Hmmmmmmmm You Season 4 Part 2 is now out and after our last video you decided to
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Pffff so you just finihsed You Season 4 part 2 and man do we have a lot to talk
about. Throughout this video we're gonna be recapping the
new netflix show and also talking about the ending and where it could be going.
Full spoilers ahead so if you haven't checked it out then check out now. With that out the way,
huge thank you for clicking this, now let's get into You Season 4.
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Ok so after all the breadcrumbs were laid in part 1, part 2 has us finally meeting
Kate's father Tom Lockwood. Played by Greg Kinnear he's a a devious,
evil man who's as obsessed with Kate is Joe is. It's a fatherly obsession
but we learn that he's secretly controlled every aspect of her life. Every job she got,
every charitable event that went through, it was all him controlling things from the shadows.
We discover that he's learned who Joe is early on and that he wants to use him and his certain set
of skills to take out Rhys Montrose. Joe ends up doing this which is when we get our first major
twist. Turns out that Joe actually imagined the killer version of Rhys who represents his
darker and more evil side. Even though he's doing horrendous things, audiences have still always
grown to like Joe because we see things from his point of view. He has very much presented this
killer with a heart of gold to us whereas Rhys represents what he's really like. This plays
into the ending with him very much embracing this side after Kate enables him to do what he wants.
Now a big question that you might have in this reveal is why did Tom actually
want Rhys dead if he wasn't the eat the rich killer. Well it just boils
down to him going after rich people. He already used the press to ruin his
reputation and sending Joe after him was very much the literal nail in the coffin.
Now, I think that the twist is very much gonna make or break the show for
a lot of people and I do roll my eyes a lot when twists like this are revealed.
It was shocking back in 1999 when it was used as part of fight club but
since then we've had countless shows and films using this as a narrative device.
I saw this theory in the wake of part 1 and just thought it was pretty stupid but ey,
you got it right, so who looks stupid now?
Me...again.
Anyway as I saw it slotting into place I thought, no way are they doing this
stupid twist and I was ready to turn it off when the second Rhys stepped out.
However, I kept watching and I think that in all fairness they do do a lot with the
reveal. It allows us to see Joe for who he really is and to me the good
guy is actually the fascade. I think it shows how good that Penn Badgley is
when he can be an evil murderous stalker that still has people rooting for him.
Now the reason he created this idea of Rhys is because he became obsessed with him after moving
to England. Rhys very much represents everything Joe wants to be and in many ways his arc mirrors
the tales that the real Rhys tells us about himself. He came from nothing and by the end
of the season he's plucked out of it by a rich figurehead much like how Rhys was. He too grew
up poor but then learned that he was a son of a duke which allowed him to go into the upper class.
That's very much what happens with Joe at the end
of the season which we'll talk more about later on.
Now it's also important to bear in mind that Lockwood fits this
mould too. He also came up from nothing and has used murder to get his own way.
Joe believes that he's like Rhys when in reality he's like Tom and if his son Henry
comes back into the show then he may end up treating him like how Tom treated Kate.
Now Joe's obsession with Rhys is very much the extreme of a parasocial relationship. Incase
you don't know this typically revolves around someone who believes that they
have a friendship with a celebrity or figure head. We see this demonstrated in Pheobe's
stalker with her believing that she and Pheebs are actually friends.
I've actually had something similar happen but not with you mate cos me
and you are actually really good mates cos of that time you hit the thumbs up button.
There's some nice moments that kind of tie back to things from earlier in the season and there's
a video Joe watches in which Tom talks about the rich. This is word for word what Rhyys
said to Joe in the club back in episode 1 and it shows how he projected him into his real life.
Anyway the reveal with Rhys allows us to see a lot of things from a new angle such
as what really happened with Marianne. We learn that he didn't let her go and that
he in fact kidnapped her and locked her in a cage classic Joe style. Episode 7 actually
has a really good bit of foreshadowing towards this when we see Kate say this.
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We later find out that this is where Marianne is kept and Joe was subconsciously going on
this walk with her to check it out even if he didn't know why.
He's desperate to find out where she is so that he can free her but Rhys won't reveal the truth
to him. Now whilst this is going on, Nadia starts to look into her unassuming lecturer.
