(soft upbeat music) - Hey good morning everybody,
and welcome to the vlog here at
New England Reptile Distributors,
and I'll tell you what,
today we are gonna talk about a unbelievably wild animals.
This, of course, is a super micro-scale,
or scaleless Ball Python.
You guys know I love scaleless snakes, corn snakes,
rat snakes, all that type of stuff.
And yeah, I did produce the very first
scaleless Ball Python, but these guys
are actually a different mutation
called micro-scale whereas the ones I produce
came from a super scaleless head.
Nevertheless, crazy the way that you
pull those scales away and things look really wild!
And Kevin has some pretty cool mutations with these ones
so we're just gonna jump in with Kevin,
look at a bunch of super micro-scales, and you know,
kinda just revel at the awesomeness of these animals.
(air whooshing) So this is is the incomplete dominant
micro-scale, so it definitely is,
it's wild because you know, it is
really different than the scaleless heads.
Like you said, they have little tiny scales.
Now, I will see some jumbling in scaleless heads,
but nothing as extreme as this, so I mean
Does it ever, what else is the difference between them?
- So like, obviously the pebbled scalation.
So I can pretty much feel an adult scaleless,
or micro-scale excuse me, and feel that it feels
different than let's say a scaleless head
cause a scaleless head is smoother.
So we get some animals with really
extreme, this one's reasonable,
but the scalation is gone or it's very very small.
And they often, look there's the heat pits,
- Yeah so the heat pit's aren't there either,
they're completely gone.
And you're right, like the back right here is literally
different scales than a normal Ball Python.
Because a scaleless head is just like
a normal Ball Python, just lacking some scales on it's head.
Now, sometimes you can have,
pretty radical amount of missing scales,
but you will never have the heat pits gone.
I mean, never, that's like, I've never seen that before.
So, that's a pretty radical difference as well.
- The only basic differences is
where they originated.
And so I have this phenotype,
which is just different than the scaleless heads,
but it's just a different line because
all the other ones come from you.
Come from that, your one animal,
and I have to give you a lot of props because
when you started with your first one
with a little bit of missing scalation in the head
- Yeah, everyone thought that was crazy.
- And you stuck to it,
and you nailed it literally perfect.
(air whooshing)
- [Camera Operator] Dean Dobrik, dude?
What up bro?
- Check out my YouTube channel,
it's at... David?
- Blogspot dot com.
(air whooshing)
- Now microscale kind of adds something,
it's like an enhancing gene.
Legitimately this is a micro-scale lesser
Coral Glow.
- [Brian] Right.
- [Kevin] And the original micro-scale
had this pattern reduction, almost like it's an Enchi.
- [Brian] Right.
- [Kevin] And you still see it, it's genetic
- [Brian] Oh, you totally see it. Yeah, it's crazy
how it does actually change the pattern of the animal.
I mean, it cleans it up a tremendous amount,
makes really crisp marks, it's just wild.
I had no idea that the entire bodies were like this.
it's wild.
- But you can see, just rub it
- [Brian] Oh my gosh.
- [Kevin] And you can kinda feel it.
[Brian] Yeah it feels more like an Angolan Python.
- That's exactly what I think.
It Definitely feels like an Angolan Python.
- That's wild.
That is so cool.
(air whooshing)
- [Kevin] Right here, is a coral glow, GHI micro-scale.
Could be a Pastel too I think.
- [Brian] yeah it might be because of those things.
it's amazing again how that micro-scale really does
put a kind of interesting spin on the animal.
- [Kevin] And look. No heat pits?
- Yeah, no heat pits on this at all?
Wow that's wild.
And yeah, again with the scaleless head I just assumed
the micro-scales had mainly to do with things on their head.
So, interesting how it affects the entire body
and changes the pattern, the color and certainly the feel.
So, definitely I didn't expect that
this is the first time I've actually seen him in person,
and pretty wild I mean that's pretty cool.
