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But yeah, with that said, let's just jump into it.
And what we're jumping into is hot tubs on Twitch.
So what Twitch is primarily known
as being the streaming destination for all things gaming
it also has an absolutely massive just chatting section.
You know, there
you have people that are doing things like a talk shows.
They're, they're just commenting
and then watching things on the internet.
And then you have the scantily clad female streamers
and there's been a big debate around that.
And all of it is basically stepping back to what women are
and are not allowed to wear on the platform.
And specifically what we're talking
about today are streams that involved people
primarily women sitting in a hot tub in a bathing suit
while talking to viewers.
The thing to understand is
that this is allowed by Twitch's rules
because while generally they do not allow partial nudity
they do allow contextual exceptions.
Like if you are in a setting where a swimsuit is normal
attire so long as the swimsuit falls
in line with their coverage standards.
And a slew a female streamers saw this exception,
and were like all right let's go.
And doing these hot tub streams
has made some people incredibly successful.
People like indiefoxx who have gained large followings
regularly doing this though she's also faced bans.
You've also had female streamers
like Amouranth kind of becoming the poster child
of this scandal if you look at certain publications.
Though, of course the situation is not without controversy
because you have some people saying that these streams
are sort of tasteless or a death to Twitch.
Some saying it's not fair for other streamers
that they're taking away viewers.
And you have others saying these women
should be able to do what they want.
That the criticisms are just people slut-shaming
or being anti-women.
Though we've also seen big names getting involved
like xQc who tweeted, "I'm gonna be honest,
this hot tub meta is by far the most pathetic thing
we've seen on Twitch in forever.
What a sad reality,
please get this trash off the front page."
But you have others like Hillary Pokket Nicole saying,
"We live in a world where it's okay for men
to sexualize women in media all the time.
The minute a woman owns her own sexuality is somehow,
gasp, immoral. Stop it.
Meanwhile, you have other people like Daphne saying
it's not fair to hate on the women who are doing this,
right, you can disagree with it
but saying it's Twitch's job to have rules
and for Twitch's job to enforce rules
but they do so inconsistently
and also saying it's not really a big issue.
People eventually get bored of these things anyway.
And in fact, some are already saying
that these hot tub streams are dying down
but it still has sparked a conversation
about sexual content on the platform in general.
For example,
you had Swedish streamer AnnieFuchsia going viral
for her take on the situation.
In the clip, she pulls up a photo
of a streamer on Twitch who was dressed
in what appears to be kind of lingerie
or a lingerie adjacent outfit.
Explaining that, during that creator's stream,
she was doing yoga, jumping on a trampoline, and adding.
- I don't know, like we are, we're meant to see this
as normal things, IRL.
Like we're not, this is like a no big deal, right?
And I think when we have these things as like no big deal
that means when you have actual porn
it has to become so much more hardcore
to be counted as porn.
- Later adding that sometimes sexual content
is just expected of women.
And in this debate there's people saying, yeah,
if you keep normalizing it people are going to say,
well why are these other female streamers doing it?
And ultimately with this story, as far as my opinion,
I think it comes down to two things
and I'm probably going to get shit for this.
One, the policing of female bodies in general,
which is a constant thing we see in so many different facets
of our society.
And two, a private company
with rules that they make and enforce.
And if as is there is a loophole whether intended or not
that allows these female streamers to do this
or really any streamer to do this, props!
You figured out a way to maximize everything
within the lines of the terms and service.
And it's helping you thrive, props to you.
Actually, if you think that's a surprising take from me
then you haven't been watching me long enough.
You know, my show over a decade ago
was a completely different disgusting monster beast
of a Philip DeFranco show.
One of the ways it was different is I got massive views
because I put very attractive
and often scantily clad women in my thumbnail.
So how am I as someone that personally benefited and gained
off of the bodies of women ever going to have an opinion
that's like "women shouldn't be able to do that
with their body".
In my eyes that's just them taking the power back,
having the control.
