- Back in 2020, there was only about four sports cars
you could actually buy that were even halfway new
and one of them was a Toyota Supra.
It was a Mark 5.
It was the name!
It was the feature.
It was the best sports car you could buy in the nineties.
And when it came back,
it came as nothing more than just a re-badged BMW Z-4
which had the whole audience losing their mind on
if it was actually a car that could pick it up
and hold the name of the Toyota Supra.
But this is Dakota's 2020 Toyota Supra GR.
And in today's episode of behind the wheel
we're gonna be telling you and our opinions
on if we think it's actually worth picking up
one of these things,
or if it's nothing more than just a re-badged BMW.
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Now, obviously one of the biggest flack points
of the new supra is quite honestly how much
of it is actually a BMW.
So here's what I can say, right off of the cuff
almost everything that I am seeing is BMW,
outside of the fact that the Toyota symbol
is on the front here and the,
the steering wheel doesn't feel like the one
that I'm used to, but the, the,
but what I can say is this,
BMW.
All BMW.
BMW.
All BMW.
Now the very first thing to remember with Dakota's car
is that this is static.
And that front lip that he's got
on this car is pretty gnarly.
I mean, it is a big boy
kinda like Dakota.
Let me just turn this car into my car temporarily
and then drive past FI really fast so he gets in trouble.
Holy!
Woohoo! This is a fun car!
What the hell?
So whats gonna be really exciting,
is Dakota and Gels are behind me in the new,
I think car build?
So they're gonna see,
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- [Gels] Oh he's toot!
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Dakota's never launched his car before
so I got to launch his car for him. (laughs)
So Dakota's car, since it to 2020, can be boosted,
it can be tuned, which is great.
So he's running the 93 boost and performance tune.
He's got the Michelin Pilot sport 4s'.
And probably one of the things that you notice
is he's also running aftermarket wheels.
Now these wheels are from Heritage.
These are Okayamas, they're three piece wheels
and they look absolutely baller.
Now I know a lot of people aren't a huge fan
of having like lift, convex wheels
but I actually think it looks really good
considering the look that Dakota is going for.
I mean, it is a clean setup.
I love the fact that it's static.
I love the fact that he went
with almost a convex style wheel design
versus a super concave wheel design.
And it's got a couple other things done to it too
like an HKS intake and things like that
but really it's intake, tune, exhaust,
coils, wheels, tires.
And, and with that, he's running a good amount of power.
And he said a couple things that he really likes
about the car, is honestly,
is the fact that it's got some timeless looks.
I mean, it does!
It looks fantastic.
I love the look of Dakota's car
but I will say a lot of my, maybe affirmation,
or maybe my, the reason I like the way that this car looks,
is much more because of what
the modifications he's done to it.
You're gonna notice that there's carbon fiber
pretty much all over the car, particularly that front lip.
And then the side, like side skirts.
They're not side skirts.
You call them something specifically.
Pretty much they're just carbon fiber boxes
that go next to the diffuser.
Now the diffuser is still OEM.
I already gave them a little bit of for it
so don't have to worry about that.
But for the most part
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it looks really good
and it feels fantastic!
It feels so good!
And even though it's powered,
even though it's heart,
it's transplanted heart is a B-58,
it is still an inline 6, it's still turbocharged
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and you can feel that.
You can feel the difference in how the car performs
because of the B58.
Now there's a lot of people that are against it.
There's a lot of people that are for it.
I, for one am for Toyota making any sports car.
Mostly because it's a dying breed.
There's not a lot of car manufacturers left out there
that are gonna be making sports cars forever.
And there's certainly not gonna be ones
with engines in the front.
It's all gonna be battery powered,
dual motor things that have fake noises coming through
the speakers because that's how they want you to enjoy cars.
Toyota doing something with BMW may not make everyone happy,
but when you get behind the wheel of a Toyota supra,
it'll make you happy.
There are just a couple pieces that feel
a little bit odd to me.
One, I think one of the weirdest things to me is,
is maybe it's just me, or maybe it's just
the BMWs I've driven,
but I am not used to seeing like, the dash not orange
because of BMW always has orange lighting
for their instrument clusters.
To not see that here does throw me a little bit for a loop
because everything in the car is BMW, but the color isn't.
On top of that, in case you wanna know anything cool,
Toyota did really try to develop this car
for true racing activities.
True racing pedigrees.
And you can see it in the way that
they actually developed the roof.
And a lot of people love these like,
roof designs that kind of have this bubbly top.
And not everybody actually knows this
but it's to actually fit your helmet.
It's so that when you come in with a helmet
you have the space clearance you need
because you got a big old wobbly head on.
So is it the best $50,000 car you could buy?
I think it's pretty darn close.
I think these cars are very, very timeless right now.