Oh my god.
- It won't bite you in the nose like that gator did.
- (laughs) yeah like the gator did?
(air whooshing)
I didn't know if it was gonna be genetic
but when I bred it the first time
and some of the babies came out missing scales.
I immediately jumped to,
the super may be completely scaleless.
I've said this a million times,
that I don't know how I made that jump.
Like, it was a crazy jump, to go from missing a few scales
to being completely scaleless.
- I remember, I remember about that.
And even I might have been like,
"oh, well good luck with that."
- Yeah I think most people thought I was crazy.
And when it really came down to the end
when I was cutting that clutch I thought I was crazy.
That was the first time the doubt...
for like three years I had been thinking like,
oh this is gonna produce a scaleless animal.
And then when I finally got to the point where I was gonna
cut the eggs, I was like "why would I think that?"
So I was really doubting, and then when I cut the first egg
there was a normal Ball Python,
I thought for sure "okay, done."
- And so yours came out of the wild, so,
did you buy it that way?
- Yeah, so what happened with mine is that
I was bringing a shipment of Ball Pythons in.
You know, a bunch of high-end Ball Pythons.
And I probably wouldn't have bought this animal
if it wasn't for the fact
that I was already bringing them in.
What happened, my West African guy
sent me an e-mail, this was when we were
getting e-mails from them, and sent me an e-mail
and there was a picture of an animal that was
missing quite a few scales on his head.
Pretty similar to this one right here,
without the micro-scale part.
But quite a bit of missing scales.
I literally didn't think anything of it,
and I was like "listen man",
and I can't believe I'm gonna tell you guys,
there's a real secret behind this, I was like
"I'll give you a hundred bucks. Throw it in the shipment."
Literally, that's what I valued it at.
Like it wasn't even a big deal, right?
And he was like, "okay, fine."
For a hundred bucks he shipped it to me, and I really
didn't think much of it until
a year and a half later when I bred it,
and some of it's babies came out scaleless head.
That's when I was like Oh my God,
there might be a super version of that scaleless.
- [Brian] What are you doing?
- Walking.
- [Brian] I know, I haven't even seen you!
I've been looking forever and you just ignore me.
Are you upset about me? What did I do?
- No I'm trying to get stuff done.
- [Brian] Oh man.
- I know, I know.
- [Brian] Unlike you that doesn't work.
Okay good, you keep up the good work.
- I'm the only one here that works.
(air whooshing)
- [Brian] Are you David Dobrik?
- Actually, I am, matter of fact, oh yeah,
I've been breeding snakes my whole life.
- [Brian] I love your vlog, dude.
- Oh thanks.
- [Brian] I'm a subscriber.
- Which ones do you like the best?
What was your best episode?
What was your favorite episode?
- [Brian] My favorite one is when
that guy, his name is Brian, got bit
in the face by a (unclear animal name)
it was a good one
- That was a good one!
- [Brian] I'll get a picture, with you later, right?
- Alright, yeah sounds good.
We'll see, Maybe.
(air whooshing)
- This one is wild looking, I mean the head,
the baldness on the head here is crazy.
So what's the genes in it?
- This is likely a Coral Glow.
Super pastel, (mumbling)
- Oh, that makes sense.
Wow, that's a really wild animal.
And again, when you start to strip away scales
things change so much.
So, even though the micro-scales has an expression with
the phenotype, it's pretty wild to think
when this animal gets all scaleless
how crazy it's gonna look, I mean...
Every time I see a new mutation in scalelss,
whether it's micro-scale or scaleless heads,
super scaleless heads, it's wild how different
it looks, so he's far ahead of the game.
I mean, he's breeding into all kinds of other stuff,
so this ones gonna eventually be a pretty awesome animal
to add to the repertoire of scaleless animals.
(air whooshing)
Now onto the actual scaleless animals
I mean, wow it's crazy.
