hi guys Kirk and Jay here with Kirk Giordano plastering today we're going to do on video is
a 30 day experiment I'm just gonna explain what we're doing 30 days from now we're gonna pull
some tape off to prove a point my buddy David he works for echo tape now he saw the video we did
with vinyl tape but he says Kirk I got a much better tape than that stuff you're using and
I said show me so anyway he sent me this case and he explained what it was he says Kirk the echo red
tape you're gonna pay a lot more for it than the gray because of the red in here ultraviolet rays
the Sun can beat it up and it'll last a little bit longer this sort of looks like a duct tape
to me but it's not it tears real easy you just grab it right between your fingers and put your
fingers together tears real really easy now for guys like me that you homeowners this probably
won't apply to you but we're gonna do a scratch we're gonna do a brown coat and then a color coat
it's gonna take a solid month and if this tape fails for whatever reason that means when I pull
this off and it leaves a vinyl residue I got to come back and clean off that vinyl residue and
have I had that happen before absolutely there's the echo tape on this window and on this window
is the pollak tape or I was called it vinyl tape which we've been using and I put more on the other
side there the idea is the Sun will beat down on this and as the Sun beats down on it say for
usually it's 20 days in the hot Sun it'll melt the adhesive and it's a real drag to get it off or if
say a homeowner says hey Kirk we want to leave that because we haven't chose a color we need
it because we don't want it for whatever reason I've had reasons where our tape was on houses for
45 60 days and I've had to come back with my crew and spend hours and hours removing all that tape
residue so I generally if somebody says hey Kirk I want it on for long message you remove the tape
or we'll remove it you repaint retai pit because of this anyway what what David is saying with this
echo tape you pay a couple bucks more it'll stay on for 60 days so because it's only for 30 days
and granted we are at the end of February we have March coming up not that hot but the homeowner
here is going to hydrate these walls and it gets cold at night so as he hydrates the wall this gets
wet the cold hits it and when we pull it off 330 days from now it could still leave a residue but
I'm curious to see about this now this again it kind of looks like a duct tape to me the echo
tape but but he says Kirk I guarantee it's 60 days stuff and in fact Milgard tested it and I thought
well [ __ ] no guard tested it that's good enough for me anyway 30 days from now we're gonna come
we're gonna pull this and see and I got a couple on the other side just in case so we'll pull it
then and we'll see just how factual this statement is all right guys back to the same house Jay just
spread it I floated it we always take the tape off as soon as we float this while this is still
wet I'm a prove a boy still wet anyway this is a float finish they're gonna paint it anyhow so I
can touch that up all right my buddy Dave works for echoes its tensile Kirk mill guard already
tested it and when they sell their windows there's a little piece of paper that says they recommend
echo-y for they've done all the tests let's put it that way now this particular tape is a cloth
tape UB cloth tape from echo I have no clue what's going to happen here but it's been about six weeks
and we're in the in the spring so we'll see what happens anyway generally what I'll do is I'll pull
it from the bottom and let's see what we got and notice I got a piece of cloth in my back pocket
and I got a little handy dandy piece of plastic so sometimes they've been on a long time I'll do
that this is caulking okay that came off pretty good cool beans let's see this usually comes
off pretty good too and this is a we use this poly tape or vinyl there's as a cloth that's a
well maybe there's this a wee bit better obviously most be a lot better it's been a long time on here
so I won't mention this tape right here but we get it out at our material yards I guess Dave you're
right it's it's a better tape echo tape this is the I'm using the red Dave said when if you do
it and it comes out okay and you're happy with it tell people to start to love the grade I said why
he said the gray is cheaper I said why is that he said the dyes man so we did the red which cost a
little bit more but the gray is a little cheaper but now you can see why Milgard recommended them
okay guys back again I had something I wanted to explain on the echo tape but it was kind of
complicated I wasn't certain that my followers would understand but I'm gonna give it my best
shot because I had a circumstance which called for my assistance I had a fellow JC who was in
Livermore and he had a custom built house and he called me says Kirk can you come check out
why these walls are a fluorescing and I said okay so we went out I looked at it that's not
a fluorescence what that is is it's just typical staining he says well we're gonna paint the whole
