Ladies and gentlemen
good evening
and welcome to Vezzoli TV late night with Ivan Olita
Today, I'm really happy to be here because not only are we at Plastic Milano
one of the most amazing clubs in the whole world
but we also do have as a guest
one of the most prominent artists
living on this planet
But before that before introducing him to you
I want us first to put our hands together
for our incredible helper Iena
Iena, how are you today?
Are you excited to have with us, our guest?
Yes, I am too
So, allow me to introduce you to Mr Francesco Vezzoli
Thank you for being with us today, Mr Vezzoli
How are you doing?
Busy
Right, as usual I guess
Busy week you know
But what do you do usually, to be busy?
Because no one really understands
your life seems so glamorous, and vain
No, my life isn't glamorous at all
I spend most of my time in bed watching trashy television
and doing phone calls
and I think my greatest achievement would be to spend even more time in bed
or doing nothing or watching television
Really, powerful people do nothing
They just do phone calls?
They just do phone calls
and threaten people and that's it
I want to start, so we have to call Iena
and she's going to give us the first question, are you ready?
I'm ready
Please begin
- Thank you Iena - Here you are
You just said you spend a lot of time in bed
How do you entertain yourself when you're in bed?
With television, laptop, or human beings
Which kind of human beings do you prefer usually?
I'm not very selective tall, short, blonde,
dark... dark, I prefer dark
Dark human beings?
Dark human beings, yes
I guess you were talking about their physical appearance
No, about their souls
- Oh, yeah? - Yes
Oh, so that means you have a dark sexuality
No, they have a dark sexuality
And you just dig a little bit into their sexuality
to get a little bit of this darkness?
I'm their washing machine they use me to clean them up
And how are you able to clean negative energies then?
I have a lot of positive energy
So do you think that your work somehow
also cleans up the energy from the Hollywood system
that you often relate to?
You can clean up other people's negative energy
only if you spend a lot of time in places where there is positive energy
That's why I come to Plastic
That's a good thing and that's why your bed
is also a place with positive energy I guess
Yes, I have a very big bed
it's actually two queen size beds merged together
which makes it a double queen size bed
which kind of fits me and is an unreal size
but it can fit 3 or 4 people, you know
and I'm not into orgies I'm just into community
But do you think they're attracted by your public persona
or do they just come in your bed for other reasons?
No, I think this is an act of utmost vanity
I hope they don't know anything about my public persona
So you just hope that they're there--
I'm so stupid I hope they are just attracted by me
which of course is the highest act of vanity
because anyone in the world assumes he's attractive
not only for the way he looks but for what he does or whatever else
In my case anonymity is a tool of the game
But this is pretty interesting because in your work, you do use a lot celebrities
Yes
and people from the Hollywood industry
So one person maybe would think that you do that in order to create a persona
that then would resonate with other people
that then would like this persona that you created
But it seems that in your private life you don't really go for that
No, I'm the opposite of a starfucker
technically speaking
Okay
I like to fuck with people who are not stars
Very normal people
This is your taste
The more normal the more exciting
And stars just for your performative work?
Absolutely, I don't want to be friends with my actors
I don't want to sleep with them
It's too dangerous just too complicated
it's too narcissistic
and it's a lack of respect
I want my stars just for the public identity
I'm like an anthropologist I'm like a professor
I'm not even interested in them for who they are, I'm interested in them
for the reaction they create among other people
Well, Francesco, we're going to end this responsibility
but it was such a pleasure to have you here with us
Thank you very much
and I hope to see you soon
And we're going to see you tomorrow
here at Vezzoli TV late night with Ivan Olita
Thank you