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Average Joe.....oh I get it. So yeah she suspects something is off
with him and after finding a key she discover Marianne trapped in a cage.
They start to put together a plan whilst Joe fights his darker side,
tries to keep things going with Kate and also deal with her father.
It was good to see the cage back as it's become a staple of You and whereas in the
past people have fallen victim to it I loved watching Marianne and Nadias
plan working out. They realise that if the entire thing is exposed that Joe will just go
into hiding again and we've of course seen this happen over and over again throughout the show.
Now Nadia goes to Marianne once more and she switches the number in her
phone so that it make it seem like her daughter is being taken away from her.
Whilst all this is going on we have lady Pheobes wedding goes down but she has a psychotic break
after realizing exactly what things will turn into. Her husband is killed by Tom who also
tries to get his daughter to take over the throne. It's revealed that Kate was actually beyond the
event that gave all those kids cancer and she's purposely made the choice to step away from this.
After Marianne collapses Joe puts himself on trial with his victims
and we get cameos from Beck and Love. Beck is an important victim to focus on
as Joe of course killed her in New York which is where he ends up returning to.
Love also gives him a gun and says that someone needs to die in order
for this to end for good which is a path that he almost takes.
This is foreshadowed at the start of episode 10 and it's possible that it's
also giving us clues about where things will end up going with Joe.
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He wakes up the next day and goes to Marianne to find her
apparently dead which puts into place the next part of her and Nadias plan.
He dumps her body and whilst all this is going on Kate finds out the truth about
her life. She tells him about all the files her dad kept on her and Joe knows
that he has to get rid of her. Joe ends up killing Tom and pinning it on his bodyguard.
He then goes to jump over a bridge which seemingly kills the Rhys side
of him. Again very similar to Fight Club and how Tyler Durden was killed.
spoiler alert
Rhys tells him he loves him and Joe thanks him
before throwing him over the bridge and jumping in himself.
Upon hitting the water though he's immediately filled with regret and
we discover that he was rescued by a patrol boat.
He awakens in hospital and as this is going on we get the reveal of Nadia and Mariannes plan.
Marianne pretended to be devastated at losing her daughter and she took enough pills to make
it seem like she was dead. Nadia then woke her up once Joe dumped her body and being assumed
dead means that she can now operate under the radar. Joe is an obsessive who can't
let things go and thus she has to take this step to stop her coming after her and her daughter.
Now back at the hospital, Kate arrives and confirms that Tom was setting up Joe due to
some DNA found on the real Rhy's body. However because of his death she's now gained all of his
power and resources and she's covered for Joe and made it so that he'll never be tied to the murder.
She makes a deal with Joe that they keep each other good and this is seemingly an opposite
to Love. Whereas those two enabled each other, they promise to keep themselves on the right
track which means Kate won't turn into her father and Joe won't turn into his Rhys side.
Both face a monumental task ahead of them and Kate is worried that she will be corrupted by
the business side of thing and go back to making choices that cost lives. Joe admits
his past to her along with his real name and he tells her everything. Most people would run for
the hill but they've made this promise and she of course has dealt with ruthless men before.
Now though it seems like Joe has turned a corner we get it revealed in the Nadia
scenes that he's still the same old joe you know. It was cracking me up to hear
him revealing his diabolical plans to Taylor Swift it's me and the lyrics of
that of course have her admitting she's the problem much like how Joe does. It also has a
line about how it's exhausting rooting for the anti-hero which very much sums up us.
We hear that the rich social crowd are still as toxic as ever except
for Pheobe who now teaches English in Thailand.
Marianne is back with her daughter and after learning that Joe is now
getting positive publicity she starts to put things in place to get him back.
From here we cut to New York to see that Joe has returned home to where it all began. He's even
bought a book shop and though we don't learn which one this is I don't think it'll surprise
anyone if it's revelaed its the one from season one. All the blame is put on Love and any tough
questions are shut down by PR. However Joe is clearly not ready to change and we discover
that he actually killed Nadias boyfriend and left the box with Rhys belongings He
gives her a reason for his death and says that she killed him after discovering it.
