KENNEDY: WELL, LET'S FACE IT.
A A LOT OF AMERICANS ARE TIRED
OF THE CURRENT SPECIAL COUNSEL
AND WHAT COULD WE POSSIBLY GAIN
FROM A SEQUEL EXCEPT FOR BILLS
AND FEWER ANSWERS.
JOINING ME NOW, COHOST OF THE
FIVE, KIMBERLY GILL FOIL WHO IS
ALSO A PROSECUTOR AND WORKED FOR
THE LADA.
>> THE LOS ANGELES DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN SAN
FRANCISCO.
KENNEDY: LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO FEEL LIKE THIS WHOLE THING
IS POLITICIZED, SO UNFAIR THAT
THEY WANT TO BALANCE IT OUT WITH
A SPECIAL COUNSEL.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS.
>> IT'S KIND OF THE IDEA AND
OVERALL ATMOSPHERE IN D.C. WHICH
IS PEOPLE SAY OH, THE SWAMP, OR
THAT IT'S FRAUGHT WITH POLITICS,
PARTISAN DIVIDE, IDEOLOGY RULES
INSTEAD OF COMMON SENSE OR
PUTTING THE INTEREST OF THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST.
SO THE IDEA THAT YOU COULD GET
SOMEONE WHO IS MORE 0 A
SOMEONE WHO IS MORE O A
SOMEONE WHO IS MORE OFA
SOMEONE WHO IS MORE OF A NEUTRAL
ARBITRATOR TO GO OVER IT AND
INVESTIGATE IT IN A WAY WHERE
PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE MORE
CONFIDENCE IN THE OUTCOME, NOT
SOMEONE ALIGNED WITH ONE SIDE OR
THE OTHER.
CONDOLEEZZA RICE MADE THESE
COMMENTS WHEN SHE WAS ON "THE
VIEW."
AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU HAVE TO
LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MOVE
FORWARD.
WE'RE FRAUGHT WITH ALL OF THESE
INVESTIGATIONS AND SPECIAL
INTERESTS AND SPECIAL COUNSEL.
YES, IT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE.
THAT'S FOR SURE.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN
TRUTH AND JUSTICE TO BE HAD,
THERE SHOULD BE NO PRICE THAT
YOU SHOULDN'T PAY FOR IT.
BUT IF IT'S GOING ALL THE WAY
BACK, 2015, 2016, GOING OVER ALL
OF THIS AND REHASHING,
RELITIGATING ALL OF THOSE
ISSUES, OKAY, TO WHAT END.
>> THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU HAVE A
SECOND SPECIAL COUNSEL, THERE'S
IN GUARANTEE THIS PERSON IS
GOING TO BE OBJECTIVE.
KENNEDY: RIGHT.
>> THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THIS
PERSON WILL STAY IN THEIR LANE
WITH ACCEPTABLE BOUNDARIES AND
GO AFTER TRUTH AND JUSTICE WHICH
ARE SO DESPERATELY -- THEY NEED
SERVICING RIGHT NOW.
YOU COULD FIND A PERSON WHO
BECOMES POLITICIZED IN THE
PROCESS.
YOU COULD FIND SOMEONE WHO
MISSES, YEAH, YOU KNOW, HILLARY
ISN'T PRESIDENT, THEREFORE WE
DON'T HAVE TO GO AFTER HER AND
USE WHAT SUBJECTIVE LOGIC THEY
NEED IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY WHAT
THEY'RE DOING.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE
THING ABOUT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL
NOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHICH
DIRECTION IT'S GOING TO GO IN.
WE'RE ALL TRYING TO READ THE TEA
LEAST AND WE'RE ALL TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT MUELLER IS GOING
FOR.
AND RIGHT NOW IT'S STILL A VERY
BIG MYSTERY.
IF HE FAILS AND THERE NEEDS TO
BE SOME CHANGE TO THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL LAW, LET HIM DO IT.
I THINK ADDING ANOTHER ONE ON
ONLY COMPOUNDS THE PROBLEM.
>> YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VERY
SUBSTANTIAL SCHOOL OF THOUGHT IN
PEOPLE THAT FEEL EXACTLY LIKE
YOU DO, THAT IT'S GOING TO
EXACERBATE IT.
WHAT ARE WE REALLY GOING TO GET
IN THE END IN TERMS OF AN
OUTCOME HERE.
WHAT ARE THE TRUE ACTUAL GOALS
THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO
ACHIEVE HERE, THE OBJECTIVES.
SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT
ISN'T JUST OKAY THIS SOUNDS LIKE
A GOOD IDEA.
LET'S DO IT.
IT'S AN NCHTION ABOUT AN INVESTI
IT'S AN NCHTION ABOUT AN INVESTA
IT'S AN NCHTION ABOUT AN INVESTI
IT'S AN NCHTION ABOUT AN INVESTN
IT'S AN NCHTION ABOUT AN INVESTA
IT'S AN NCHTION ABOUT AN INVESTO
IT'S AN NCHTION ABOUT AN INVESTT
IT'S AN NCHTION ABOUT AN INVESTA
IT'S AN NCHTION ABOUT AN INVESTN
INVESTIGATION ABOUT AN
INVESTIGATION.
AND IT CAN SPIRAL OUT OF
CONTROL.
THE PARTISAN POLITIC THING IS
WHAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE UPSET
ABOUT.
YOU SEE A LOT OF STRIFE AND
DIVIDE AND THE RHETORIC BEING
USED IN THE COUNTRY FROM BOTH
SIDES.
AND THIS SORT OF FEEDS INTO
THAT.
WELL WHAT IS YOUR SIDE UP TO,
IT'S WORSE THAN OUR SIDE.
I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU OUR MEMO,
LET ME SEE YOURS.
THAT TYPE OF THING.
KENNEDY: GREAT ILLUSTRATION IS
THE DUELING MEMOS INSTEAD OF
GETTING MORE TRANSPARENCY AND
SEEING THE RAW DATA AND THE FISA
WARRANT APPLICATION WHICH WE
SHOULD HAVE SEEN IN THE FIRST
PLACE.
>> AND I THINK WE MAY WANT TO
GET DO THE BOTTOM OF THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION FIRST TO SEE WHAT
THE OUT YOM IS OF THAT,
OTHERWISE IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT,
THEN THERE'S AN INVESTIGATION
AND THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT
THINGS GOING ON.
THEN THIS IS HAPPENING AT THE
EXPENSE OF WHAT, GOVERNMENT, AND
GETTING THINGS DONE.
KENNEDY: EXACTLY RIGHT.
>> MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BEING
SMARTER AND DOING MORE WITH LESS
AND MAKING SURE THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT'S SERVING THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE AND ISN'T ABOUT
PUTTING EGG ON THE FACE OF THE
OTHER SIDE.
KENNEDY: IT'S LIKE I'M GOING TO
GET MY BIG BROTHER SO HE CAN
FIGHT YOU EVERY TIME YOU DO
SOMETHING WRONG TO ME ON THE
KICK BALL COURT.
>> SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS.
I WAS THE BIG SISTER TO GO OVER
THERE FOR THE LITTLE BROTHER
WHICH HE DIDN'T THINK WAS SO
COOL KEN
COOL.KEN
KENNEDY: HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE A
RESOLUTION.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, GOVERNING MY
SPECIAL COUNSEL IS NO WAY TO