And like most of my opinions,
if you're not hurting somebody else, you do you, baby boy.
You do you, baby girl.
Which, actually when looking further into this,
I mean one of the biggest female streamers on any platform,
Valkyrie, had a similar opinion
when talking about the space.
- So I just, I just don't get what the issue is.
If no one's hurting anyone, why, what's the issue?
I don't get it.
- But where I think things get muddy for me, cloudy for me,
where maybe I'm the most sensitive
and I try to kind of take in more information,
but you know when you have female streamers speaking up
saying that the rise of the scantily clad women and hot tubs
especially if they're doing kind of sexualized content
or they dress like that
and then they're doing stuff like jumping on the trampoline
and doing yoga and certain poses as a way to show.
That blowing up and becoming more normalized
could also normalize people going to their streams
where they don't do that and expecting it.
But there, you'll have people pushing back saying,
well that's more of an audience moderation problem.
If people want what you're not offering
and they're being rude about it, just kick them out.
But also the argument against that is if Twitch
is just putting your stream and that other stream
right next to each other
because you're both listed as Just Chat then what do you do?
I mean, really I'd love to just know any
and all thoughts you have on this.
Cause I'm still digesting it.
But yeah, where I stand now,
I don't have a problem with any of these streamers.
And actually, even if you are angry
I could understand you being angry
at Twitch because they could have finished this off.
They could have killed this, this whole issue off yesterday.
When I see these streamers
these third party contractor partners I mean
I don't see them doing anything that I wouldn't do
if I was in their position.
I mean, if we're being honest with one another
if I was a young, attractive woman on the internet now
you probably would already see my butt hole,
are you kidding me?
You see the size of the bags
some of these girls have been getting?
There's just not a big enough market as is
or I'm about to find out in a very uncomfortable way
that there is.
And I'm going to have to make
some really important life decisions soon.
I mean, I've always wanted a private jet.
I mean, owning a yacht would be cool--
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Then, for today's edition of policing caught on tape.
We should definitely talk about people
across the country expressing massive outrage
over an excessive use of force incident
that happened last year
involving Colorado police and a 73 year old woman.
All right, so the arrest in question happened on June 26th.
After Walmart employees called to report that a woman
by the name of Karen Garner had walked out
of the store without paying for about $13 worth of items.
But Garner's family says that she has dementia
and sensory aphasia which impairs her ability
to communicate and understand.
And so they believe that she just
forgot to pay for the items,
which employees made her leave at the store
and refused to let her pay for.
Body cam footage also shows officer's spotting Garner
as she's walking home on a nearby road
but doesn't appear to understand what's going on
and tries to keep walking.
And we see within 30 seconds of making contact
a responding officer brought her
to the ground.
Officers aggressively handcuff her,
force her into a police cruiser,
and allegedly used a hobble
to restrain her feet at one point.
And while doing all of this
they reportedly fractured her arm,
dislocated her shoulder, and left her with other bruises.
During the arrest, you even see witnesses stopping to ask
if police had to be so aggressive with her.
- [Citizen] Do you have to use that much aggression?
- [Officer] What are you doing? Get outta here.
- While this happened last year,
all of this body cam footage
just came out earlier this month
after Garner's family filed a federal suit
for excessive force and violations
of the Americans with Disabilities Act.
And in the suit
they claim that four police officers involved
knew that she was injured but failed
to take her to the hospital, call her family,
or call for mental health professionals
after clearly using strong force
against someone who might be mentally ill.
And instead they left her handcuffed in a jail cell
for six hours as she cried out in pain.
So with all of this, according to Garner's attorney,
the DA's office quickly dropped all the charges against her
once learning what had happened.
After the footage came out,
the Loveland police department said
that the arresting officer,
Austin Hopp, was placed on administrative leave
with the second officer seen in the video,
Daria Jalali, reassigned to administrative duties
while authorities investigate the incident.
And you've got the eighth judicial district attorney
saying last week that he's going to investigate
whether the officers broke any criminal laws.
