Welcome back everyone this will be my joker 2 video todd phillips just dropped a teaser for
the movie with a couple really big easter eggs revealing something about the plot so we'll break
it all down if you're brand new to the channel be sure to subscribe to get all the videos and i will
explain where this fits in the continuity because they just announced dc's black label and they also
said that todd phillips would be advising them on doing other types of movies like the joker
franchise movies which will be separate from what matt reeves is doing with the batman movies and
all of those spin-offs like a slightly different continuity but it'll all make sense don't worry
but recently you probably saw on your feeds todd phillips dropped a teaser for joker 2 with joaquin
phoenix like the movie is real it actually exists now and they'll get ready to shoot it really soon
there was a title reveal and the full script like it's basically good to go because we're
getting ready to film it the title is pronounced joker folie a deux in its french for joker shared
madness as in joker's shared psychotic episode it's a term in psychology used to describe when
multiple people share the same delusion the same psychotic episode in the context of the
movie it has multiple meanings it's about how the joaquin phoenix arthur joker character has
this sort of madness delusion about the world living in gotham city this delusion about being
thomas wayne's illegitimate son it also means that through his actions the crimes he pulls
off during the sequel on the scale that he does that he's going to cause the rest of the city
that we saw towards the end of the first movie to share in his madness metaphorically and literally
because we are talking about the joker here like in some batman stories the comics the animated
series the tv shows the movies all the different versions you see joker try to dose the city with
his joker serum the laughing serum in the context of arthur's joker character in the first movie it
was more of a metaphorical thing because the crowd was already in the middle of rioting because of
the current state of gotham city in this big class divide in what was going on with the mayoral race
and thomas wayne's run for mayor the way they play things during the joaquin phoenix joker
movies is more real world instead of going full comic book like the justice league snyder cut
and all the movies related to that line like the black adam movie that i just did a trailer for
the fun fact about the joker serum too is that it's actually derived from the scarecrow fear
toxin but we haven't had the scarecrow inside the joaquin phoenix joker universe yet and even though
it is possible that he could use some version of the joker serum during this joker sequel i don't
think they're going to play it that way i think they'll keep it in the realm of metaphor when he
talks about sharing his madness with everyone like through his actions through the media people will
watch it like the people who are riding it'll just get crazier and crazier and crazier and
he'll start to win them over through his actions and they will then begin to share in his madness
it's not like he's gonna go around dumping a bunch of fear toxin or joker toxin into the water supply
that's the really cool the really insidious thing about the first joker movie is that he
doesn't need any kind of joker talks and like that it's all about the role of the media and
all this like in the case of the first movie it was his broadcast at the end that helped push
his exploits to legendary status but at the time he was already building on an existing
system of riots that all the people in gotham had been upset about the current administration
the growing problems in the city the whole inequality between the common people who were
rioting in the ultra-rich people represented by thomas wayne bruce wayne's family he was in the
middle of running for mayor and there were these escalating series of riots throughout
the movie as things got crazier and crazy and crazier public outcries during his appearances
eventually before he went full joker at the end of the movie he called the crowd a bunch of clowns
so already things were going really crazy in the city and what was happening with the joker just
kind of tipped that over the edge the whole thing with him secretly being thomas wayne's son i think
was actually a bit of a misdirect but the way the movie plays it they want to be kind of ambiguous
about it because you're meant to be viewing everything in the film from arthur's perspective
so as he descends into madness you're meant to see things get crazier and weirder and weirder
like they wanted you to feel as if there might have been a possibility that he was thomas wayne's
son and they never confirmed that it wasn't true even though they implied that it was all just this
big delusion in reality i think that his mother had suffered from mental delusions like he does
in the movie like she had had mental episodes when she was younger and she just fell in love
with thomas wayne when her family was working at his mansion and started to get creepy at his house
and then they just imply that his family kind of pushed her family out the door like okay you go
off on your own no more working for us and she just descended into a form of madness and just
came up with this delusion that she had been in a relationship with thomas wayne when that really
wasn't the case so he's not really thomas wayne's son but during the movie you notice
even after thomas wayne yells at him and they have that episode together that big encounter he calls
him a crazy person arthur does not stop believing that it's true he's still obsessed with the waynes
so the idea is that he had played a party clown and thomas wayne had called the people like him