Again, we produce scaleless Ball Pythons
but we only produce normals because we
hadn't really bred them beyond that.
So now we're getting into some mutations,
it is ridiculous how it looks.
So, is this like a bumblebee or an enchi?
- Bumblebee, Enchi, super micro-scale.
And you can see, they get these...
they'll get like a little mask, and they'll
stick this piece of shed in the front
of their eyes, and sometimes it breaks off.
So you have to do due diligence.
Now, this is a learning experience for me,
so I think I'm gonna get better at
keeping these.
But I think it's just one of those things that I can just,
I needed to know, even before I was
selling this stuff, I needed to understand
where we were at before I could just
try to launch a product, and start selling it.
But it's hard to like, you know,
what's the quality of the animal?
Is the animal even viable?
And all that stuff like that.
And it is indeed viable
- [Brian] with some proper care
- As they get bigger, they get better.
So, I think this is just the tricky time.
They are so small, small mass and all that.
But you get this, just super clean,
they're very very soft.
I remember first touching yours,
and I was just like "Oh my God."
- it's crazy, the first time you touch a scaleless snake,
it is ridiculous how it doesn't feel at all like,
it's smooth it's soft.
I mean we've heard a million things;
people sometimes say it feels like a peach.
Sometimes people say it feels like old skin.
The weirdest thing we had was a dry carrot?
I don't know what, you know,
I don't know how that was in there.
But regardless (laughing)
- Oh well being a professional dry carrot
handler, I would say that's completely wrong.
Dry carrots, that's like doing them down of dry carrot.
Dry carrots are beautiful.
(laughing)
(air whooshing)
- It's the story that Amir bought it from Bill
and then sold it to you? Or someone bought it
from somebody and...
- Yeah yeah, so, it was kicking around
they knew this snake with the missing scales
on its head and the pebbled scales
and it looks different, and it was
kicking around for a while.
Amir got wise to it and got it and then
sold it to one of my guys.
And you were way ahead, so this was like,
I came in way after the fact.
I didn't have anything.
So I got into this project, and they were like,
"we want you in the project because
you can kinda get the whole thing rolling."
not until just a few years ago did we actually
produce the Homozygous super expression of this.
And ultimately, so the scaleless head
and the micro-scale both make scaleless snakes.
As babies, you really have to coddle them
and care for them more than a normal Ball Python.
They lose their moisture, they're very small body mass.
They lose their body moisture so they get stuck sheds.
They go into repeated sheds.
That's part of their whole thing
and now I've stepped in, and done some babying now.
To get these guys okay,
so I think ultimately what we're gonna
find out is, as they get bigger,
they have more mass, with some babying
they'll be a fine snake.
(air whooshing)
- So this is just a lesser than.
[Kevin] Yes, so you got that one.
That's like real money.
- So this is the homozygous micro
with a incomplete dominant lesser.
- So if people are like, listening to some of
our gibberish when we're talking about
phenotype, genotype, homozygous.
If we say something is the phenotype,
like the pastel jungle, it is the look.
But it's a heterozygous for the full expression
which is called the homozygous.
So the phenotype is a visual pastel jungle.
The genotype, it is a het superpastel,
and the full expression is the superpastel
or the homozygous.
And do you know who made those all first?
- You.
- Hey, And it was all my name.
- There you go, there you go.
And everyone's kinda mixing with that.
Kevin has always been ahead of the curve.
Not only in the production of animals, but also kinda
the understanding of what we're actually
doing with the animals.
And as well as putting terms on things and stuff.
- How about names?
Goofy names?
- Oh Kevin's good with goofy names
but I think we're pretty good.
I think we're pretty good.
But his are the worst.
- But remember, I was kinda like
the first person to start that.
Cause even the pastel, the coral glow,
all the, I mean all these different, bumble bee,
honey bee, killer bee, super pastel.
Those are all just my names,
and I was doing that to excite people.