But the story also doesn't end there because yesterday
new footage was released by Garner's lawyer.
The video is showing officers carrying her into a cell
where they reportedly handcuffed her to a bench.
They then move over to computers nearby,
where they laugh as they rehash what happened.
They even watched the body cam footage
back with the arresting officer saying "ready for the pop?"
and acknowledging that he thought that it came
from her shoulder.
Plus we also saw this exchange as they watch the arrest.
- As of the recording of this video,
the department has not made a statement on this new footage
but if you want some advice the proper response will be
wow, that's fucked.
And then as far as what's happening with Garner,
where is she?
Her laywers say that since the arrest,
she barely communicates now and was left suffering
more anxiety and worse dementia symptoms.
Yeah, ultimately that is where we are right now.
We're going to have to wait to see what happens.
If there's any more information,
if anyone will actually be held accountable.
And then we should definitely talk about the US census
because the US Census Bureau released the totals
of the 2020 count yesterday.
You know, this is very big news
because this will determine how congressional seats,
electoral votes, and billions of dollars
in federal funding are allocated for the next decade.
So, all in all, seven districts in total will be moved
from one state to another based on population changes,
starting with the gainers.
We saw at Colorado, Florida, Montana, North Carolina
and Oregon, each getting one seat
while Texas took the grand prize of two.
And as for the seven States that lost seats you had
California, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania
and West Virginia.
You know, with this there are
a few main overarching takeaways.
So let's try and break that down.
First up, these new numbers shows
that US population growth has slowed drastically.
Over the last 10 years
the US population has grown at the second lowest rates
since the census count began back in 1790.
A fact that experts say was driven
by a slowdown in immigration and declining birth rates
but at the same time, those new numbers support trends
that we are already seeing.
Right, for instance, since the 1940s
New York has steadily lost seats
while Florida has steadily gained them
until they each held 27 after the 2010 census.
But now Florida is actually officially surpassed
New York to claim the third, most congressional seats
and electoral votes after California and Texas.
And this is one of the craziest things to me,
Census Bureau officials actually said that of just
89 more people had been counted in New York
the state would have not lost the seat.
That's how close it was.
Also, in addition to keeping with expected trends
there were also a number of surprises.
Demographers had widely expected Arizona to gain a seat
which it did not as well as Rhode Island to lose a seat
which it kept.
Also while yes, Florida and Texas did gain seats,
they were actually expected to gain more than they did.
And here's the thing.
Well, gaining a seat here, losing a seat there,
it's very minimal.
One of the biggest opportunities that comes
after a census is redrawing district lines.
And this is especially true for Republican led States.
So for example while several Democratic states have created
independent nonpartisan commissions to draw district lines
five of the new seven allocated districts are going
to states where the GOP completely controls redistricting
which will very likely help Republicans draw house maps
for 2022 that could increase their chances to win
back the five seats they need to regain the majority
but also understand both the redistricting process
and the allocation of federal funds can not be completed
until the census data about race, ethnicity, age
and sex is released.
So all of this isn't happening immediately.
You have the Bureau saying they won't publish
that information until August.
This, largely because the whole census is behind schedule.
It's one of the most embattled census counts in decades.
In addition to it happening at a time of a historic pandemic
the agency also faced unprecedented jerking around
from the Trump administration.
It's also happening while the accuracy
of the demographic data has been called into question
by some due to concerns about how certain historically
under counted groups were counted,
especially with the lack of door knockers
during this pandemic and the shortened timeline.
Then, I mean, of course there is the possibility
of lawsuits over the numbers and the existing lawsuits
over the other aspects of the census.
And I mean, it's all just a ridiculous mess
but a ridiculous mess you should pay attention
to because I mean 2022 and 2024 are just around the corner.
I hate to say that.
And a lot of you feel like it just caught your breath
but I mean, this is, this is life right now.
And ultimately with this story and honestly anything
that stood out to you today
I'd love to know your thoughts in those comments down below,
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