- Again, you know DeeDee, you get it.
It's all right if you're Chris Caine.
You gotta get up there, and you get what (laughter)
I'm thinking what view do people have of me?
(laughter)
- I understand, but you know I just say that to you...
- But you appear fearless.
- But you appear...
(all talking at once)
- But it's just because I make a decision
like everyone has to to make God bigger than the
what ifs.
I have to, I get through the what if this...
I remember when we started A21, and a few pastors of
mega ministries, sort of behind the scenes would
- who?
come and
(laughter)
you know, don't pay out on us pastor
(laughter)
- That's how, that's how you say it and
that's how its done.
(laughter)
- That is crazy, That's crazy.
- But you know, would say to me,
Christine, why you doing something like this,
why you jeopardizing your ministry?
Because if you start speaking out, you know for
issues of justice or sex trafficking
you're going to, people aren't gonna invite you,
you just should stick to the Gospel,
as if it's separate.
- Yeah right.
- By I mean, part of my assignment was to help
people see that justice is part of the Gospel.
That you don't compromise your Christian witness
and it's part of your Christian witness, but
you know, you'd be surprised behind the scene,
especially, some of us that are taking ground
in certain areas, whether it's to help empower woman
or to help bring justice or evangelism.
Evangelism is not very trendy in the 21st century.
It's very, people are like whoa,
why don't you just keep your opinion to yourself.
- That's right.
- Everybody's okay.
- That's right.
- That's very divisive, you know.
So most of what I'm called to do is like,
I'm sort of like 10 years ahead.
And I'm out there pioneering so, is it.
And for someone like me, if I'm not conscious,
that was left abandoned in a hospital,
that was abused, you know, the issue of rejection
is very, I mean,
if I am not, you know I preach this thing with
such passion, because it's true for me.
Every second it's like I need this for me everyday.
- Right.
- It's like, you all don't have to get in the Bible
if you do not want to.
It's not a religious book to me.
It is my life.
- (Right)
- (That's right)
- And so, I have to do that... I have to
make what God says, what God promises in His Word
bigger than, well Christine what if
they don't like you?
What if they don't understand you?
What if this fails?
- (yeah)
- What if this doesn't work?
- (yeah)
- What if this... and so, what we often do is
we make out what ifs bigger than God.
- (yeah)
- But I think, all of us whether you have
a perceived big public life like I do,
or you're a stay at home mother homeschooling
10 kids, you are stuck in that.
A lot of women that I've met even in home that
what if I let my kid go out and this happens.
And what if I do...it's the same what if
- Right, right.
- Its just different things of the same thing.
And I think in order to do what God
has called us to do, you have to make what you know
about God bigger than what you don't know
about the future.
- Yeah
- And so none of us really know
how anything is gonna come out in the future
but what we do know is that God is good.
- Yes
- And God does good.
God will work all things together for good
- That's right
I tell my daughters this all the time is
I can't guarantee you every outcome
because humanity's fallen, we live in a
fallen world
- (right)
- I know how God's eternal promises, but it's
sort of that dichotomy we're already not here,
we're not there yet.
But I can promise you that your God is
always faithful.
I can promise you, that God is like, in Him
there is no darkness, He has no dark side.
He has no dark side.
So, I think if you can make what you know about Him
bigger than anything you fear about the future or
your inadequacies or your own limitations
then you go and do whatever you need to do.
Whether it's Deborah, whether it's Jael,
whether its us today, whether its fighting for
your marriage, whether its keeping yourself in a
the world in which we live to be a single woman
with a strong biblical sexual ethics it is a challenge.
- Amen
Christine Caine : It's not easy to do that nowadays.
(laughter)
Christine Caine : Lisa it's a challenge to do that stuff.
- [Laurie] Big amen over here
- We do do so much counsel.
I'm not paying out single...
- Don't make out...
Christine Caine : I'm not paying out single people
(laughter)
- But the point is to do anything
to stay faithful to Jesus in a world that is hostile.
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