gets something they've
been working on they're all so excited
for each other and it's really really
empowering it's beautiful to watch when
I started glow I didn't have a ton of
experience with wrestling so when I took
my first meeting I just said I think the
best way to help us and teach these
women as quickly as we can is to bring
somebody from the wrestling world and
we'll team together they'll know the
nuances of the wrestling world and
that's been Chavo Guerrero jr. frost and
Chico Chico Guapo and so then we
collaborate together and we'll talk
about stuff so between the two were
teaching stunts world and wrestling and
it made me respect and appreciate them
even so much more we have a lot a lot of
fun there's a lot of trial and error and
laughter in there to say the least when
we're playing around and trying this is
glow season 2 Liberty Bell is hi and she
is wrestling with Zoya and she ends up
breaking her ankle it was really
important to us to do very similar
choreography so you knew that it was the
same match that they had trained but
that you saw the difference in Liberty
Bell if you see the training sequence
you see her more together she does the
moves but she's working with her and in
this one you start to see everything is
a little bit crazy
and in the moves instead of it being
together working with Ali here they're
not really working together anymore
she's off on her own path so we wanted
all the moves to have a similar feel but
just enough on edge
so now she grabs her here which she's
supposed to do in the choreo but she's
very aggressive with her she starts to
kind of control her more than working
with her partner so normally wouldn't
you she brings her into this suplex she
has her in the position she's gonna have
a hand on her front hip and lift her and
she's gonna also help and drive it over
so it's the combination between the two
but if you'll see in this she doesn't
check in with her at all which wrestlers
do we just don't see it as soon as she
grabs her jerks around she throws her so
that's kind of another thing with the
character of switching it to where she's
just taking control here you can see
this hand on Betty is where she's
assisting and pushing this arm is also
around her neck so she's pushing her
over and Ally here is also taking some
of it in herself like she's doing a flip
to her back so she'll go whoop and land
on her back and she has to drop straight
down and land on her back this is where
the timing comes in if she pushes too
soon or her leg is late you have an off
kilter it doesn't go smooth and she's
the one at risk cuz her neck is the one
coming over and the job of Basheer over
here is he's trying to always be in the
mix without being in the way he'll step
over here and then he'll see her lift
and if he's here he's gonna get landed
on and it risks Ally's head and neck and
then he knows at a certain point okay
I've got to come back over here out of
the way and now usually the other tricky
part is you have camera in the ring with
them the camera is over here and it's on
a steady camera in the ring so you have
a camera operator who's moving around
and you have Bashir who's moving around
and now you have two actresses who are
performing and flipping and trying to be
aware of where everybody else is but you
can see how much this takes together and
no matter what she's still gonna land on
her back so no matter how padded this is
it doesn't feel good and it's not a soft
pad because you can't hide it we made
ours as nice as we can for them it's two
inches of Haydn's phone whenever
wrestler comes in and goes oh my god
this is the best wrestling ring we've
ever been in this is amazing but it's
still it's hard it's jarring on your
body you train it and rehearse it and
rehearse and rehearse
but at the same time it is two actresses
doing this which is pretty incredible so
now you can start to see her kind of
crazies coming out
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in this choreo she's supposed to throw
her leg but she's not supposed to just
start to take control so she's got her
in a lock here and now she is grabbing a
hold this is a this is a correct lock
where she actually has her knee joint
and she can take control and pivot her
it becomes a pivot point and she's gonna
pivot her underneath and Ali starts it
and gives a good push at the beginning
to help but again her head has to clear
underneath and get in between her so Ali
has to help and clear herself to get her
through Ali's coming underneath and you
see her head clearing now she's spotting
it she's got her hands ready to land and
then Betty is stepping over her but you
also you know don't want to step on her
fingers you don't want to kick her so
there's a lot going on between each
other's legs and head she's supposed to
put her eighth and goal in a lock and
twist it to appear that she's hurting
her but she doesn't check in to make
sure that they're okay she's trying to
check in on the bottom and Liberty Bell
is doing her own thing up on top and
goes too far