house anyway I said well go ahead he says view I thought you can't paint efflorescence I said you
can't paint efflorescence the fluorescence number one is just a salt that's in say sand where to
sand come it comes from the ocean so there's a salt residue sometimes left in it salt is in the
water sometimes salt is in the rain sometimes so I said it's not salt go ahead and paint with
what you're doing I'm gonna give you an example of a couple things that happened to me twice in
the last two years one of them was a $2,000 hit okay I had the tape and why we're on tape guys I
don't wanna get to sidetrack eko eko tape say like you're in a mountain or a cave a top of a cliff
and you scream and it echoes that's echo tape no I'm not trying to sell their product because
that's not what I'm here I usually tell good products that I use because people ask I haven't
used echo tape before except for this one video but now I'm gonna start using it my my shelves are
going to be stocked with only echo tape because granted I sometimes have the tape on a house for
three weeks up to five weeks not intentionally I don't want it on that long getting back to
the Livermore job I went there and I said here's what happened they hosed down the wall and it went
through the plastic that they had on the windows and the fella says so the tape failed I said no
the tape didn't fail the tape they had was not echo it was a white tape it was a poly tape like
this a vinyl tape and if you look inside the tapes they'll tell you what state what country it's from
we're not going to go there as far as what tape they use because that's not what this is about I
have that same tape in my house but what they did is they had that tape on this house in Livermore
we get days of say 95 degrees to a hundred now on one side of the house that baked the tape so
the tape they had baked which mean it ruffled so when they hose they hydrated the walls prior to
the color coat it went through the tape and down inside the window and if you notice when I did
this tape this video earlier I pulled my tape on the window the same day I even touched it to show
you it's still tacky why although that wasn't a dark color I can still Kent blotchiness underneath
so what they did was they left the tape that night and they did a dark color they used a lifestyle
color how did I get beat up a couple times well I did a couple jobs and the folks could not choose a
color I was going on 40 days on one job and I said man I need you to choose a color because my tape
is gonna wear out and I'm gonna have to scrub all your windows down with the product and to
make a long story short that tape was on close to 60 days and no it was an echo tape which they say
you could have it on 60 days we spent an average of four days six guys scrubbing the frames because
they didn't have the sheetrock on they didn't have this they couldn't even choose a color and when
I tried to persuade them not to use a dark color they said well we want the dark color make a long
story short we went with a dark color so that tape that they used in Livermore didn't fail it
was just at the end of its lifecycle on the other side of that job in Livermore where they had that
black color it was a dark dark gray it was perfect and I said well this side gets no Sun so the moral
of the story is guys for US contractors you're plastering contractors if you're watching this all
of you guys know exactly what I'm talking about if you're doing an addition or a whole house you
have to let that scratch coat the brown coat cure for at least two to three weeks you're working on
the house letting all these coats cure prior to the color by the time all the dust settles
you've got five weeks now unless you're going to use something like this you're gonna be scraping
film off of the window frames adhesives are gonna scrape off or it's gonna bleed down when you pull
the tape that's why I always pull my tape same date last thing as I said earlier in this video is
this is a great tape it looks white but it's great it costs a little bit less why go with a grey and
pay eight bucks when you can go to the red where it costs anywhere between ten and twelve where
the red has an ultraviolet ray type of color in it the pigment avoids this the harsh Sun so they
got sixty days on this they guarantee it the Grays they don't they don't last that long the tape they
had on this other house was a different color and the red is the best guy so if you're going online
looking for echo tape and just type in echo tape I haven't even done it I just happen to receive a
box from my buddy David anyway guys it's a lot more complicated than that but I don't want to
throw too many issues at you I have been beat up before with the tape failure anyway my name
is Kirk Jason on the camera we're about to get to work on another job here but I thought I'd throw
out this last bit information on this echo tape as usual we thank you for watching we'll see you
guys on the next one once again folks we thank you for watching and I really enjoy all your
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