today we're looking at a new junction box from Wago
okay i'm sure the boffins over there in germany we're going to probably call it waygo throughout
the presentation i've come up with a snappy new name for this uh junction box a bit of a challenge
there gary because obviously Wagobox is gone uh yes was clearly a meeting went on and they came
up with a snappy title two zero seven four three zero one oh as i like to call it the 207 4301 box
from Wago okay so it's a new uh new juncture box clearly aimed at the market for central underfloor
heating things like that we've previously locked a previous incarnation of this product the L32
which you know great idea but didn't quite hit the mark check out that video but let's have a
look at some of the features on this one gary and see what's being improved okay so first of all
you can see no screws on the front and we know uh Wago are renowned for being screwless terminals so
of course the box itself now has no screws on the front unlike its predecessor it's a little easier
to do it when it's actually physically screwed to the wall but i'll just show you take your
screwdriver just push it in here a little click in again and then we can just lever that up so if i
just do that with the hand cam you won't just take that for me gordon so we can have a little look on
hand cam so i've got it in that because i push down and then hopefully you just lever the two
apart so there's one that side and then that's all yeah i heard that i heard that click there
very clearly you've been rehearsing that i've had a few attempts yes thank you so uh lid out the way
and you can see inside it what are you noticing straight away Gordon that is actually missing
yeah there's no way go terminal blocks no it's down to you to install and it only takes the
two ones the two ones yourself you have to install those okay i'll give you the two-way
one as well okay thank you yeah you've got the set so you can click them in in in what
positions anywhere you like so we've got a rail on the top the sides and one in the centre
here that all will accept these uh connectors into place okay so we can push those into here
and then they lock into place okay you can move it along if you've got it in the wrong place as well
and in order to release it you just press down here with a screwdriver
okay and if you've gone across two of them just press in both sections and you'd be able to lift
that back out again gordon very nice it is and what else what else did you get in the bag yeah
I've got some handy cord grips in its predecessor the L32 there wasn't enough positions that you
could bring flexes in yes that was that was one of the things we ran out of two things it was
yeah entries cable entry points and yeah terminal space as well so yeah particularly on the on the
cpc conductors yeah so we've got six positions here but that doesn't mean gordon that you can
only bring six flexes in because you can actually piggyback them so if i insert one of these
in like so just push it into place you then just simply put the flex in and then you clip that down
on top and it works a bit like a tie wrap these zip down into position but what you can do then
is put another one on so in a minute i'll expect a demonstration from you on that so pop those into
position the actual uh box itself is ip2x and can only withstand an ampere rating of 18 amps now ah
yeah okay we don't want to go up to the discussion about aggregate current rating
that's another video yeah so you can't you can't yeah 18 amps is the maximum limit for all
circuits flowing through that box it is and people can become confused because the actual
connectors themselves when you look at them they're rated at 32 amps depending on where you
are but we're 32 amps here in europe and that doesn't mean the box is rated at 32 amps it's
rated at 18. so ideally suited for central heating systems like the one we've got set up behind us
and maybe a light and circuit connections so you wouldn't be using it to extend uh possibly the
conductor's coming into a consumer unit to add to move to another uh location absolutely not it's
not designed to extend cables when you're moving consumers at all so with that in mind okay we've
got the 60 positions now to make our connections considerably more than we had on the original one
so it means that we can fully populate for the central heating system that we're looking at in
this video yeah it's also rated at um 450 volts as well so let's have a let's have a look at
that cable clamp gary okay you're going to have a little go to this one i'll have a go at that yeah
let's bring this camera in so we've got the the original upstands are in okay i'll pop those
in so you're going to put one of these in yeah that'd be right that doesn't look like a cable
tie yeah it is again it sounds like one push down there wow again not coming out no screws
lovely but the good thing is yeah you can stack another cable on top i mean if i look at the
the box itself you can see it's got knockouts to allow a single or a double cable entry as
well okay so you can double stack them so you're gonna double step one for me just bring in another
one oh completely prepared earlier so pop that on again love that now the next thing you think
the hell do you want to release those um just on the side there you'll see there's a tiny little
indent there to put a screwdriver in yeah you sort of pry it apart and then that comes out so
a ratchet release mechanism a bit like you'd have on a on a on a cable type not most of them because
not reusable okay so we've got two here two two two so that gives us our 12 doesn't we have six
or we can double stack them to make 12 flexible cables coming in and you also get uh this labeling
strip that's got cut points on the back okay so that slots into the slot here to label up
obviously the configuration everything so one slight thing i found on this uh we use a Brother
label printer with a 12 millimeter ribbon okay i'd say that's about 11 millimeters so this yeah
yeah yeah nearly there one one slight thing i guess yeah that that's a slight downside the
other thing i found with the l32 is i couldn't fit it on to say if i flushed in a box into the wall
okay so we've got a socket box here if i flush that in the likely is i would like to fit
well you would do that wouldn't you because if you don't fit that you know what's the plaster
going to do yeah okay he's going to fill it up anyway but at least you've got a fighting
chance if you first fix the pack box and if we take this one so again if you want to want
to take it and have a look for us yeah we've got the ability now just to drop it on top of
a twin socket there they are so yeah on this side yeah clearly see that you can actually fit those
on there and you've got three points there also that can come in through the back of that box
as well yeah and there's this additional space for the terminals as well yeah that's good so
i think we can clearly see then that if i if i cut away to this shot that actually now the original
one that we set up check out that video it's a really good one but now we've changed nothing
else only changed the box haven't we we've changed over to this new remember yeah a little number
there gordon what is that snappy little number the uh 274 4301 look at our american viewers
and there we know they love where go terminal over there yeah so we can we can see now loads
more space which is what we wanted yeah okay we've got 60 terminals which is fantastic and
we've got the ability to bring 12 chord grips in as well as entrance from the back so i think now
we've made it bigger which it needed to be but it solved all the problems let's have a look at what
it looks like on our rig because we've we've wired one up already okay so let's have a come over and
have a look well that looks better already so you can see on this one we've arranged the neutral
uh terminals so you need lots of neutrals in a central heating system
there's the incoming line conductors yeah masses of uh CPC conductors down that side with double
stacked cable entries oh yeah yeah and this this configuration so it's good that it doesn't come
fully loaded because obviously central heating systems are changing uh also this product is
obviously aimed at multi-zone valves on underfloor central heating systems but you know with these
you know heating's changing all the time the fact you can configure it to the exact needs yeah i
think it's fantastic and yeah i've got some space so you haven't used them here and you haven't used
the ones in the back either so there's plenty more opportunities to make connections in there
i like that so i think almost Wago created a bit of their own problem they've tried the L32
and it wasn't big enough was it that wasn't close yeah close but not quite there was it
yeah and obviously some people are going to say oh yeah there's not much room often you know the
plumber never leaves you much room you're right um so you want to get in there first
and then make sure you've got the room to fit them okay you've got the l32 if you want to want to
fight the wires in but yeah this great solution yeah it is a great solution and we think now
this product unlike is probably predecessor this product will make electrician's life easier with
those 60 levered connections that we can put our conductors in making it nice and screwless as well
and we think this is a really good product from wago just remind me of the code again
wholesaler it's the 207 4301 just yeah slips off the tongue just like that doesn't it so as always
here at efixx we're interested in your comments have you fitted the
207 4301 box before and if you have how'd you get on with it was it an improvement
on what you'd be doing before you used this box are you thinking about using it in the
future please leave those comments below and we'll try and get back to as many as we can
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