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bass can be better be an effect
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I think the building was 12 stories most
people are like what's below you there
was concrete below me there was nothing
there so I am hooked to the helicopter
so there's a line there which is you
know good and bad if anything happens to
the helicopter I'm not getting away from
it and getting clear but if I miss the
skid with just angle below it so we did
the first two but we put it about where
I thought I could catch it we caught it
I swung and it was good and then they
said we have that piece of the catch can
we put it out farther so we can really
see you stretch as far as possible so I
said do you need me to catch it and they
said if you can great if not it's okay
we have that so I put him out another
few feet farther and just douve as far
as I could and I just caught it with my
fingertips and then slipped under and
then dangled below the helicopter so he
had to then come down hover on the
ground while they get me released and
then he can land this is our finale
episode of season 2 and we have the
battle royale going and then our guys
come in because they want to say face
and they decide to wrestle them so we
have two professional wrestlers that
come in Chavo Guerrero jr. being one and
you'll see Chavo
and Betty they'll start to communicate
with each other because this in theory
has never been rehearsed this is on the
fly
so what it's meant to do is to show that
our actresses have escalated to the to
the level at this point to be able to
just jump in the ring and call moves to
each other and have moves called to them
and be able to be a teammate to them and
to be an equal to him and he is such a
good wrestler that she's gonna do her
part and he's gonna make her look
amazing
he says we'll do a 12 o'clock he puts
her up to the top her hand is right here
basing on him and then he'll do the same
so she'll go straight up if she doesn't
help her hundred pounds becomes you know
deadweight of lifting a hundred pounds
so even though he is that strong and he
is lifting her you can see right here
her hand is basing on him he's got her
which makes it really hard I mean the
wrestlers are used to it but normally
when we rehearse were in sweats are
wearing leggings and you can grab the
top of the pants and really help and
then we have to remind herself that were
always in leotards so there's not much
to grab he's also got his arm right here
facing so she has her shoulder resting
on his to take a lot of the weight so
she's got a lot of her weight here and a
lot of her weight here so he's pushing
her by this and by this
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so we wanted a version of the head
scissor but knowing that we have the
luxury to get to use Chavo and his
amazing skills we could enhance it a
little bit Betty now is the top portion
of the head scissor and we just added an
extra spin and let her kind of fly like
a bird like she just gets to own it and
be Liberty Bell and he now makes her
look incredibly good and now she's taken
control and will flip him as she comes
down whoop down here and he'll flip so
that power changes there from him being
in control to her and Betty getting to
just ham it up because Chavo will milk
it as long as she needs and this move
she did a version of this to Kia earlier
in the season so we've kind of wanted
this to be her signature move where she
goes Han salutes because she's our
Liberty Bell and you can see the
combination she had to commit blind run
in half turn and commit and wrap her
legs around something that she doesn't
see with complete trust that he's going
to grab her here she drops down pushes
back up into this and then if she'll
drove down and come into a pin move to
him I think the fun thing with Glo is
you're not doing a fight scene where
every move is like life and death with
this it is for fun you have glitter and
big hair and leotards and I mean look at
these socks and it's about the fun it is
about the show so every move is about
telling the story and making the show
bigger and more fun and more interesting
for the audience you'll see the floor
will bounce a little bit and everybody
always thinks oh it's like a trampoline
oh it's not it's metal and then wood
planks and then the foam on top so all
that is is the wood just giving a little
bit but it's definitely not like a
trampoline normally in the wrestling
world they actually put mics on it and
they love the sound because it makes it
sound bigger and more intense when they
hit so when you do a big flip to your
back and you hear it makes it feel
harder and we love that except that they
have so much dialogue in there that we
have to mask it
so that we can hear them speak
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so now you'll see when she gets up on
him she's gonna communicate with him hey
can you do a backflip she starts to talk
and she's hiding it meanwhile the whole
time she's performing there's still that
communication which is they do it in the
