Hi everybody my name is Simon this video is going to be about visas and it applies to
people who are currently or in the future
wanting to make a visa in Thailand to take a Thai partner back to their own
country as the foreigner so it could be back to Australia USA UK Europe
wherever so if your not into that no problem thanks for popping in anyway I'm
going to play devil's advocates on this video and the reason I'm doing this
video several reasons lots and lots of subscribers have been asking me visa
questions loads of them are to do with the first tourist visa it is well known
that taking a Thai person partner let's refer to it as if it's a girl but it
could be a boy it could be a ladyboy but let's let's say it's a foreigner taking
a girl back to his own country the path would be a tourist visa first further
down the line settlement is the relationship carries on marriage
settlements in the in their country the remain to stay and then on to passport
possibly now I have done loads of visas with my wife okay there were 15
years ago but since then I've helped friends do visas given advice on visas
to other friends and I've seen a lot of refusal letters I've seen a lot of good
stories but I've also kept up-to-date with the embassies and the laws and I've
even got friends or had friends that were in the visa agency
not anymore so many highs and lows with the visas and the applications and how
it works so I thought I'd do this video as devil's advocate to try and
show you what to do what to look for and the main thing is presenting the correct
information through whether it's in my case UK VFS is the agency who check with
the paperwork then pass it on to the British Embassy for a clearance officer
to go through and make a decision I'm not sure if this applies to American
Europe Australia you might go direct to the embassies but it's still the same
principles the biggest problem people make the biggest mistake people make is
they don't present enough information on their first application for a tourist
visa they don't understand what's the other side of the window behind the
embassy walls what they're looking for they don't read the website properly tip
number one whichever embassy it is so let's talk to UK embassy they've got a website
they have all the requirements for tourist visa every detail you need is there in black
and white and the application forms are there make sure you get the right
application for the one you're making it will be confusing but it's there and it
tells you on all the websites for all the embassies exactly what criteria you
need to fulfill to make your application it even gives you clues of what the
embassy is looking for now in 2017 all around the world countries are
tightening up on the immigration rules for people visiting that country for
whatever visa is getting a lot harder so it makes your job even
more important you get it right if you do a tourist visa whichever visa it and
you don't put it incorrectly and you fail it goes against you as a black mark
also if you turn up in to Thailand you fall in love with a let's say a girl
you've gone to Pattaya you've met a girl a few weeks down the line you're not going
to get a tourist visa you might go to go to a tourist visa agency and they'll
tell you yes you'll get it you pay loads of money and he gets turned down there's
not enough evidence and proof so devils advocate let's imagine you have a
Thai partner and you've got your application and you've gone to the
embassy so I'm British a lot up again UK embassy
I'm the clearance officer I'm in an office I work Monday to Friday
some days I'm grumpy some days I'm tired good and bad mood I arrived to work on
my desk is 50 applications of inch-thick applications half of them maybe for a
tourist visa maybe some other students long-term visas but that's talking the
Tourist visa all of the embassies they'd like you to take the path you do the
tourist first then the settlement then you get married and so forth follow that
route that's the sitemap they're looking for so I've arrived at work I'm a
clearance officer there's the applications there's nobody
else in my office let's pretend I've got a computer in front of me and I've got
three screens I push all the piles to one side and I get my first application plonk
it down and the application is a standard form I see every day as a
clearance officer I have got to make a picture I've got to build a story of
this couple let's say it's a an English guy and a Thai girl I've got to build
the picture to see whether I'm going to give them permission for the Thai girl
to go to that country on holiday
three screens because I'm working for the government I more than likely have
access credits agencies so these are companies that can tell me all the
information on the foreigners credit cards his creditworthiness whether he's
got mortgage whether he's outstanding debt whether he's been bankrupt this
probably applies for every country all that information would be available I
imagine it's going to be available to the clearance officer criminal record
checks ever been in trouble with the police never had any problems in life so
application this is mr. Fred Bloggs I type in bring
up his life story there there's his credit reference all his information on
money there's his criminal record and I've got his details the first thing
you're going to check run through his finances on the application his name his
address that's the same yep that's fine his finances his job he's been working
there for so many years can work it out from these screens and that is yes
that's right all the way down through address family all his personal
information he's put on the page if nothing flags up great anything does flag
up there's a red flag there one red flag so photos let's get a picture of these
people what photos are there there's only one photo of a couple and it looks
like it's next to a bar that's not good or oh this 30 photos here this photos of
the couple together that's in Phuket that's in Bangkok all this is in the
village of the girl looking at the girls details
she's from isaan and she's from Khon Keon she worked part-time in a hairdressers
and also helps on the family business little corner shop okay and there's
pictures of the foreigner with the girl outside the shop outside the hairdressers
around khon kaen there's a video evidence there there's pictures the foreigner
has been all around Thailand whether that's good that's a good
picture as opposed to one picture outside a bar not good picture
checking the girls details again there's information police records on the ID
card numbers punch it in any problems no check all the addresses it all ties up
good finances Thai girls many Thai girls don't bother with bank accounts they get
paid in cash they spent cash if you're going to get a
say a Thai girl partner for a visa first thing you do is get passport a Thai
passport for them next thing bank account put a bit of money in there
couple of thousand baht shows they've got a bank account if they've already got a
bank account fantastic and if they've been put in a little bit of photo right
maybe 500 by a month in that bank can't savings that looks really good
all that stuff checks out excellent or there's no bank there's no