Because I was still breeding Ball Pythons because I couldn't
afford to do all the pythons and stuff like that.
And, I mean dead honest dude, when I was
watching the stuff that you had, you had so,
you were ahead of me in so many different ways.
I was still, struggling to be that weirdo hobbyist,
but how can I do this and actually make it a living?
- Yup
- And you were more proficient because
you had pushed ahead with all the Colubrids.
- Yeah
- And that was making you money.
- Well I took a lot of the Colubrid mentality
to Ball Pythons, is what happened.
- The one good thing too that you have key, you have Lori.
- Oh yeah, absolutely.
- And no joke, dude I had no one.
I had no one, I was so
- No, Lori's, I've said this a million times.
All my businesses without Lori, I would fail.
I don't know how someone like you does it without Lori.
(air whooshing)
- [Brian] Do you ever work or do you just hang out?
- I just hang out, dude.
It's manager privileges.
- [Brian] You're the manager, right?
- Manager privileges, yeah.
- [Brian] Set by example right?
- Hundred percent.
- [Brian] Okay good.
- Yeah.
(air whooshing)
(laughing) What are you doing in the bathroom dude?
- [Brian] You pooped on a snake?
- There was one in the room...
- He pooped on the snake.
(air whooshing)
(soft upbeat music)
(air whooshing)
- It'll be interesting to see, yeah
once they are older and they turn around.
But you know, again, silkies I think is
and that's the silky dragons, the scaleless bearded dragons,
are probably the perfect kind of example of what
these things are like, right?
You know what I mean?
They're still viable, you can still keep them
their whole life, but your gonna have
to put some extra work into it.
- You like, moisturizer on the back.
Sometimes getting the scales off.
And what you do not wanna do
is you do not wanna leave the skin on it, lingering.
So the skin is now food for,
let's say ambient bacteria and actually fungus.
- Now why do you think that scaleless Corn Snakes,
scaleless rat snakes are so viable?
- But we have different
lines of scaleless corn snakes, don't we?
Cause I heard one line is quite good,
and then I think anything that has
partial scalation is the key.
The ventral.
- They have the ventral scale, yeah.
- I think that is actually key because
part of them is doing the normal shedding routine
and then the rest of it.
Cause the scales slide off the back of the animal,
so if I have normal scalation developing
- [Brian] it's like a tractor
- Yeah, exactly.
That was the one thing I was hoping about the super micros
it would have animals that would have
some partial scalation, and so far we haven't seen that,
so we basically have scaleless animals.
And it's a fun thing,
It's a really modified thing too because
usually we're modifying a pattern or color,
but now we have an anomaly where we're
actually getting a physical change.
(air whooshing)
- This one is one I'm pretty excited about
because, obviously it's a pinstripe,
and I was really curious what a pinstripe
was gonna look like with scaleless.
Now, is there anything else in this besides pinstripe?
- [Kevin] It's possibly yellow belly.
- [Brian] Okay got ya.
- And the one thing I noticed with Homozygous
expression in micro-scale; when you're looking
at these combos it becomes very confusing
because it doesn't mirror a lot of the stuff
that we're already making now.
So, the color is all wrong.
The pattern is wrong.
So this is, once again I'm kinda thrown back into,
"wow, I just gotta kinda figure this out."
And I'm just, I've been kinda quietly dealing with these.
And looking at them.
- Well this is amazing, like I said.
Again, it's interesting how the scales
can add so much color, texture, pattern to things
and when you take those scales away, crazy
how crisp and different the colors can be.
And I mean, this is, again, this was the animal
I was dreaming of when I first produced
the scaleless Ball Python.
Cause Pinstripes mean so much to me obviously.
And there you have it guys, super micro-scale,
scaleless Ball Pythons are pretty awesome.
Not only to see what we did with our stuff
eventually, but now come here and see what's
going on with the micro-scales with Kevin.
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