ring with wrestling you just don't see
it all whether it's through you know
taps whether it's through help whether
it's through talking
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and the timing on this was really really
really crucial because we had it in a
slow-mo camera so you had to get her
under there all the way otherwise it
looked like she was under before he
flipped so she's coming up underneath
him
and there goes Chavo with the flip and
lands and Chris normally has not seen it
until the day and these eyes are usually
very genuine and I think he in this
sweetest possible way is like these
ladies biggest fan he comes in he's so
impressed he supports them he chairs
them on it's really neat because he and
marc maron are really the only guys that
are always there so it's like 15 ladies
and Marc and Chris
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that's the same thing it's the
combination of she's lifting him but
he's also helping her and she's back to
the ladies with any fight scene and
wrestling being the same you were only
as good as your partner so I can throw
the best kick or the best punch and if
they don't sell a great reaction I don't
look very strong and vice versa on GI
Joe the first one I was in a mocap suit
cuz she's supposed to be invisible I
throw this kick to the stunt guy's head
and he sells this really great big
reaction when I stock the kick he did
this big front three-quarter the
reaction was amazing and then they said
we could see air it doesn't work timing
wise Shawn I need you to really kick him
okay well he's got headgear on he'll be
fine so the cameras coming down I kicked
him I pulled it and I just got him at
the tail into the kick
he went hoop he went out for a second
and then he just dropped and they come
down and they're like that camp was
amazing your reaction was terrible what
happened to the reaction and I was like
because he went out I knocked him out
cut 2 take 3 I said I will stop the kick
they will never know I'll watch the
elevator you can do the reaction because
no matter what when you're kicked hard
you can only takes a second for your
brain to register it so you're always a
little late so then he made me look
incredibly strong - same with the
wrestling she makes him look incredibly
strong I had worked with Quentin
Tarantino first on alias he actually
came into the guest spot I happened to
be on daredevil when we when they
started Kill Bill and Zoey Bell who's
amazing doubled uma a lot and then I
came in for the last fight sequence with
uma and David Carradine there on a patio
they both have swords they're sitting in
chairs and the timing of when the chairs
spin and the sword fight is you know
it's it's pretty cool
ah Iron Man 3 I doubled gwyneth paltrow
there's a really fun sequence where she
is there with Robert Downey jr. and
there in his house and the bad guys come
in with the planes and the Rockets and
they start to blow up the house we
tested it and rehearsed it and then on
the day we did a ratchet so at the same
time it's all crucial timing and then
effects is blowing everything we're both
on ratchets which are like error
pneumatic cylinders and we get ratcheted
back about 15 20 feet didn't hit the
wall they built this plate off of
Roberts double and myself and put the
actors in it the funny thing with women
is you're and you know tight back pants
and a white shirt and hide the harness
and then you have like six-inch
stilettos so I wasn't worried about
hitting the wall I was worried about
when you hit the grant the wall you're
going to the ground next so I actually
had to try to keep my feet up and hit my
body because they didn't want to catch
the heels of the shoes and break your
ankles because the heels are so tall so
we did that but the interesting they
really did with that shot that was
really cool is he calls the suit on her
so it's the first time somebody else is
in his suit it was one of the coolest
experiences to get to be the woman in
the Iron Man suit like I literally had
it on and it's so big and the top half
is probably I don't know 50 pounds and
the shoulders are like this and you're
like oh Trevor hey Bruce at who had
normally been in the suit was so sweet
and was like okay I rest my arms here on
the chair to take the weight off the
shoulders then he was giving me all the
little tips of how to last that long in
it they put me in the suit and it was
the first day I was in it and the helmet
was too big they're like just drop into
frame and be like two or three inches
off of Robert and so I go to drop in the
first time and where I can see like this
much the helmets too big it drops down
so the eye holes are down here now and I
was like oh I don't have my face don't
have in the face I can't see him I can't
see him I'm thinking I'm gonna be the
first person that drops in like this and
smashes Robert Downey jr. face and
breaks his nose and knocks him out
everybody's really good at what they do
but then you add in the costumes the set
the it's not a perfect circumstance so
like
Gymnastics you think oh yeah I can do a
