Hello! one second, gotta get my map out
i need a Tube map, and i need a London Rail and Services and Tube map
i'm in Zone 4, in north london, i'm at Oakleigh Park
i've bounced back and fowards this morning
around London and then around New Barnet, Zone 5
and Oakleigh park a couple of times
to make sure that i've hit the Zone 5 cap
'cause i'm heading for ...
Brookmans Park, which at the moment
is ... London's only station
where you can't use Oyster
but you CAN use Contactless
so my train is coming in the distance
they're all the brand new Class 717's
shiny new, along this line now
i actually started my day, in Central London
at ... Moorgate
and i tapped in there
and i've done a lot of tapping in and out up and down the line
on a contactless card ... on purpose
to very specifically, cap at Zone 5
i've ALSO just now here
at Oakleigh parked, tapped in with an Oyster
on purpose
because when i get to Brookmans Park
i'm gonna see what happens with both
let's get on the train and i'll explain more
*PA* This station is Oakleigh Park *PA*
Ok! So ...
this video, pertains to a station
where you can use Contactless but not Oyster in London and more are coming
and it also pertains to Cross Eliz Purp trains
stick around, towards the end of the video for that
in the meantime ...
i've grabbed myself the latest copy of this
the London Rail and Tube Services map
which is dated ...
May 2019, but the one online (link in the description) is more up to date
because that has a special symbol next to Brooksmans Park station
but before we get into that
i need to explains how many zones there are on Oyster, in London
you might be forgiven for thinking that there's six Zones one to six
you might even actually know that there are nine zones
zones one to nine, is a common thing. but actually!
there's fifteen. Here's how.
All London Underground stations fall within Zones one to nine
but there are stations that have been added to system since
beyond London, and outside of these zones
Watford Junction, is in Zone 10
and there fares for that are also used for Purfleet, Grays, Chafford Hundred, and Ockendon
then there's Zone 11
initially used for the stations between Broxbourne and Hertford East
but recently Hertford North and Bayford were also added to this zone
Cuffley, was put into Zone 9 at the same time
then at the end of August 2019, Radlett on Thameslink was added to Zone 11
and Potters Bar - on the line i'm on today was also added to Zone 11
Zone 12, is just Shenfield by itself
all the way out east, on TfL Rail
Zones 13 and 14 are there to bring Oyster to Gatwick Airport
Gatwick is in Zone 14 by itself
and then the stations between Merstham and Horley are in Zone 13
that left Zone 15 free
which has been reserved for Crossrail's Elizabeth Line
but ... TfL have now said, that that's not happening
So what's happened is that stations around the edge of London that don't quite
fit into the Zone 6 or Zone 9 areas that want to be part of the Oyster Contactless scheme
because it's easier to just, tap and go
they've got to the point now where they've run out as you've seen
in that diagram just there there are no more Oyster zones
there are only 4 bits, they can only have 15
in the meantime though, what's happened is that
Brookmans Park, if you look at this map, online
doesn't actually show it in this paper version
the online version - i'll throw it up on screen now
had got a little Contactless symbol next to it
what this means is that you can use Brookmans Park for
contactless, i.e. Bank Cards to tap in and out on an Oyster style pad
but NOT an actual Oyster Card
so does this means you could end up with the example where people might think
you see the Oyster Pad, you can tap in and out with an oyster card
that is why today, i have specifically
capped at Zone 5
on a contactless card, and then i'm going to travel to Brookmans Park
but when i get there i've also tapped in just now at Oakleigh Park
on an Oyster Card, and i want to see what error message it gives me
when i try, and tap out, at Brookmans Park
Point to note! on the in-carriage map
up here, on the new 717's
the oyster and contactless yellow shaded zone
only goes as far as Hadleigh wood
which is wrong, because you can already use Oyster, to Potters Bar
and now you can use Contactless
and Contactless only to Brookmans Park, however on the platforms ...
of some of the Great Northern stations i've seen this morning it says "Our network"
they HAVE added Brookmans Park
in a slightly different ... colour
of shading, to indicate that it's a contactless only station not Oyster... are you confused yet?
*PA* We will shortly be arriving at Brookmans Park *PA*
I'm like .. the only person to have got off *laughs*
i have actually been here once before
many years ago, to go Geocaching
err, and i bought a paper ticket
but it's on the strange stretch of line where obviously you're on the East Coast mainline
and you've got fast LNER trains whizzing through the middle, and then
Great Northern, run their stoppers up the outside
HELLO Brookmans Park!
so i can see already as i approach there's no barriers, just Oyster validators
i'm interested in knowing
are the validators a different colour?
have they got any publicity or sticker on them?
or are there any posters saying this is Contactless only but not Oyster
let's find out!
alright! this is vaguely exciting
the Oyster validators, tap to travel
it's a standard yellow pad but it's surrounded by Orange, i've not seen that before, so it's like an orange
wrapped, validator
Contactless and smartcard users must touch in and out
Oyster cards are not valid at this station
there's an Oyster card with a line through it
but there's a very big sticker showing, including the key smartcard
and bank cards and then contactless cards
ARE, allowed here
also, there's a poster down there
saying that Freedome passes, so if you got, a London over 60 freedom pass
not valid at this station
so it's weird ... seeing an oyster pad
but knowing an Oyster card isn't valid, so i'm gonna touch out
with my contactless
i wanna see how much, i'm up to boundary zone five, i was capped at zone five
so i'll see how much a fare is from Zone 5 to here
and then i'll touch out with the Oyster a
and see what error message it gives me!