Now me and my mate Mo went back and forth over what actually happened with this as it's kind of
unclear what ends up going on with The Eat The Rich Killer. Mo took it as those crimes being
pinned on Nadia which is why she went to jail. I kinda saw it as being pinned on Eddie and then
Nadia found this and killed him. Here's what Joe says verbatim to kind of explain what happens:
Now there's gonna be a box found in your bedroom, by the police,
Rhys Montrose's things, anonymous tipster, they'll realise it was Eddie,
that's why you killed him. You have so many gifts, I'm looking forward to watching what you do next.
So yeah that's how I read it but look, I'm a moron mate, like an utter moron,
so make sure you leave a comment below on whether you agree with me or you agree with Mo.
Don't tell him thoguh cos it'll break his heart hearing so many people side with me over him.
Either way in prison Nadia has kept her mouth closed and overlooking New York,
Joe and Kate have vowed to change the world.
Killing is much easier now and Joe says that he's now honest about it.
Rather than trying to sell us the lie that he's a good guy he is finally embracing his
dark side and he'll do whatever he can to make sure that he and Kate stay on top.
Now going into the future there's actually not much we can go off if we look at the
source material. The third book centres around Joe moving to the midwest which is
where he obsessive over a woman called Mary Kay DiMarco. The sequel to this will
be released this year but the storyline in it is a far departure for the show.
I also think that the ending of the season coming full circle shows that
they are pretty much ready to wrap things up with Season 5.
Netflix are killers when it comes to cancelling shows so I'm hoping
that we get it but I can see things ending back where it all started.
Now Joe actually has several people out to get him at this point beyond just Marianne.
Though I do think she will come into it I can also see Nadia being brought back along with
Ellie. Jenna Ortega is so hot right now and she was actually supposed to appear in Season
4. However she was making Wednesday whilst it was being filmed and therefore couldn't
feature in it. I really hope they work things out for Season 5 and get her back. We could
get three women who know the truth with Joe attempting to bring down his empire.
All are aware of what hes really like and it would
give the fifth season some people we are desperate to see drop him.
I hope that happens too and I think that Joe embracing his dark side is probably
the final progression of his character. With nothing holding him back he's truly
gonna appear to the audience as the monster he was all along. Now he has the power and
resources to cover up any crime he commits and Kate has very much ended up with her
father. He has renegged on their deal and I can also see that happening with Kate too.
Both promised to keep each other good but with Joe
not sticking to that I doubt he'll be able to keep her on track either.
I'd love it if season 5 was a full on villain story with Marianne,
Ellie and Nadia on the other side trying to take them down.
We actually had our mates over at the streamr.com do an interview with showrunner Sera Gamble on the
series and Mo sent me over some of the answers in advance so I could talk about them in this video.
Lovely lad and here's what Sera had to say when it came to what characters she'd like to bring back.
There's so many I'd like to bring back and by the way, a bunch of dead ones. There are some
survivors at the end of this season that I think certainly have reason to show their
face again. I think we've mentioned this before, and Jenna has mentioned it as well,
that we had an idea to bring Ellie back and then we heard she got cast in some
other little show. I know Jenna is very, very busy, so if we're lucky enough to
get a tiny sliver of her time, maybe we can go back and tell that Ellie story.
So yeah maybe Ellie won't be integrated as much as I'd hope but they could still
Amanda Waller her and use her on skype calls all the time.
Now she also said that New York was going to be a victory march home and that though
she didn't confirm whether Rhys would be back she said Ed knocked it out the park.
So lots of things to look forward to as we get into a Season 5.
Now as for my thoughts on this entry, I do feel like You is kinda sticking to the
formula a bit too much and I'd love to see Joe at least face some consequences at some
point. Things always seem to work out for the best which does often rob the show of it's tension.
Again the twist fell flat for me on the reveal but as they worked it out
n the season I think it worked well and watching Ed Speelers just hamming it up
makes a great addition to the show. I like him as I like Joe and seeing
him being the devil on Joes shoulder works really well for the dynamics.
So yeah another pretty solid season but I am ready to wrap things up next time.
Hopefully we get that fifth entry but you never know with Netflix.
Anyway overall I'm scoring it a 7/10 and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it below.
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