I think that there's a lot of good things going
on about them, but there are gonna be a couple
things that you're probably gonna need to deal with
or at least some flack that you're gonna catch
for having this car.
Now, number one is the fact that
yes, it has an automatic transmission.
You are the, the one thing that's gonna hurt
the value of these cars,
with the six speed manual coming out,
is 100% the fact that this is an eight speed,
auto transmission that's BMW through and through
no questions asked.
And one of the very things that makes BMW
so very special as a counter parted car
is the fact that they still have manuals
in a lot of their cars.
A lot of their track oriented M cars still
feature six speed manual transmission.
And that's huge because if you compare a mid-tier
automotive enthusiast that wants that engagement,
you're not gonna even be able to get it from the supra
and if you do, you're gonna have to buy a brand new one,
which means those are likely gonna be more expensive
and these are gonna likely drop in price.
Another thing that kind of peeves me
about the Toyota supra specifically
is I keep putting my left foot down to put the clutch in.
It is insane the amount of fake venting that this car has.
And I know what they're trying to do.
Maybe they're trying to make it so future models
will have usable ventilation,
particularly from the fenders and the rear pieces,
but it's all fake.
Which means when you go to wash the car,
the water doesn't drain out of those crevices
they just stay there,
so when you drive the car after the fact
you're gonna smear all the water on the side of the car.
And Dakota was actually telling me how annoying that is.
There's water in all these little crevices and holes
because supras are so curvy,
there's so many lines and so many indentations
throughout the car that when it does pocket,
typically it's pocketing in some sort of vent,
and then the vent doesn't have real vents!
So then it's just a fricking piece of plastic.
A tiny cone of plastic.
That's the same we used to give like, Scions crap about.
And now we're talking about a $60,000 sports car,
one might think that maybe, just maybe,
this should also have real vents.
I don't understand the difficulty with it.
Maybe it's for a trim option in the future
but I think that is a little bit,
just a little bit silly.
You really wanna get into the intricacies
of this car though?
There's a few pieces else
that I would say are great and not great.
I don't, I hate when B,
I hate when BMW and Toyota do this.
This piece right here needs to go.
I wanna put my hand at six o'clock when I'm cruising.
It's what I wanna do!
Which by the way the Toyota supra does an excellent job
at being a cruiser.
Because when you put this thing in comfort mode,
there's only two modes in the Toyota supra,
there's sport and there's comfort.
You don't have sport plus RPG, PG17, NCR,
you don't have all those.
You just have two. You got sport, you got comfort.
Which one do you want?
You want the traction control on? Do you want it off?
You get to pick.
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It seems that the people that have the biggest issue
with the Toyota Supra are the individuals
that would probably never actually own one
of these because they're too expensive.
Now I have the mic off my camera
or off my t-shirt because of the wind.
All right, leave me alone.
But if I could have a formula one mic, I probably would.
This car is actually an excellent platform.
It's fun.
It's exciting.
It's fast.
It's connected.
And even though it shares a lot,
and I mean a lot of Toyota parts,
it is still a bang on car.
It's just missing the third pedal
which they're finally introducing,
probably because Nissan is coming out with a Z.
Now, if it was up to me,
would I wait to get the third pedal
or would I buy a cheaper version that only has two?
I'd probably go for the three pedals
because I think that's the only thing
that this car is actually missing.
I mean, if the car was a movie,
it would be Avengers Infinity War, but not End Game.
I don't think we're there yet with this platform.
And if the car was a one liner,
I'd probably call it gabagool because it's everything
that you need to finish the line but it's just missing
a little bit of extra sauce.
I rated the interior a six outta 10 because
of the fact that shares so many components with Toyota.
And I'm not, because it shares so many components
with BMW and I'm not a fan of the exact copy and paste.
I really wish they would've done something
a little bit more special there.
But I did rate almost everything else
incredible high rankings.
I rated the exterior a nine out of 10.
I love everything about it
except for the fact that it has the fake vents.
It needs real vents.
They need to stop putting fake vents on cars
if it's not gonna be a functional vent.
I rated the modifications on this car and eight outta 10
because they did an excellent job
with the modifications specifically on this car.
I love the fact that it's static.
I love the fact that it's got convex wheels.
I love the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s'.
And the fortune auto coilovers make everything
feel really, really good.
And for performance, I also rated it in eight outta 10.
I love the way that this car actually feels.
Which gives us the highest rating out
of the whole group, a 31 out of 40.
Now you'll have to let us know in the comment section below.
And if you like the rating of the car,
or if you'd pick one of these up,
or if you're gonna wait for the third pedal to come through,
which is gonna be like next year.
Let us know in the comment section below.
And if you're looking for wheels, tires, or suspension
be sure to check us out at fitmentindustries.com.
I'm from Alex from Fitment Industries
and we will see you later.
Peace.
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