So the bright sun it with us, this is me tapping out
i've got a contactless card in here, i'm gonna tap out with that
card accepted! i will check on the Oyster app in a minute
what my balance is, but what i really want to do ... is
i touched in at Oakleigh Park with this Oyster card
so i want to touch out now
i'm getting a 'seek assistance', 75 error
there's an app! on the App store
which me and my friend Matt wrote
called 'oyster errors' i will put a link in the description
you scroll to the number ...
and it tells you what all the oyster errors mean
error 75 is ... Oyster Card not supported!
which is ... what you would expect
there's a poster here
saying you can use contactless, doesn't say you CAN'T use oyster
and does also correctly mention the fact that it will be extended further north
up to Hatfield and Welwyn Garden City later this year
over here, on the ticket office window
it mention this started back on the 29th August, by the way
errr, use contactless
it says more return fares will be the same, as paper tickets
which i kinda of, is this worth going into now?
it's worth checking ... if you're at like
Epsom, or Gatwick ...
and Hertford East, all those places which are, which take Oyster
and Contactless, outside of Zone 9, it's worth checking
i'm not gonna say for definite it's always cheaper but especially at the weekend
i would check to see, if a paper ticket is cheaper than Oyster
and Contactles, in all cases. check!
or try it out, buy a paper ticket one day tap in another day and see which is cheaper
Ok!
you have to wait a few minutes on the Oyster App, for like
the data to trickle down, so as i wait for my train back south
just get centered - there we go - always centre yourself!
something disappointing to report
i'll do a cutaway, screenshot, it's reported
that i've capped at £12, which is the
Zone F --- being texted
that's my friend Mike! who i'll mention in a minute that i'm chatting with about this
because he's pointed out to me that I'd capped at twelve
pounds, which is the Zone 5 cap, so surely?
going to Brookmans Park
from New Barnet, should have only charged me the New Barnet to Zone 5 to Brookmans Park extension
instead, it's charged me, the full £3.20
from Oakleigh Park to Brookmans Park, so that's more
than I would exect, so ... hi!
if you're watching, and you're the person that sets the fares
what .. why has it charged me £3.20?
oh! by the way, if you're the person that makes THIS on the map
can you see how, and this is what you see by the way
when you download the latest map
from the website, 'cause it's not in paper form yet
can you see how the Contactless symbol
to me, it's slightly in the wrong place
it needs to move, hang on if we all stare at it very hard
there we go! it just needs to move like that
to be aligned, perfectly
if you could fix that as well that would be great!
we'll get back on the train, and on the way back into London
my camera will fall over!
and we'll discuss, why ...
this is relevevant - it's all wonky now! - to the tube map
and ... Crossrail
*PA* This Stations is Brookmans Park *PA*
Ok, coming back down the iine, do need to discuss
why this is pertinent to the tube map and that's because TfL
put out a press release last week I will link to it below
saying that, for the first time ever on the tube map
i think this is ... a first since oyster was introduced in 2003
there are going to be Contactless only and non-Oyster stations marked on the tube map
because in December of this year, 2019
TfL Rail ... Purpletrains SHOULD (i mean, why wouldn't you put it on the Tube map, TfL)
because they're taking over the services from GWR and can get 9-car
Cross Eliz Purp trains, from Paddington
all the way out to Reading ... Reading
is going to be on the tube map, pocket map (unless it isn't) we'll get to that in a second
but they've announced in their press release
they we thought that tehy were saving Zone 15 in those 15 zones
4-bit restricted fifteen zones
for use to Reading, but that's not the case instead they've said
that stations past West Drayton, heading west
you're only, like Brookmans Park you'll only be able to use Contactless
and not Oyster!
i think that's a big thing, i think that's a first thing
because it'll mean for the first time in its history, since 2003
there'll be stations on the Tube map
where you CAN'T use Oyster
how will they show that ... ... will they, not show it at all?
will be a special zone, like the tram fare zones
will it have little black or red daggers that refer to they key
will there be signs, up at stations?
i've got a photo - i already saw a sign at Ealing Broadway station last week
where it says that already, because it's already true
but the point is, it's gonna be on the Tube Map, Tfl Rail
what will becomme CrossElizPurp trains, Crossrail
will be on the Tube map, in future years to come
but yet you can't. use. Oyster. to them. that's a big thing
we remain to see, what happens
'cause we don't know, so the December 2019 tube map
will be quite a thing ... unless!
unless of course, this is the year when they ditch the Tube Map
and they have a larger sized map that shows what is Oysterable
and what is Contactless ... able? only
interesting times to come discuss all this ...
... in the comment below see ya!