records of money there's no proof of where she's working there's no photos
there's no letters from her employer saying that she agrees for her to go on
holiday bit sad or letters from the mum and dad saying her child they're going
to take care of the child while she's away if she's got a kid any letters from
anyone corroborating his evidence if the girls come from a bar scene there's no
records and nothing red flag that red flag will be an interview for the girl
boom the clearing officer his main job he doesn't want a tie say a Thai girl
from a bar scene if one picture he thinks he works in the bar she could
sell her body in your country he needs evidence that the Thai person will go
for the holiday for the three six months to your country and will come back if
there's no evidence tying them to Thailand they don't own any land they've
got no kids they've got no job there's no reason for them to come back they
could skip the visa disappear off into your country it has to be a reason some
sort of proof that they are going to come back to Thailand
very important so emails between the two of you even if it's only been for a few
months then there's got to be a you've got to put a letter on there a story how
you met when you met and every date on your application must tie up with
everything you write and put in photos is there any dates on the photos be
careful whatever you do do not put any false declarations in on a visa process
do not lie under any circumstances keep it real and honest if you get caught
lying or just try to deceive the embassies it's serious you will never
get a visa ever for anyone you could get in trouble with authority photos of your
home back in your country photos your family maybe any photos it all adds up
and that finances to support the trip if you haven't got the finances it's not a
look good but if you've got credit cards with money available put all that
you need all your financial paperwork as the foreigner copies of it all every
piece of paper you put into your visa application get it translated to Thai
and English make sure there's enough copies there there will be Thai people
in the clearance with a clearance officer going through this paperwork
with it
as a set of letters any letters by your from your family we're looking forward
to seeing your girlfriend come over at meeting her and you know we may be planning
some days out next thing is coaching your Thai partner get a translator
somebody from Thailand who speaks your language sit the Thai girl down go
through all the application coach her your family name the town you're going to
the tourist spots you're going to visit in your country with her drill it down
and coach the more time you spend if she has an interview it will get you through
that process the clearance officer will try whether it's on the phone interview
or face to face they will try some trick questions try and trip you up they're
looking to see if it's a real application you've got to prove this
application is real not them having to prove it they can fail this immediately
until you prove it's all legit where you met it's really important and dates as
well if you have been back to your country before making this application go
and buy some Thai food and a rice cooker and things can get receipts and photos
it's sure an a coat it's cold in your country maybe you show on some papers
and receipts you're making preparation for the arrival of your Thai partner
that's fantastic I made that mistake I didn't buy the wife a coat or Thai food
but do that if you can get receipts it's brilliant
as a clearance officer he's got all this information on the computers available
to him or her all about you all about the Thai person if there's nothing there
that he can find fault with it will just give you the visa there and then he or
she Bang done if there's any red flags any holes in your story that's what
they're looking for is holes is this Thai person going to come back to
Thailand if there's any doubt they'll red flag it that means you will
be called in or the Thai person would be called in for an interview now if you're
back in your own country and the Thai person is going on their own you've got a coach
them so they know exactly what's going to happen and how to handle it you're
not doing anything wrong here you're just preparing your visa application
properly putting everything together if you cross all the t's be meticulous
if they ask you for nine pieces of paper put 12 it they ask you for three photos
put six in put more in the more you pad it the more information you give it
shows you're willing and honest and offering the whole story
once you built this paperwork together and present it and got your visa that
paperwork will then go on again when you come to the settlement make sure you've
got copy of all of it for yourself because when you get to the next visa
they've got a copy of all that and if you start talking different stories and
don't get it right something doesn't add up
you'd be straight out use that first visa application information and build
on it for your settlement the clearance officers in every embassy in Thailand
has to prove to themselves that this is a legitimate case for a tourist visa for
any visa if they have a doubt that the Thai persons is not going to come back
they really are going to red flag it and they'll try everything on those
interviews to trip the Thai person up Oh only have to trip them up once and the visa
it's easy for them just to say no and that guy he's gone there on a Monday
morning the clearance officer or girl there's 50 applications how many of
those are going to get a yes I don't know maybe you can guess but there's a
lot there if they put 50 through every day and said yes and there's more than
one clearance officer in these embassies that's a lot of people going into your
country a lot of those are going to fail and if there's obvious ones the one
there it's bar pictures it's a bar girl only known each other for three months
passport or the foreigner how many times has he been to Thailand so its first
visit hang on he's met this girl six months ago maybe
it's a dating agency how did you meet in a cafe hang on you've only been here for
one holiday fail Bang it's immediate lie the easier and say no off you go anyway
that's me trying to be devil's advocate try and put yourself if you're making a
visa application into the person in the embassy what are they looking for try
and put yourself portrayed into their mind and look at your application get
your friends or complete stranger maybe please look at this application what do
you think fresh pair of eyes it might spot something immediately that you
missed it's cost you a lot of money to get the visas if you do it correctly
follow the path from the website all the instructions are there eventually you'll
get to the dream any questions by all means in the comments below or you can
email like LandofsmilesThailand@ gmail.com I will happily try and answer them
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can thanks for watching been a rant I'm
sorry but trying to help you guys if this helps one person with their
application I've succeeded I'll see you on my next video thanks bye bye