[APPLAUDING]
Recently, my friend Demi Lovato invited me over to catch up.
Here is a look at our conversation.
Hi honey bunny.
Hi, how are you?
I'm good.
Oh, so good to see you.
Beautiful.
So do you.
You look so good.
I know I was like glam from pandemic.
Glam glam glam.
There's just been so much going on.
It's been like a whirlwind.
How are you feeling in the midst of it all.
Sharing everything with everyone.
You know it's this delicate balance.
Of how much do I share and how much do I not.
And it's just figuring out where those boundaries
are that's been a little challenging.
But I know that ultimately.
Like it's really important to me to be
as transparent as possible.
I just have to remind myself to shut up sometimes
because I am such an open book that I
will keep going and going.
I think you've done more work than anybody your age.
For sure, for sure.
But it's been very empowering and liberating.
To just fully own my truth and say, this is who I am.
This is what works for me.
And if you don't like it, that's OK.
I'm not asking for you to.
And talking about people who don't always agree with you,
there's been a lot of buzz about what you said
about being California sober.
This term is something that like I personally
identified with on this journey of finding a middle ground.
I've dealt with so much struggles
when it comes to addiction.
Whether it's food, whether it's substances.
And this all or nothing state of mind
of like good versus bad foods.
I can't.
If I don't apply that with my eating disorder recovery, why
is that going to work with anything else.
I think for a while there you were
thinking that you weren't going to make any more music.
Or that we thought you weren't going
to be making any more music.
And I'm so glad that you have been making some more music.
Now you're talking about dancing with the devil.
And how this has been your baby that's turned into a teenager.
I loved that quote in the documentary.
Thanks.
Well, you know all my other albums
I felt like I was trying to chase the hits.
And I feel like that's why maybe it didn't work.
Sorry.
It worked to a certain degree but like--
I'm sorry.
I know I'm doing it off-tone.
But that was a hit and we loved it.
And Yes.
And that was me to a certain degree.
But it was me with the feminine facade
of like playing the role of the sexy pop star.
I see.
I just don't identify with that.
You're also talking about how you
are exploring your queerness.
Yes.
And I'm so curious like how has that
brought you joy and revelation in your life.
I noticed that a behavior of mine
was jumping into relationships with men.
I've been there.
Totally, who hasn't?
And sometimes a relationship to other people.
And especially to me it looked like stability.
But that's not always the answer.
And I found that...
I actually found stability more on my own.
Honestly I'm not looking for a relationship or something.
I got needs.
My needs need to be met at some point.
That's going to happen.
And I'm excited for that.
That'll be fun.
But in the meantime, I'm chilling.
OK.
I feel you.
Something that we had really connected on that
changed my perspective.
A big time.
It was when you said body acceptance
over body confidence.
And body positivity.
That's so cool that it impacted you so much.
In a big way Demi.
Like a really big way.
And I tell everybody about it.
I'm like no Demi Lovato told me.
I just got chills.
No.
I'm serious.
Because when you said body acceptance versus body
positivity, it really hit me.
Because why do you need to lie to yourself.
You don't.
My weight has been up and down.
And it's going to probably be up and down.
And I'm OK with that.
I'm happy with that.
We need some more curvy queens up in here.
We just can't be out here by ourselves.
Like me and Demi where you all at.
There is so many beautiful curvy girls.
I feel like these last five years it's just blossomed
and like we see so many.
And I want to recognize and make sure
that you recognize that you are a spearhead of that.
You have been a trailblazer.
That's why I was like, oh my gosh it's
so cool that something I said impacted you
because I look up to you so much with that stuff.
Thank you.
OK.
We have to go do something fun outside.
OK OK let's go.
I am really excited for you because you have
this whole new-found freedom.
And your birthdays.
And I really want you to be able to have
these therapeutic moments in life.
And I saw how you were eating three cakes for your birthday.
But I also felt like you need to smash some watermelon.
I did and I do and I'm ready.
OK.
Do you want to count.
You should count.
Should I count backwards or forwards.
It's your watermelon therapy 3, 2, 1.
Wow!
Oh my God.
Thank you so much.
Oh my God.
I loved this.
I am so going to do this again.
Demi Lavato everyone.
You can watch Demi's docuseries, Dancing with the Devil
on YouTube.
And we will be right back.