like the lower class people a bunch of clowns acting crazy he started to feel like his life was
a joke eventually he just kind of owns all that by wearing the name as his own mantle calling himself
the joker matt reeves actually had his version of the barry kyokin joker in the batman movie kind of
say something similar like it's not so bad being a clown let me tell you there are worse things to be
hey hey don't be sad the big difference during the batman movie though is the ages of the batman
and the joker and the joker is in prison in arkham asylum because batman put him there
they released a deleted scene that was meant to be on the one year anniversary of him putting
him in prison so the barry kyogen joker was joking about that with him like isn't it our anniversary
so if it wasn't clear now obviously matt reeves has confirmed that the joker in his universe is
not going to be the joaquin phoenix versus the joker and even though they are doing all this
crazy multiverse stuff with the flash movie the joaquin phoenix joker movie will still be set in
an alternate universe in joaquin phoenix said he would totally come back as long as the story was
right the team was right and it sounds like they worked all those things out i can't stop thinking
about it i talked to tom a lot about what else we might be able to do um in general just working
together but also specifically is there something else with joker that that might be interesting
you know i think me and todd would still be shooting now if we could right because it seemed
endless um the the possibilities of where we could go with the character and if they didn't
start filming till 2023 that means a 2024 release date which would be a good long while between
movies it's still going to be rated r it's still going to be part of dc's black label which is
what they're using for their darker more hardcore films especially ones that are set in alternate
universes that aren't necessarily connected to all the big dceu stuff most of the plot details are
being kept in an underground bunker as you would expect but based on what both phillips and phoenix
had said previously the movie isn't going to have like a massive time jump the original movie took
place during 1981 joaquin phoenix is in his 50s in present day in real world but he was playing a 30
40 something joker and i do think that he actually did kill this woman the psychiatrist but when
you see him walking down the hallway leaving the trail of bloody footprints and the music swells up
that part is all happening in his head like he's in the process of escaping from arkham asylum
but the way the prison break plays out in this scene it's meant to be his fantasy version of
things if we were to see what's actually happening here in reality you'd see him running down the
hallway covered in blood crashing through random people orderlies looking for the exit stabbing
people left and right it would be way more quick and dirty like some of the other killings that he
did during the film so any references to batman or any of the other pre-existing dc characters in the
joker sequel is just meant to be a coincidence or in the case of this version of batman just a
totally new different version of batman the joker sequel is mostly just meant to move forward a
little in the timeline to the next logical event in gotham so bruce wayne would still be a child
living with alfred he'd be a little bit older but still be a child and there wouldn't be a bunch of
batman stuff happening yet the other really big change that you probably just heard about that i
mentioned earlier was todd phillips separately being asked by the new powers that be at dc at
warner brothers to come in and advise on doing more films kind of like the joker in the same
vein like talking about more dc black label types of movies that means more mid-budget movies like
movies that are closer to like 90 100 million dollars about villain characters different from
what you would think of your traditional big superhero type of dc film like a batman movie
matt reeves has talked about doing lots of spin-offs for his characters like there's
the arkham asylum tv show there's the other batman based tv shows on the robert pattinson version of
batman that's not meant to be dc black label stuff all the stuff that todd phillips would be doing
or helping advisor producing at warner brothers if other directors come on to do them is meant
to be a different line of continuity one of the exceptions now would be like doing a riddler film
like they just did the batman movie with robert pattinson the riddler was the main villain even
though it sounds like he's only inspired to take the name the riddler by the end of the film like
he hasn't fully become comic book riddler yet but he's thinking about it in the cell there with the
joker so todd phillips would probably swerve on doing a black label riddler film but there's
many many other villains in the dc toy box that they could do personally i actually think that's
been one of dc's strengths they just announced that marvel is finally doing a thunderbolts
movie and they said that they pitched it kind of like the marvel version of a suicide squad film
one of dc's big advantages over marvel the past couple years has been their willingness to do
r-rated villain-based films don't be surprised that they also take the same approach with the tv
stuff on hbo remember though dc black label stuff intended to be different continuity but i think
we'll just take that on a one-at-a-time basis like when a new show or new movie comes along
i'll talk about where it fits in the continuity but everyone click here for my brand new black
adam trailer video and easter eggs and click here for my brand new marvel thunderbolts announcement
video thank you so much for watching everyone stay safe and i'll see you guys in the next one!