backflip no problem okay now can you do
a backflip off of this table in
stilettos and I'm gonna have her step
underneath you but don't hit her because
she's like the 10 million dollar actress
and then I'm gonna release doves and
you're like oh yeah I can yeah I think
they just want to screw with you
sometimes just to see if you'll say yes
this scene is from season 3 they've been
doing the show night after night and
they are bored so they decide to play
each other they both have different
takes on playing each other which is fun
so they're kind of playing each other
and they're playing each other's
characters she has a very Mary Ann from
Gilligan's Island type of version of
Liberty Bell and then Zooey
Betty is definitely the sexier version
of it so now we try to give them keeping
their signature moves but now what you
have to remember is Betty's signature
move is something Betty is very good at
Ally's signature move is something Allie
is very good at and now we're swapping
them so everything is a skewed version
of what what they all know as their
signature moves now Marc Maron is in the
ring so you have this third party again
who has never been in the ring before
this so he's trying to figure out where
to be without being in the way it was
like a lot of mark stay back here don't
step in here she's gonna go this way
she's gonna go this way
and if you go there you'll get kicked
he's jumping in and out
so again she's selling to make her look
strong and in the first season we did an
homage to that we had the opposite where
Betty had her foot up on her face we
have what's called the sunset flip in
here so now Ali's going to wrap her legs
and she's gonna come down and she's
gonna tuck her head down here completely
trusting that she's gonna flip to her
back without Betty who sits back landing
on her face or chest so she's got to
clear her and land over her when she
lets go she's committed her weights
going forward so she's got a weight
weight weight weight and now go in and
then clear so she doesn't land on her so
you can see the timing between the two
of them is both actresses 100% complete
trust in each other these two have some
unexplainable wrestling chemistry if
Ally isn't sure with anybody else for
some reason when she gets in the ring
with Betty it is a trust factor that's
off the charts they both know each other
and how they move and they have this
chemistry with acting with with dialogue
and with wrestling it's incredible
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normally ZOA is the heel and Liberty
Bell is the baby face as Chavo would
explain it as the bad guy as the heel
you want to be booed if you are being
booed you are doing your job as the
babyface you want everyone to be rooting
for you
all of our baby face moves are pure and
genuine and they are strong but they are
legitimate your heel as your BAE as your
bad guy would come in and throw the
underhanded kick or when the ref isn't
looking do something that they shouldn't
do so now that they've switched normally
this hair grab is what Zoya would do and
whip her around by the hair because
that's more of a bad girl move Liberty
Bell is still doing it because she's
always done that but we're just gonna
soften it and figure out how to make it
not look so bad - and then Betty's gonna
just play her like a guitar
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last year with season 1 the first season
with the Emmys that glow was nominated
for stunts I was nominated with the
stunt coordinators that have been my
mentors my peers my friends people that
I've trusted with my life they've
trusted me with theirs so to get to
celebrate that honor with them was huge
but then to do it with a family like
glow to get to be honored for a show
that you just feel so appreciative and
thankful to get to work on and then to
add on to that
it's stunts but it's also actresses
these actresses that became as you saw
these wrestlers they're being honored
for their work I mean we see the product
and I think we're so used to and jaded
to just assume that it's all stunts and
in reality I know how hard they worked I
know how hard they trained how much they
trusted to get out of their comfort zone
and how much they pull it off so it's a
real honor to get to then be nominated
and then to win an Emmy on a show that's
so powerful the coordinator comes in
from the very beginning and sits with
the director and says what is your
vision for this movie what do we want to
see with the action what's the style and
sometimes they have a distinct vision
and sometimes they say you know what I
love this but let's play and then the
team comes together the fight team the
stunt team they all come together and
they choreograph and play and then the
director gets to I love that I love that
let's do this let's do that and it
becomes a collaboration it's an honor to
be trusted with the job it's an honor to
let you create and then it's an honor to
be rewarded with that the fact that
people enjoy it and enjoy the work and
enjoy the time in it