Heisel was taking me to see the bombed out ruins
of one of Escobar's many holiday homes on the outskirts of Medellin.
Oh, my God.
I didn't expect it to be so emotive.
You know, like... I don't know, it just looks...
It's creepy. Like, eerie.
It's an uneasy feeling, seeing that, isn't it?
Originally built for Escobar's wife,
La Manuela was bombed and destroyed by an anti-Escobar group
called Los Pepes in 1993.
Yolanda worked here as a housekeeper at the time,
and her family were given the property after his downfall.
Do you feel... You know, we hear a lot of negatives about Pablo.
Do you feel that there are
any positive effects that he had on Colombia?
SPEAKS SPANISH
Were any of your family and friends affected by everything
that went on around Pablo Escobar
and the sort of general fear in the country?
And do you feel that Colombia now has left this part of its history
behind and is completely onto a positive path now?
I mean, this is proper mad, cos, like...
You sort of... I mean, this would have been his main bedroom.
It's a weird feeling
because this is paid for through drug money, essentially.
You can't help, as you're walking around,
the fact that you're walking around bombed ruins,
that brings into sort of sharp focus the fact that this was funded...
..through some pretty horrible stuff.
But...
..on the flip-side of the coin,
I mean, it is an amazing house.
Like, there's a pool over there.
I mean, it's like a supervillain's pad.
You can't get away from that, and that makes you feel...
I don't know, does it make you feel guilty? A little bit, I guess.
You know, you're sort of... I'm glamorising it in my head,
never mind it being glamorised for me.
I'm glamorising it in my head.
Walking around, though, you cannot avoid thinking about it,
thinking about the reality of it.
La Manuela is open to the public
and tourists are able to wander the ruins,
hear about Pablo's legacy and afterwards...
..play paintball in the grounds.
You son of a bitch.
Oh, shit!
Do you think...
..doing paintball warfare on Pablo's holiday home
might be accused of glamorising violence a bit?
Jesus! Shit!
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go!
So do you think this sort of thing,
does this make you feel like narco-tourism is a positive thing?
Would you say that you're in favour of all narco-tourism, then,
because it brings positive things to the country?
BLEEP
Shit!
Oh. How's this prick getting me?
Sorry, yes, I'm listening to you, carry on.
Ah, you
HEISEL LAUGHS
ROMESH SCREAMS
Come on, you sons of bitches!